Remember when they outshot Dallas 21-1 in the first period!?

Fun times!

That sir is very true. If they CHOOSE that. She could have also chose another path.

Interesting that she is reported to want nothing to do with this anymore isn’t it. Kinda like she moved on?
- Stayin alive

She’s a young women who probably wants to live her life with out being known for something like this. Hopefully she’s doing just that.

Let's not start dancing on Hart's grave just yet...
- Tomahawk

Exactly…let’s see what his evolvement was.

Our failed education system on display here folks.
- Tomahawk

Yes you were failed obviously. Or YOU failed.

There are different levels that need to be meet to have a criminal charge meet and prosecuted.

For example woman agrees to sex but not to certain things DURING sex. And man does those things. This isn’t rape. And won’t be charged rape in whatever degree.


It would be charged as either sexual abuse or sexual assault depending on what was done and what degree the criteria are meet.

This goes for any crime. There are levels within a crime category and different degrees still within.

Usually with the Flyers it’s always the best outcome possible. Don’t be a Debbie Downer.
- PLindbergh31

Actually he is correct. They are two distinctly different things in the eyes of the law. That doesn't lessen or diminish either, it is just a fact.
- MBFlyerfan

Facts don’t matter lol

Sooooo anything new happen recently?

Yes you were failed obviously. Or YOU failed.

There are different levels that need to be meet to have a criminal charge meet and prosecuted.

For example woman agrees to sex but not to certain things DURING sex. And man does those things. This isn’t rape. And won’t be charged rape in whatever degree.


It would be charged as either sexual abuse or sexual assault depending on what was done and what degree the criteria are meet.

This goes for any crime. There are levels within a crime category and different degrees still within.
- Stayin alive

Colloquially the umbrella of sexual assault includes rape.

Legally, it depends on the jurisdiction.

In Ontario the legal definition of SA includes rape (and what happened to the victim would be consired rape in most if not all other jurisdictions).

I don’t say this lightly but this franchise is cursed

If Errson goes down, the Flyers are screwed.

If Errson goes down, the Flyers are screwed.
- WhiskeyMan

Well, they would climb the draft board quickly, that is for sure.

If Errson goes down, the Flyers are screwed.
- WhiskeyMan

At least they have him playing at a high level. It could be worse.

Remember when they outshot Dallas 21-1 in the first period!?

Fun times!
- PLindbergh31

Ah, the good ol' days. We were debating on whether we should buy or sell at the deadline. Which team we matched up against for the first round.

She’s a young women who probably wants to live her life with out being known for something like this. Hopefully she’s doing just that.
- landros 2

I think police are supposed to take into account the victims wishes in situations like this. If she indeed wanted to move on etc, then she maybe asked that they wouldn’t be charged. It appears she may have changed her mind which is her decision. When they are charged and this goes to trial, unfortunately the lawyers will want to cross examine her etc which can be a re victimization. Regardless, the police must have a solid case here. Just shocking. I wonder who the four other players are?

Colloquially the umbrella of sexual assault includes rape.

Legally, it depends on the jurisdiction.

In Ontario the legal definition of SA includes rape (and what happened to the victim would be consired rape in most if not all other jurisdictions).
- Tomahawk

I will concede I don’t know Canadian law. I can assure in USA law sexual assault does not necessarily mean rape. And someone can be charged with 1 while not meeting criteria to be charged with the other.

Maybe Canadian law is different idk. Maybe Canada law doesn’t have that distinction. I do speak from USA law point of view. I would find it strange tho that Canada would not allow for distinction tho. As there are obvious and clear sets of circumstances involving any type of sexual assault

- landros 2

Omg. Right. Haha it’s normally the worst outcome not even imaginable. That’s part of why I expect him to be charged.

i called hart to jail long time ago

Yes 100% it is….
If “the victim” DOESNT want charges filed (she settled the matter to HER satisfaction) as SHE saw fit. That is the ONLY opinion in the matter that actually matters.

The police have no business laying charges if the victim doesn’t want it.
- Stayin alive

Yes they do if they uncovered more evidence. Cold cases are reopened all the time.

If Errson goes down, the Flyers are screwed.
- WhiskeyMan

they're already screwed this season

Torts has had this game with their foot on the gas pedal all season while teams have been for the most part coasting against us

now we're seeing what teams like colorado and tampa can do against us when they try

Fwiw.

https://www.hockeyfeed.co...ated-in-allegations-today

I will concede I don’t know Canadian law. I can assure in USA law sexual assault does not necessarily mean rape. And someone can be charged with 1 while not meeting criteria to be charged with the other.

Maybe Canadian law is different idk. Maybe Canada law doesn’t have that distinction. I do speak from USA law point of view. I would find it strange tho that Canada would not allow for distinction tho. As there are obvious and clear sets of circumstances involving any type of sexual assault
- Stayin alive

I don't even know why you and MB brought the legal angle up. Feanor was clearly using 'rape' in the colloquial sense.

And if you know what's been alleged it clearly crosses the threshold for rape. She was penetrated without consent by multiple players FOR HOURS.

I think police are supposed to take into account the victims wishes in situations like this. If she indeed wanted to move on etc, then she maybe asked that they wouldn’t be charged. It appears she may have changed her mind which is her decision. When they are charged and this goes to trial, unfortunately the lawyers will want to cross examine her etc which can be a re victimization. Regardless, the police must have a solid case here. Just shocking. I wonder who the four other players are?
- Hextall271

Yes they would take her wishes into consideration. But that does not mean she makes the final decision. It has become such a big story that I think the police have no other route to take but to lay charges and let the courts figure it out. Factor in its to do with professional athletes I never did think this would go away.

Michael McLeod and Cal Foote join the leave of absence club.

i just hope hart's contract can be terminated

Michael McLeod and Cal Foote join the leave of absence club.
- MBFlyerfan

Well. There it is. I think the other player is Alex formenton. That’s the 5