And then throw into the whole thing the NHLPA, lawyers, etc protecting the players involved, and what can and cannot be released. The legalities of naming players is huge, and then does the NHL compensate the teams who lose players to this, and how is that done? This is not the NHL teams fault, and most would be losing a valued roster player, as most of the team was first rounders or high round picks.

I thought the Flyers were easy to play against last night. They stayed with it on the offensive end and stayed in the game, but I thought they played a passive game in general. Kucherov had a smirk on his face most of the night and the only guy that touched him was TK. Hit the Russian cause it pisses him off like it does Igor of the Penwhines. That PK looked like a throwback to years gone by last night. Way too passive.
- Phillywhiteout

I think the Flyers were a little intimidated by the TB PP. They gave them too much time and space. You can get really get burned if you overplay and get too aggressive. However I'd rather get beat playing aggressively then passively. They played like they did last season that I complained so much about.

And then throw into the whole thing the NHLPA, lawyers, etc protecting the players involved, and what can and cannot be released. The legalities of naming players is huge, and then does the NHL compensate the teams who lose players to this, and how is that done? This is not the NHL teams fault, and most would be losing a valued roster player, as most of the team was first rounders or high round picks.
- TheFreak

How would they compensate the teams? If that happens, the teams are SOL.

Clearly the issue was Atkinson not getting enough ice time. 22 minutes ain't cutting it, better bump him up to 25 next time, Torts.

Does anyone know if frost has more phantom points than actual points?
- hello it's me 2050

I know Frost has 4 more actual points than Tyson, despite playing in 10 fewer actual games.

How would they compensate the teams? If that happens, the teams are SOL.
- MJL

It's why I asked if the teams would get any compensation. It would be like losing a first round pick who didn't sign. Most of the players are coming into their primes, I can't see it being oh well. If say 5 guys chosen in the first 2 rounds who are actively playing in the NHL are found to be involved, you just expect those teams to be like, ok..we lose a piece of our team for no fault of our own. There is way more to it than what you might be thinking.

I am not looking to argue with you MJL..or be belittled or called out for adding what has been discussed on TSN radio in Vancouver. I don't care if you agree, but I firmly believe those teams would want some kind of compensation for losing a high pick they have poured millions into.

I know Frost has 4 more actual points than Tyson, despite playing in 10 fewer actual games.
- Feanor

Frost has 11 points in his last 10 games.

It's why I asked if the teams would get any compensation. It would be like losing a first round pick who didn't sign. Most of the players are coming into their primes, I can't see it being oh well. If say 5 guys chosen in the first 2 rounds who are actively playing in the NHL are found to be involved, you just expect those teams to be like, ok..we lose a piece of our team for no fault of our own. There is way more to it than what you might be thinking.

I am not looking to argue with you MJL..or be belittled or called out for adding what has been discussed on TSN radio in Vancouver. I don't care if you agree, but I firmly believe those teams would want some kind of compensation for losing a high pick they have poured millions into.
- TheFreak

They won't be compensated. If it comes out that they were involved, they will be suspended and they will still count against the cap. They can then move to terminate the contract. Those teams won't have a choice. That's just the way it works. This is an open discussion board where everyone is free to give their opinion.

It's why I asked if the teams would get any compensation. It would be like losing a first round pick who didn't sign. Most of the players are coming into their primes, I can't see it being oh well. If say 5 guys chosen in the first 2 rounds who are actively playing in the NHL are found to be involved, you just expect those teams to be like, ok..we lose a piece of our team for no fault of our own. There is way more to it than what you might be thinking.

I am not looking to argue with you MJL..or be belittled or called out for adding what has been discussed on TSN radio in Vancouver. I don't care if you agree, but I firmly believe those teams would want some kind of compensation for losing a high pick they have poured millions into.
- TheFreak

Maybe allow the contracts to be voided? But honestly it’s more likely nothing like that happens and nasty suspensions are given and teams are left with a diminished asset. Two of the guys known of the 5 in deep poop aren’t even in the NHL.

Frost has 11 points in his last 10 games.
- MJL

Prediction time. Does Frost get to 50 points this year? He has 22 right now with 35 games left.

I think he will.

The investigation is complete. An independent panel investigated and gave their findings to Hockey Canada back in the fall. In their view several players were in violation of the bodies code of conduct. At that time before their more complete findings were to be made public there was an appeal made to the findings. That process was to begin a while back.
As far as the police involvement they have the report and feel that 5 of the 8 that were involved could rise to the level of criminal charges. A major problem is the female involved has moved on with her life and wants no part of this.
Until that portion is resolved or the report is changed (pending the appeals process) or released its status quo.
At this point I think it’s unfair to suggest this is what the issue is with Hart. It obviously does not look good or paint him in a positive light. But until the facts are released I’ll reserve judgement.
All I’ve ever seen with Hart is a solid young kid who has grown into a very good NHL player.
- landros 2

Thanks and agree with your last two sentences.

Let the Carter Hart conspiracies begin...

That was a tremendous feed through sticks that set up Atkinson with a gaping net to shoot at. All he had to do was lift the puck. Should've been a goal.
- MJL

Frost is once again looking like the frost from thr second half of last season BUT... with a little more snarl, lately. I like what I see from him.
He's great for an AHL NHL tweener, huh?

https://www.theglobeandma...-world-juniors-surrender/


Well looks like we're getting some traction.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-2018-hockey-canada-world-juniors-surrender/


Well looks like we're getting some traction.
- Flyerz74

Did they provide the five names in the article?

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-2018-hockey-canada-world-juniors-surrender/


Well looks like we're getting some traction.
- Flyerz74

I can’t access. Could you let us know what it says?

I can’t access. Could you let us know what it says?
- Hextall271

Sorry, it was open reading when I posted it. Looks blocked now.


No, they didn't name the players but stated the 5 players have been given a certain time to surrender to London police. Once that is done, they will provide an update to the media.

Sorry, it was open reading when I posted it. Looks blocked now.


No, they didn't name the players but stated the 5 players have been given a certain time to surrender to London police. Once that is done, they will provide an update to the media.
- Flyerz74

Holy god. This timing doesn’t look good for Hart. They must be moving forward with pressing charges although the woman doesn’t want to move forward as I understand it. Man

Very disappointing.

It's why I asked if the teams would get any compensation. It would be like losing a first round pick who didn't sign. Most of the players are coming into their primes, I can't see it being oh well. If say 5 guys chosen in the first 2 rounds who are actively playing in the NHL are found to be involved, you just expect those teams to be like, ok..we lose a piece of our team for no fault of our own. There is way more to it than what you might be thinking.

I am not looking to argue with you MJL..or be belittled or called out for adding what has been discussed on TSN radio in Vancouver. I don't care if you agree, but I firmly believe those teams would want some kind of compensation for losing a high pick they have poured millions into.
- TheFreak

Caveat Emptor

Anyone know when Briere is supposed to meet with the media this morning?

Flyers said the Dallas game was a statement game and it certainly was. Are the last few games the result of teams seeing that statement and responding accordingly?

Biggest thing to me in the COL and TB game is the Flyers lack that truly elite talent that can just take a game over. Hopefully Michkov becomes one of those types for them but where else are they going to get that player without picking on the top 10?

Trade or Free agency? How many 1C or 1D have changed teams in the last 10 years? Only ones I can think of are Eichel and Pietrangelo. And Eichel only got traded because of the surgery. So that to me isn’t really a strategy to rely on for a rebuild.

They won't be compensated. If it comes out that they were involved, they will be suspended and they will still count against the cap. They can then move to terminate the contract. Those teams won't have a choice. That's just the way it works. This is an open discussion board where everyone is free to give their opinion.
- MJL

ok, so let's have a discussion...how can you say this? There has never been anything like this before in the history of NHL player contracts.Most of the players are 25-26...I can't see teams walking away and being ok with it. If Colorado lost Makar, who was part of the team, you don't think they would want at least a token draft pick?

None of the players involved where signed yet, So they did this before signing their contracts. Does that change the contract termination? Does the NHL make an exception for this? There is just so much unknown to this whole situation.
If London Police had enough to charge 6 players due to videos and pics on phones, testimony, statements, etc, then the NHL should have enough. But can the NHL realease anything and suspend anyone involved without charges, and why haven't the charges happened?

If you, me and 6 friends gang banged a drunk woman in a hotel room, video recorded it, sent pics out, etc...would it take almost a decade for charges to be laid? Nope..it would be a couple of months at best, and we would be already part way through our sentence by now.

Some things just don't add up.

Caveat Emptor
- THE BLACK HAND

That more pertains to real estate than a pro athlete. How could the teams be prepared for this.

Do you think it would be a standard question:
"Have you ever been involved in any gangbang rape situation in a hotel with other players from a national team that hasn't been reported yet and has been swept under the rug with buyouts from a major cooperation, only to possibly see it become an issue in 10 years where we could possibly lose our investment for nothing?"

The teams would have no way of protecting themselves in this case.

Surrendering to the London, ON police.
Hart won’t be playing any time soon, if at all.

Ersson will now turn into a pumpkin. That is guaranteed.