What is Tocchs system? Play hard and pursue the puck?
- Phillywhiteout

I don't watch Vancouver, as I can't stand the fanbase, so to be honest, I don't know what system they play. They look to be a high offense team. The local radio stations, and friends here are raving about their play, and the results show in the standings. They are a completely differnt team to BB last year before Tocchet took over. So whatever they are doing, it is working.

Well I said ND should sit, 523 of TOI is like sitting.

It could be here, Flyers look slower, lose a game, 2nd game of BTB and 3rd in 4 nights, then a break. Their first challenge to their season

I saw the ticker last night. I have yet to watch the highlights, which I fully intend to.
- roenick97

provide us all a summary.

yep. Guess Danny missed the sell high on line class at wharton
- hello it's me 2050

Good morning all...

For all those calling for Trots to be named Coach of the year, Tocchet has Vancouver in first place in the league.

Vancouver has been playing even better than Philly, and their players have totally bought into Tocchets system.Multiple players in the top 50 in the league for points, and their goalie has been just as good as Hart and Ersson.

Just saying.
- TheFreak

Yup, Tocchet and Jim Montgomery are my front runners right now. To lose both Bergeron and Krejci and still be in 1st is pretty impressive.

Good morning all...

For all those calling for Trots to be named Coach of the year, Tocchet has Vancouver in first place in the league.

Vancouver has been playing even better than Philly, and their players have totally bought into Tocchets system.Multiple players in the top 50 in the league for points, and their goalie has been just as good as Hart and Ersson.

Just saying.
-TheFreak

Who is playing defense for the Flyers that is even close to Quinn Hughes? Which Flyers' forward is in the same league as Elias Pettersson or JT Miller?

So Tocchet has a team with three superstars, who are all in the top 10 in scoring in the league, in first place and playing well. Insert finger in cheek and popping sound here!

The Jack Adams Award is awarded annually to the National Hockey League (NHL) coach "adjudged to have contributed the most to his team's success." Which coach has contributed more to the success of their respective teams? It's not even close!

I consider Konency a surprise since last season. Meaning I include last season. I don’t think we’ve seen him play to this level as “the guy” when G and Jake were here.

You can probably compare the rookie development of Foerster to a young Sean Couturier. We know Coots was great positionally and defending but the offense came a little later.
- roenick97

Surprise to you, he had a 60 point season with G and Coots where he looked like a first line winger. Most folks thought he was capable of this.

I don't watch Vancouver, as I can't stand the fanbase, so to be honest, I don't know what system they play. They look to be a high offense team. The local radio stations, and friends here are raving about their play, and the results show in the standings. They are a completely differnt team to BB last year before Tocchet took over. So whatever they are doing, it is working.
- TheFreak

Vancouver had some underperforming offensive talent there. They have top end skill guys that the Flyers don't have (Boeser, Petterson and Miller). They have Quinn Hughes on defense. Their high end guys are much higher than the Flyers high end guys. I'm not a big fan of Tocchet, so we shall see if this lasts.

Who is playing defense for the Flyers that is even close to Quinn Hughes? Which Flyers' forward is in the same league as Elias Pettersson or JT Miller?

So Tocchet has a team with three superstars, who are all in the top 10 in scoring in the league, in first place and playing well. Insert finger in cheek and popping sound here!

The Jack Adams Award is awarded annually to the National Hockey League (NHL) coach "adjudged to have contributed the most to his team's success." Which coach has contributed more to the success of their respective teams? It's not even close!
- jd250

wonder of torts would rather win the jack adams or a stanley cup with the flyers....

did those guys play like top end players under BB?

Who is playing defense for the Flyers that is even close to Quinn Hughes? Which Flyers' forward is in the same league as Elias Pettersson or JT Miller?

So Tocchet has a team with three superstars, who are all in the top 10 in scoring in the league, in first place and playing well. Insert finger in cheek and popping sound here!

The Jack Adams Award is awarded annually to the National Hockey League (NHL) coach "adjudged to have contributed the most to his team's success." Which coach has contributed more to the success of their respective teams? It's not even close!
- jd250

You do realize Vancouver was supposed to be a bottom 10 team? No chance of the playoffs and their superstar Petterson unwilling to commit to a contract as he is sick of losing and wanted to see how the season played out before committing to a contract. BB couldn't get them to play like this. Getting the most out of his best players is on the coach, no? You have said just that when referencing Torts, so how is this different?

The Canucks have had Petterson, Hughes, Boesser and Miller for a couple of years at least, and they have never performed like this. As good as Torts has been with Philly, not my opinion in the bigger picture, but we'll go with that for the arguements sake, Tocchet has been even better without being a prlck to his young players.

You do realize Vancouver was supposed to be a bottom 10 team? No chance of the playoffs and their superstar Petterson unwilling to commit to a contract as he is sick of losing and wanted to see how the season played out before committing to a contract. BB couldn't get them to play like this. Getting the most out of his best players is on the coach, no? You have said just that when referencing Torts, so how is this different?

The Canucks have had Petterson, Hughes, Boesser and Miller for a couple of years at least, and they have never performed like this. As good as Torts has been with Philly, not my opinion in the bigger picture, but we'll go with that for the arguements sake, Tocchet has been even better without being a prlck to his young players.
- TheFreak

While I’m not discrediting the job Toch has done, Vancouver has finally put it together and they’ve gotten goaltending, that’s the biggest part. All those young guys have figured it out. They’ve also had really good underlying metrics the past two years, just not winning games. I could see Ottawa doing something similar next year or the one after .

While I’m not discrediting the job Toch has done, Vancouver has finally put it together and they’ve gotten goaltending, that’s the biggest part. All those young guys have figured it out. They’ve also had really good underlying metrics the past two years, just not winning games. I could see Ottawa doing something similar next year or the one after .
- ClaudeFather

Re goaltending, you could say the same about the Flyers. I don’t give Torts any credit for Hart playing extremely well when healthy or Ersson being unbeatable in shootouts.

While Torts does have them playing a little better than last season, replace this season’s goaltending with last season’s and take away Couturier and the Flyers are at the bottom of the Metro. Honestly, I think Torts gets too much credit and the return of Couts along with good goaltending, not enough.

You do realize Vancouver was supposed to be a bottom 10 team? No chance of the playoffs and their superstar Petterson unwilling to commit to a contract as he is sick of losing and wanted to see how the season played out before committing to a contract. BB couldn't get them to play like this. Getting the most out of his best players is on the coach, no? You have said just that when referencing Torts, so how is this different?

The Canucks have had Petterson, Hughes, Boesser and Miller for a couple of years at least, and they have never performed like this. As good as Torts has been with Philly, not my opinion in the bigger picture, but we'll go with that for the arguements sake, Tocchet has been even better without being a prlck to his young players.
- TheFreak

Saw Vancouver last night in Dallas and they are a very fast, opportunistic team. Stars seemed to handle them with possession and shots, but Van capitalized when they had their chances except for not converting a 2-0 in OT which went the other way for the GWG. Matt Duchene has been a gift for Dallas this year.

Re goaltending, you could say the same about the Flyers. I don’t give Torts any credit for Hart playing extremely well when healthy or Ersson being unbeatable in shootouts.

While Torts does have them playing a little better than last season, replace this season’s goaltending with last season’s and take away Couturier and the Flyers are at the bottom of the Metro. Honestly, I think Torts gets too much credit and the return of Couts along with good goaltending, not enough.
- BiggE

I agree to a certain extent. I think Torts deserve a little credit for the team playing the way they are. But, I believe the results are different because of Coots and goaltending. So, I agree that he shouldn't get all the credit and the Jack Adams talk is in jest.

Re goaltending, you could say the same about the Flyers. I don’t give Torts any credit for Hart playing extremely well when healthy or Ersson being unbeatable in shootouts.

While Torts does have them playing a little better than last season, replace this season’s goaltending with last season’s and take away Couturier and the Flyers are at the bottom of the Metro. Honestly, I think Torts gets too much credit and the return of Couts along with good goaltending, not enough.
- BiggE

Maybe someday Sean Couturier will get the respect he deserves from a certain portion of the fanbase. The kind of respect he gets from the rest of the league. Imagine if he was 100%. The guy is just a fantastic all around hockey player.

I agree to a certain extent. I think Torts deserve a little credit for the team playing the way they are. But, I believe the results are different because of Coots and goaltending. So, I agree that he shouldn't get all the credit and the Jack Adams talk is in jest.
- cdearth23

The team has played much better than last season and that can't all be credited to just Coots. Their play has fallen off as of late and the goaltending has stood tall, but this isn't last year with the Coots addition. If the Flyers somehow make the playoffs (I still don't think it's likely due to the strength of the conference) Torts will be in the top 3 for the Jack Adams.

You do realize Vancouver was supposed to be a bottom 10 team? No chance of the playoffs and their superstar Petterson unwilling to commit to a contract as he is sick of losing and wanted to see how the season played out before committing to a contract. BB couldn't get them to play like this. Getting the most out of his best players is on the coach, no? You have said just that when referencing Torts, so how is this different?

The Canucks have had Petterson, Hughes, Boesser and Miller for a couple of years at least, and they have never performed like this. As good as Torts has been with Philly, not my opinion in the bigger picture, but we'll go with that for the arguments sake, Tocchet has been even better without being a prlck to his young players.
- TheFreak

Quinn Hughes is a 5'10" defenseman that is only 24 years old, and has already had 2 monster seasons scoring wise before this season. Don't you think he is still on an upward trajectory? Yes getting the most out of the players is on the coach, but the level of players Tocchet has to work with are far above the level of player Torts has to work with, yet Torts has this Flyers' team, who were actually picked to finish in the bottom 5 of the league, in 2nd place by Christmas. I am not sure this will continue but if it does, Torts is the clear front runner, since he is doing more with much less.

Maybe someday Sean Couturier will get the respect he deserves from a certain portion of the fanbase. The kind of respect he gets from the rest of the league. Imagine if he was 100%. The guy is just a fantastic all around hockey player.
- MBFlyerfan

Absolutely!

Surprise to you, he had a 60 point season with G and Coots where he looked like a first line winger. Most folks thought he was capable of this.
- ClaudeFather

Except the last time Konency did it, he had much better support.

I didn't like the hit. But I don't think there will be a suspension.
- bmeltzer

I thought the five and game was probably sufficient. If they gave a 1-2 game suspension on top I would not complain.

I thought the five and game was probably sufficient. If they gave a 1-2 game suspension on top I would not complain.
- mickel25

He returned to the game, didn’t even miss a shift. Probably no suspension

Quinn Hughes is a 5'10" defenseman that is only 24 years old, and has already had 2 monster seasons scoring wise before this season. Don't you think he is still on an upward trajectory? Yes getting the most out of the players is on the coach, but the level of players Tocchet has to work with are far above the level of player Torts has to work with, yet Torts has this Flyers' team, who were actually picked to finish in the bottom 5 of the league, in 2nd place by Christmas. I am not sure this will continue but if it does, Torts is the clear front runner, since he is doing more with much less.
- jd250

Second in their division, 9th in the league. Vancouver also wasn't supposed to be out of the bottom 10, and they are first in the league. A bit if a difference.

Quinn Hughes has played over 300 games in the NHL...yes he is gifted, but hardly a new player. Miller had a down year last year after signing a long term huge contract. Tocchet has him back on track for 100 points. Petterson has not played at the level he is playing at this year in his career. So...Bruce Boudreau wasn't able to get Vancouver playing at this level and Vancouver was not supposed to make the playoffs. It was seen as a make or break it season....Boesser has been a disappointment for years, Petterson threatening to leave..is Miller overpaid and declining already? Tocchet has the team firing on cylinders. That is on the coach. Many expected the team to fall apart and embark on a retool.
I am not denying Torts has the Flyers playing as a team, but I don't think he is the answer to the long term success of the team. I don't support his usage of some players, making things seem personal, and his stubborness on others. I dislike his lies.

I have enjoyed the way the team is playing, but in all honesty, I don't see them making the playoffs, I feel like I am just waiting for that fall off from play, and with the talent in this division, even a 5 game losing streak could doom their playoffs.

Good morning all...

For all those calling for Trots to be named Coach of the year, Tocchet has Vancouver in first place in the league.

Vancouver has been playing even better than Philly, and their players have totally bought into Tocchets system.Multiple players in the top 50 in the league for points, and their goalie has been just as good as Hart and Ersson.

Just saying.
- TheFreak

Washington is also playing at a slightly higher level. If Vancouver keeps going, Tocchet is a lock for the Jack Adams.

He returned to the game, didn’t even miss a shift. Probably no suspension
- ClaudeFather

Agreed. Although it really should not be about the health of the player being hit. The hit either gets additional punishment or it doesn't.

Fortunately Frost was not injured on the play.

Washington is also playing at a slightly higher level. If Vancouver keeps going, Tocchet is a lock for the Jack Adams.
- MJL

Hold the phone Buster Brown. He used to play for the Flyers. So he can't coach or have any real hockey knowledge right?