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hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 8 @ 9:49 PM ET
This is complete BS!! What the heck did the Flyers do to this kid? NOTHING! If anyone should be embarrassed here, its Gauthier!
- jd250

it loks bad, to say otherwise it flat out wrong. Good for cutter using his options.

A "premier" franchise. The "gold" standard cant even retain their top pick. Embarrassing.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 8 @ 9:49 PM ET
Briere quote:


It is concerning to me that it reached the level of no communication for months...This whole situation is a bad look for the Flyers. A new low for the franchise that a prized pick does not even want to talk to the team. This crap happens to Buffalo, and Hartford...not Philly.


Regardless of how this shakes out with both Drysdale and Gauthiers careers, the Flyers should be terribly embarrassed that this has happened with a prospect.

- TheFreak


It's important not to overreact here. To me, the only one who looks bad here is Gauthier. Who is he to tell an NHL team he doesn't want to play for them? It's an honor to be drafted to play in the NHL by a team. There is absolutely no reason for the Flyers to be embarrassed here.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 8 @ 9:50 PM ET
Is this something that is going to drag on for years now?

He's no longer Flyers rights so meh. Would it really matter if he was really excited and tweeted pics of himself in Flyers pjs at college?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 8 @ 9:51 PM ET
I didn't say he transformed into one of the best in the league, but he is having a career year. Not just points, but minutes and usage.

Is this what triggers you to go full Dexter, is JD acting up?

"Technically...."


- Glak18


You call responding to hockey talk with a hockey comment being triggered? Interesting.


Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jan 8 @ 9:51 PM ET
I don’t want them going into ufa unless it’s a real stud younger player that fits the window. Otherwise draft draft draft.
- Hextall271


Right now, they only have 1 legit top 6 center. The cupboard is absolutely bare. I'm okay with them sliding down the standings, but the center position is a huge hole right now.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 8 @ 9:51 PM ET
It's important not to overreact here. To me, the only one who looks bad here is Gauthier. Who is he to tell an NHL team he doesn't want to play for them? It's an honor to be drafted to play in the NHL by a team. There is absolutely no reason for the Flyers to be embarrassed here.
- MJL

yes there is several reasons.

How does Cutter look bad? He could have easily stayed in college for 4 years then walked. He had the courtesy to tell them his intentions. Yeah looks real bad.

2024 cliff times have changed as you like to say.
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Jan 8 @ 9:51 PM ET
a few months later Torts was hired....just saying.

yep

- hello it's me 2050


I personally have no doubts that Torts was part of Gauthiers decision. no proof, nothing..just my first thought when this broke.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 8 @ 9:52 PM ET
Is this something that is going to drag on for years now?

He's no longer Flyers rights so meh. Would it really matter if he was really excited and tweeted pics of himself in Flyers pjs at college?

- Glak18

Maybe it drags on for the Ducks. Not here. The kid didn’t want to be in Philly. What else could the Flyers do?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 8 @ 9:53 PM ET
Just gonna throw this out there to stir it up....

Frost to Edmonton

for

Raphael Lavoie and Philip Broberg
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 8 @ 9:53 PM ET
I personally have no doubts that Torts was part of Gauthiers decision. no proof, nothing..just my first thought when this broke.
- TheFreak

agree. Not 100% though def a factor.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 8 @ 9:53 PM ET
Right now, they only have 1 legit top 6 center. The cupboard is absolutely bare. I'm okay with them sliding down the standings, but the center position is a huge hole right now.
- Trox88


Are there any centres going ufa that you’d target?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 8 @ 9:53 PM ET
You call responding to hockey talk with a hockey comment being triggered? Interesting.
- MJL


There you go, overthinking again.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 8 @ 9:53 PM ET
it loks bad, to say otherwise it flat out wrong. Good for cutter using his options.

A "premier" franchise. The "gold" standard cant even retain their top pick. Embarrassing.

- hello it's me 2050

Gauthier would not even tell them why and would not talk to them. He didn't even give the Flyers a chance to understand his side of the story and be able to respond. It looks bad for Gauthier alone. Briere and Jones even went to Sweden to talk with Gauthier and he refused to even take a phone call. Come on man, you can't blame this on the Flyers.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 8 @ 9:54 PM ET
I personally have no doubts that Torts was part of Gauthiers decision. no proof, nothing..just my first thought when this broke.
- TheFreak

That would be extremely short sighted with the typical shelf life of hockey coaches. Kid got bad advice whoever he got it from.
darkerens
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.24.2017

Jan 8 @ 9:55 PM ET
This kid is behaving like someone who is feeling disrespected by the franchise, so it’s either:
1. He hates Torts.
2. The organization failed to contact him after regime change
3. promised him something and didn’t follow though
Or
4. He thinks he was disrespected when the Flyers picked Michkov as he sees himself as a 1C and that affects his future earnings.

Think this is bad? Wait until Russia won’t let Michkov leave.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 8 @ 9:55 PM ET
Gauthier would not even tell them why and would not talk to them. He didn't even give the Flyers a chance to understand his side of the story and be able to respond. It looks bad for Gauthier alone. Briere and Jones even went to Sweden to talk with Gauthier and he refused to even take a phone call. Come on man, you can't blame this on the Flyers.
- jd250


Fairly or unfairly, Cutter does come out of this with a bit of a stink on him.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 8 @ 9:55 PM ET
It's important not to overreact here. To me, the only one who looks bad here is Gauthier. Who is he to tell an NHL team he doesn't want to play for them? It's an honor to be drafted to play in the NHL by a team. There is absolutely no reason for the Flyers to be embarrassed here.
- MJL

I agree with Mr. Credibility!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 8 @ 9:55 PM ET
That would be extremely short sighted with the typical shelf life of hockey coaches. Kid got bad advice whoever he got it from.
- hereticpride


I agree. Even if that is true, Tortorella isn't going to be the coach forever.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 8 @ 9:56 PM ET
I agree with Mr. Credibility!
- jd250


Your current approach is not recommended.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jan 8 @ 9:57 PM ET
yes there is several reasons.

How does Cutter look bad? He could have easily stayed in college for 4 years then walked. He had the courtesy to tell them his intentions. Yeah looks real bad.

2024 cliff times have changed as you like to say.

- hello it's me 2050


I think it looks bad for Gauthier if it is true he would not even meet
with Jones and Briere in Sweden.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 8 @ 9:59 PM ET
I think it looks bad for Gauthier if it is true he would not even meet
with Jones and Briere in Sweden.

- Trox88


No question. Completely disrespectful. Representatives of the team that drafted you travel that far and you won't even answer the phone! (frank) off.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 8 @ 9:59 PM ET
Your current approach is not recommended.
- MJL

Hey, you started it .. I got Ahsoka right here with me ready to kick your butt ... again!
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 8 @ 10:01 PM ET
Fairly or unfairly, Cutter does come out of this with a bit of a stink on him.
- Tomahawk


Once again, you put a stinky turd in his skate after he was drafted.

I really just don't see a big deal with this. Personally I would be honored by anyone who drafts me, except the Rangers, Pittsburgh, Toronto, Columbus, Arizona and Chicago, but besides them I would be thrilled.

Danny handled it if it was true and that's better than a GM who doesn't handle it until they are forced in a corner, right?
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 8 @ 10:01 PM ET
I think it looks bad for Gauthier if it is true he would not even meet
with Jones and Briere in Sweden.

- Trox88


I agree. Doesn’t show a lot of class imo. I do think they threw him under the bus a bit airing all the details but f him. He’s not mcdavid or bedard where he’s such an elite talent that he might think he can make demands like this. (Although I don’t think any player should make demands like this).
iamscore2day
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 03.23.2021

Jan 8 @ 10:02 PM ET
I agree. Even if that is true, Tortorella isn't going to be the coach forever.
- MJL


Yea, I think that is right. You have to meet with them even if you don’t want to sign with them. This board sees every wart and conjures up others but still a legit, if poorly run franchise. CG looks pretty young here.
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