Certainly not the first but probably the highest profile. You can't deny the damage it did in terms of teams thinking twice about drafting college kids. You're not always going to get a Drysdale as a consolation prize.
- Richard_wilderness

Right! I’m not understanding the issue here. Good for Gauthier to be able to play in a vacation spot but I’m sure this wasn’t the Flyers mindset or doing him a solid. They just took the best possible return. So what’s the issue?

Certainly not the first but probably the highest profile. You can't deny the damage it did in terms of teams thinking twice about drafting college kids. You're not always going to get a Drysdale as a consolation prize.
- Richard_wilderness

Not going to affect drafting college players at all. Go look at the first round draft picks the past couple years, dominated by college hockey kids. College hockey is at its peak.

Not going to affect drafting college players at all. Go look at the first round draft picks the past couple years, dominated by college hockey kids. College hockey is at its peak.
- ClaudeFather

I tend to think what CG did (I'm not mad at him for it), will happen more going forward and it will affect the way GMs think about drafting college kids.

I think eventually the rule will be changed to make it harder for them to hold out.

I tend to think what CG did (I'm not mad at him for it), will happen more going forward and it will affect the way GMs think about drafting college kids.

I think eventually the rule will be changed to make it harder for them to hold out.
- Richard_wilderness

Im not sure they have to change it. These kids are willing to wait the 4 (or 5) years, losing all that money in the meantime, that is on them. I doubt the vast majority would take that route if given the choice.

I tend to think what CG did (I'm not mad at him for it), will happen more going forward and it will affect the way GMs think about drafting college kids.

I think eventually the rule will be changed to make it harder for them to hold out.
- Richard_wilderness

Yeah. If I’m a college kid, I certainly take note and if I get drafted by zona or a team I don’t like for weather or because I wasn’t a fan as a kid, just ghost the team until they trade you. Problem solved.

Im not sure they have to change it. These kids are willing to wait the 4 (or 5) years, losing all that money in the meantime, that is on them. I doubt the vast majority would take that route if given the choice.
- MBFlyerfan

But if they do, you get nothing.

I'm just posting this for comedic effect (I know these aren't going to be tonight's lines)




Forward Lines at Practice:

Deslauriers-Tippett-Konecny
Farabee-Frost-Atkinson
Foerster-Laughton-Hathaway
Cates-Poehling-Brink

But if they do, you get nothing.
- Richard_wilderness

Do they? Are college rules different? No compensatory picks like with O'Brien?

I tend to think what CG did (I'm not mad at him for it), will happen more going forward and it will affect the way GMs think about drafting college kids.

I think eventually the rule will be changed to make it harder for them to hold out.
- Richard_wilderness

I highly doubt it. You do know Hayes, Fox, and others have already done this right? Not the same exact scenario but there will be zero hesitation drafting college hockey players, it’s way too big of a talent pool to shy away from.

I'm just posting this for comedic effect (I know these aren't going to be tonight's lines)




Forward Lines at Practice:

Deslauriers-Tippett-Konecny
Farabee-Frost-Atkinson
Foerster-Laughton-Hathaway
Cates-Poehling-Brink
- MBFlyerfan

I saw that. Still not sure if jd and coots are back in. I hope these are the lines just to see the reaction from some in here. Haha

I highly doubt it. You do know Hayes, Fox, and others have already done this right? Not the same exact scenario but there will be zero hesitation drafting college hockey players, it’s way too big of a talent pool to shy away from.
- ClaudeFather

Oh for sure. Just wondering if we might see more do what CG did.

Do they? Are college rules different? No compensatory picks like with O'Brien?
- MBFlyerfan

I thought you got a 2nd as compensation for a first rounder.

I thought you got a 2nd as compensation for a first rounder.
- Hextall271

So did I, that is why I asked.

So did I, that is why I asked.
- MBFlyerfan

I stand corrected but getting only a 2nd for CG would be an awful hockey decision.

Signability: If a player is not drafted by age of 20, that player becomes an unrestricted free agent. A player not signed by drafted team within two years can reenter draft, assuming they are still eligible, and if they are not eligible, will become unrestricted an free agent. A team has the rights of an NCAA player until 30 days after the player leaves the college. If a player is drafted a second time, they can not reenter the draft. If a player has entered the draft twice and not been selected, they then become free agents regardless of age. A non-North American player can not be signed unless they are drafted first.

Compensatory Picks: If a team does not sign their first-round pick within two years, they will be awarded a compensatory pick in the Draft immediately following. The pick will be in the 2nd round, equal to the selection number of the unsigned player. All other teams' selections move back one spot.

There are many more factors to that than just snow/cold.
- Tomahawk

I have to believe that the majority of NHL players grew up in cold weather locations. Spent their time on ice and outdoor rinks. Media coverage and taxes/conversion rates would probably trump cold/snow. Just spitballin:-)

IF the Flyers can make the playoffs, who would make a good matchup?

Carolina?
Pittsburgh? Another 1st round rivalry battle
NY Rangers?

Would be hilarious if Toronto just missed
- Glak18

There isn't one.

The scorned girlfriends still can’t give it up. Time will heal everything fellas. Not to worry.
- StepfordSam

Except the stupidity. That is terminal.

Gauthier was good enough to have a great World Champs for USA last May, but wasn't good enough to play a dozen games for the sad sack Flyers in March and April. The stories you suckers have to tell yourselves to defend the honor of this failure of a franchise only get sillier as the Cup drought gets longer.
- Feanor

I said in a previous post, the Flyers turned it into a Richard swinging contest as any knuckle dragging organization would have..."how dare you not honor the code"

Sam starts tonight. Coots and JD game time decisions.
- MBFlyerfan

I am surprised Hart is not starting.

Not going to affect drafting college players at all. Go look at the first round draft picks the past couple years, dominated by college hockey kids. College hockey is at its peak.
- ClaudeFather

All I can say is lowly Arizona was able to sign their #3 OA pick (probably a better player than CG) and we weren't....

I'm not sure why the Flyers made this an issue. Seriously, in what universe was he not going to make this team? Even with as well as they are playing now, he would still make it. For some unknown reason, the macho Flyers turned it into a Richard measuring contest, and that is all you need to know about this world class organization. This has more Jones on it than Brier. Being a knuckle dragger (that could not fight), Jones had to scrape for everything he got....I'm guessing he is jealous.

I don't think it was Jones. It is the way the 3 of them decided to run the team. People just don't show up in the starting lineup without going through the orientation of playing the way they want, within their system. This was NEVER going to work with this kid. He doesn't want to play within a system that may curtail his creativity. He thinks he's good enough to just play, no questions asked. This is not a great situation for a coach. And we all know Torts doesn't coach that way. He has his tenets that he wants followed. There are teams that do things in a less formal manner, without as much direction given to players to play a certain way. Those teams are better for guys who just want to free wheel and do what they want. To be specific, it's about forwards playing defensively. Was Cutter going to do that ? I think we have the answer.
If there are ppl on this site who think that is not a worthwhile strategy, how come puck pursuit is used by so many coaches in the league ? Carolina has been using it quite successfully the last handful of years because of Rod B. He taught that team how to forecheck and check aggressively. But it takes a lot of work, and there are some players who don't like that style. Hayes is one of them, hence he is on STL.

anyone ever go to Cyprus for vacation?

All I can say is lowly Arizona was able to sign their #3 OA pick (probably a better player than CG) and we weren't....
- mr4tno

that is more a reflection of the player then the team. All situations are diff no?

I tend to think what CG did (I'm not mad at him for it), will happen more going forward and it will affect the way GMs think about drafting college kids.

I think eventually the rule will be changed to make it harder for them to hold out.
- Richard_wilderness

I also think now he may have opened the door for other top picks to know think about it seeing what the outcome ended up being.

What will Rizzo do?

All I can say is lowly Arizona was able to sign their #3 OA pick (probably a better player than CG) and we weren't....
- mr4tno

This means absolutely nothing