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picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Jan 9 @ 8:11 PM ET
It would probably take a little more than just Othmann… but Id say its probably on a level with the Drysdale trade.

Othmann and a conditional 2nd round pick for Zegras.

- aecliptic


That’s the opposite of the drysdale trade. A prospect for a young nhler + a 2nd
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Jan 9 @ 8:24 PM ET
And zegras got hurt
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Jan 9 @ 8:27 PM ET
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C15W05Orxpk/?igsh=MXd4d2tlYzM4eXhicg==
- aecliptic

Gee thanks for that hot take from a steaming pile.
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Jan 9 @ 8:27 PM ET
And zegras got hurt
- picklerick

Did he?
t-dawg
New York Rangers
Joined: 06.24.2022

Jan 9 @ 8:29 PM ET
Isn't he kind of what we already have? Undersized and highly skilled, but not a playoff type player.

Obviously he's better than the trash that is 7/12 of our forward group, so it would be an upgrade. But the missing piece? Doubt it
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Jan 9 @ 8:30 PM ET
Did he?
- Fenrir


https://x.com/br_openice/...&t=uyemCTfXPLjxebCnYBfx6Q
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Jan 9 @ 8:30 PM ET
Gee thanks for that hot take from a steaming pile.
- Fenrir


Seriously
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Jan 9 @ 8:34 PM ET
https://x.com/br_openice/status/1744892353716912578?s=46&t=uyemCTfXPLjxebCnYBfx6Q
- picklerick

Ooh, that left knee didn't look good.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Vagabond
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jan 9 @ 8:35 PM ET
That’s the opposite of the drysdale trade. A prospect for a young nhler + a 2nd
- picklerick


Ok fine not quite the same. Cutter’s value may be equal to or higher than Drysdale. Id say the Ducks were really high on Cutter and probably wanted to get it done before a bidding war started.

Where as we know what Zegras can do offensively. Kid has serious skill, so the add-on would have to come from us.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Vagabond
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Jan 9 @ 8:37 PM ET
https://x.com/br_openice/status/1744892353716912578?s=46&t=uyemCTfXPLjxebCnYBfx6Q
- picklerick


Well... we can scrap the Zegras trade talk.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Vagabond
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jan 9 @ 8:39 PM ET
Although, as someone in the medical field who works with orthopedic physicians who have professional players as patients. This timely "injury" may not be as serious as it looks, however he will sell it, and sit until hes traded.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Jan 9 @ 8:43 PM ET
Although, as someone in the medical field who works with orthopedic physicians who have professional players as patients. This timely "injury" may not be as serious as it looks, however he will sell it, and sit until hes traded.
- aecliptic


I haven’t seen any indication he’s unhappy other than pure speculation
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Vagabond
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jan 9 @ 8:46 PM ET
I haven’t seen any indication he’s unhappy other than pure speculation
- picklerick


Of course, only time will tell. However, with Carlsson and MacTavish, they have their 1/2 of the future it seems and Zegras has now become a luxury.

The one thing about Zegras though, is hes supposedly kind of a douche.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Jan 9 @ 8:49 PM ET
Of course, only time will tell. However, with Carlsson and MacTavish, they have their 1/2 of the future it seems and Zegras has now become a luxury.

The one thing about Zegras though, is hes supposedly kind of a douche.

- aecliptic


Ain’t you the guy posting Sean Avery videos and you’re worried about douches?
t-dawg
New York Rangers
Joined: 06.24.2022

Jan 9 @ 9:07 PM ET
Ok fine not quite the same. Cutter’s value may be equal to or higher than Drysdale. Id say the Ducks were really high on Cutter and probably wanted to get it done before a bidding war started.

Where as we know what Zegras can do offensively. Kid has serious skill, so the add-on would have to come from us.

- aecliptic


There was an 18-team bidding war behind the scenes. The flyers openly thanked those gms for not leaking anything about this til a deal got done, and it also helped them maximize their return and gauthier's reputation while a deal was in the works
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Jan 9 @ 9:16 PM ET
Ain’t you the guy posting Sean Avery videos and you’re worried about douches?
- picklerick


I have heard that Zegras is a douche though.
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Jan 9 @ 9:17 PM ET
There was an 18-team bidding war behind the scenes. The flyers openly thanked those gms for not leaking anything about this til a deal got done, and it also helped them maximize their return and gauthier's reputation while a deal was in the works
- t-dawg

Oh wow.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Vagabond
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jan 9 @ 9:24 PM ET
Ain’t you the guy posting Sean Avery videos and you’re worried about douches?
- picklerick


Arent you the guy posting Tortorella's opinion on Cutter Gauthier?

Its all entertainment.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Jan 9 @ 9:28 PM ET
Arent you the guy posting Tortorella's opinion on Cutter Gauthier?

Its all entertainment.

- aecliptic


I am not he who posted that
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Jan 9 @ 10:30 PM ET
Before my time, did he pull the same nonsense?
- nyrangers9479


Are you kidding?
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jan 9 @ 10:32 PM ET
Are you kidding?
- Tonybere



Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Jan 9 @ 10:46 PM ET

- JRR1285


I was serious!!
Like, Lindros refusing the Nordiques literally changed the landscape of the league. Sending FORSBERG(!!!!) and Ricci to play with Sakic set them up to stabilize the franchise and win the Cup right after moving to Colorado.

Edit:
Checking to see if any other notable players were in that trade sent me down a bit of a rabbit hole. The Nordiques were the OG Oilers!
From 1988 to 1992 they drafted ridiculously high, but they actually succeeded within a handful of years!!
A couple misses and a couple HoFer's:

1988: Curtis Leschyshyn (third overall) and Daniel Dore (fifth overall)
1989: Mats Sundin (first overall)
1990: Owen Nolan (first overall)
1991: Eric Lindros (first overall)
1992: Todd Warriner (fourth overall)

Not one of these players was still with the team when they won the Cup in 96.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jan 9 @ 10:47 PM ET
Are you kidding?
- Tonybere

Nope, I watched occasionally back then, really started getting into it around 05/06.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jan 10 @ 1:45 AM ET
I know its sacrilege to talk about breaking up 10 16 13, but Zegras is anything but a 3rd line player. I have a very formulaic/rigid view as far as how lines are supposed to be put together. My view is that the 3rd line is a defensive line that can chip in on the scoreboard. Zegras does not play D and he is not good on faceoffs. Someone with the skill level of Zegras needs to be playing between 10 and 13 or you try him on the wing with 20 and 93. Zegras my fill a center role on paper, but he would be very misused on the 3rd line.
- aecliptic

Suppose Trocheck went to RW with Kreider and Zib? They’re like the best of friends. The line could be great. Laf and Panarin stay together. I agree it’s sacrilege to break them up. But for Zegras you could.

Kreider Zib Trocheck
Panarin Zegras Laf (oh my)
Cuylle Ruzicka/Novak? Kakko
Vesey Bonino whoever

But that top 6 is dynamite. May have to trade for Ruzicka or someone else, Novak

I thought today maybe trading Othmann is the way to go I’d do for only a handful of guys, and Zegras is one of them. Maybe they were actually showcasing Othmann to Anaheim? Thats possible. This could come out of left field like Drysdale did lol

They need to have mafia like sit down with Goodrow tho. Like it’s time let you go, help us out kind of thing. If you don’t, we whack you in the summer, or you can go live in So Cal

We could call the top 6, ZZ Top
TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

Jan 10 @ 2:15 AM ET
There was an 18-team bidding war behind the scenes. The flyers openly thanked those gms for not leaking anything about this til a deal got done, and it also helped them maximize their return and gauthier's reputation while a deal was in the works
- t-dawg


I wonder if the Rangers were one of the 18 teams, and what the demand was from the Flyers?
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