Didn’t back read, so sorry if already discussed.

Potentially extending TK & Hart, likely with long term expensive contracts, were two major tough decisions looming for the Flyers. Does Hart essentially being off the table now make it any more or less likely that they’re willing to extend TK? Do you think it will impact the teams decision at all? Does it impact your own feelings at all?

It is neither bad nor good. The poster wished he had better shot accuracy, but that is why he only cost $1.9 MM (or something slightly less on a team with better management) -- more accuracy more money.
- mr4tno

The issue is the cap spending. I don't know what the Flyers have in mind for Poehling in the future. Maybe they see him as a replacement for Laughton, if they trade him. Potentially though, if the 4th line is Hathaway/Poehling/Deslauriers, that could be a 4th line with total cap hit of over 6M. If you look at the top teams in the league. They don't spend that much for the most part on players of that caliber. Deslauriers is just a complete waste. I like Hathaway but 2.3M for him is crazy.

If the Flyers added say a prospect or pick with Travis would that also allow them to get a top end prospect or a top young player in return? Guess it would depend on what else is added.

Teams do strange things when they think they have a legit shot to win a cup.
- furio16

I think you can get a lot for just TK and if you retain, like some have suggested, you’ll get more. TK will only be 27 in March with 1 more year on his deal so he’s not just a rental.

I look at LA and DAL because they each have a few older players where their window is probably the next 2 years.

Didn’t back read, so sorry if already discussed.

Potentially extending TK & Hart, likely with long term expensive contracts, were two major tough decisions looming for the Flyers. Does Hart essentially being off the table now make it any more or less likely that they’re willing to extend TK? Do you think it will impact the teams decision at all? Does it impact your own feelings at all?
- Big_E_88

In my opinion, they were always going to extend Konecny when they can. I think if they were going to extend Hart it would've been done by now. Obviously the pending situation put any chance of that to bed.

The issue is the cap spending. I don't know what the Flyers have in mind for Poehling in the future. Maybe they see him as a replacement for Laughton, if they trade him. Potentially though, if the 4th line is Hathaway/Poehling/Deslauriers, that could be a 4th line with total cap hit of over 6M. If you look at the top teams in the league. They don't spend that much for the most part on players of that caliber. Deslauriers is just a complete waste. I like Hathaway but 2.3M for him is crazy.
- MJL

Poehling isnt as good as Laughton; despite his recent struggles.

He is a 4th line player and if playing up your not in good shape.

Poehling isnt as good as Laughton; despite his recent struggles.

He is a 4th line player and if playing up your not in good shape.
- furio16

How does 25 yrs old Poehling compare to 25 year old Laughton? Will Poehling be an adequate replacement in the next two years? Will Laughton get better with age at this point, level off, or decline? That’s likely what the front office is basing its decisions on.

How does 25 yrs old Poehling compare to 25 year old Laughton? Will Poehling be an adequate replacement in the next two years? Will Laughton get better with age at this point, level off, or decline? That’s likely what the front office is basing its decisions on.
- mikeyo27

I do not think neither one will get better. Laughton will likely decline.

That is why I would have moved both. Signing Poeling is a neutral move. Is that what they should be doing? Neutral moves?

If the Flyers added say a prospect or pick with Travis would that also allow them to get a top end prospect or a top young player in return? Guess it would depend on what else is added.

Teams do strange things when they think they have a legit shot to win a cup.
- furio16

They used to. Not so much any more. The only overpayment that I can think of is the trade that Tampa Bay did for Hagel. Even when Florida went all in and traded for Chiarot and Giroux, they knew the picks they gave up would be low (our 24 pick from them is top 10 protected), and they preserved the top of their own prospect pool.

They used to. Not so much any more. The only overpayment that I can think of is the trade that Tampa Bay did for Hagel. Even when Florida went all in and traded for Chiarot and Giroux, they knew the picks they gave up would be low (our 24 pick from them is top 10 protected), and they preserved the top of their own prospect pool.
- PT21

Toronto constantly, especially this past season. The flat cap has made it more difficult You’ll see more of it moving forward.

They used to. Not so much any more. The only overpayment that I can think of is the trade that Tampa Bay did for Hagel. Even when Florida went all in and traded for Chiarot and Giroux, they knew the picks they gave up would be low (our 24 pick from them is top 10 protected), and they preserved the top of their own prospect pool.
- PT21

Whenever top playoff teams are trading 1st round picks, they're going to be low first round picks but they're certainly not low picks. Tippett was certainly one of their top prospects.

I do not think neither one will get better. Laughton will likely decline.

That is why I would have moved both. Signing Poeling is a neutral move. Is that what they should be doing? Neutral moves?
- furio16

i agree signing this type of player isn't a "needed" move because these types of players are available - but you gotta fill out your roster eventually, I don't think he's that expensive and I think the org is just looking to take the chance on a player drafted two spots before Morgan Frost and hope they find the untapped potential.

i agree signing this type of player isn't a "needed" move because these types of players are available - but you gotta fill out your roster eventually, I don't think he's that expensive and I think the org is just looking to take the chance on a player drafted two spots before Morgan Frost and hope they find the untapped potential.
- anti-lame

Knowing the style the Flyers play. Knowing this coaching staff. What are the chances they can fojd any untapped potential?

I had no issue with the signing in the summer as I agree with your premise.

Toronto constantly, especially this past season. The flat cap has made it more difficult You’ll see more of it moving forward.
- ClaudeFather

What overpayment did the Laffs make this past season? I must have missed it...

Knowing the style the Flyers play. Knowing this coaching staff. What are the chances they can fojd any untapped potential?

I had no issue with the signing in the summer as I agree with your premise.
- furio16

ok maybe I should just hope he finds his untapped potential. I think Torts and Shaw are fine, I have had a huge problem with Rocky since the day he was announced.

What overpayment did the Laffs make this past season? I must have missed it...
- PT21

Maybe not an overpay but they went all
In, Oreilly Schenn, lafferty

What overpayment did the Laffs make this past season? I must have missed it...
- PT21

Does Bertuzzi and Reaves count?

Maybe not an overpay but they went all
In, Oreilly Schenn, lafferty
- ClaudeFather

Sure, sure. Teams will try to polish the edges,roll the die. See if those vets have some magic left. The Staals, the Perrys. (Bargain hunting roll of die)

But the team that suddenly gives you a Byfield type player for TK.
Fuggedaboutit.

TK will bring back a mid-late pick + good but not elite prospect/another mid-late pick. Similar to Giroux.

That price is pretty much baked in. There will be no desperation inflation of that price, and no bidding war

I do not think neither one will get better. Laughton will likely decline.

That is why I would have moved both. Signing Poeling is a neutral move. Is that what they should be doing? Neutral moves?
- furio16

Will?

Does Bertuzzi and Reaves count?
- Glak18

Who overpaid for those players?

Bill Meltzer: Wrap: Flyers Fall to Bruins, 6-2
- bmeltzer

Formenton charged

Spagnulo putting on a clinic

Will?
- rayc16

Yes will. That’s the smart percentage play.

Yes will. That’s the smart percentage play.
- furio16

i think he's saying he already has at this point.

is this just an off year for Laughts or is this what he is now? all i know is the org was not expecting his play to be the way it's been lately

Sure, sure. Teams will try to polish the edges,roll the die. See if those vets have some magic left. The Staals, the Perrys. (Bargain hunting roll of die)

But the team that suddenly gives you a Byfield type player for TK.
Fuggedaboutit.

TK will bring back a mid-late pick + good but not elite prospect/another mid-late pick. Similar to Giroux.

That price is pretty much baked in. There will be no desperation inflation of that price, and no bidding war
- PT21

Here is the problem. This Flyers team needs elite talent. Watching recent games against Colorado, TB and Boston clearly shows that. Clearly shows what players like McKinnon, Kucherov and Pasternak can do for a team. The Flyers can trade Konecny for a nice return but it is unlikely to be a return that nets the Flyers an elite player and a player that is a true difference maker. Maybe they get lucky with a later first round pick. That does happen but it's not reliable. The other side is what will it cost to re-sign Konecny? Should they get into an 8 year deal and a 8M or so AAV? The more I think about the more I say no. Konecny is a pretty good player but he is not a true difference maker. Can't get into that deal. Until the Flyers get that elite talent. They'll never likely be more than just a good team. Right now the hope is on Michkov.

Here is the problem. This Flyers team needs elite talent. Watching recent games against Colorado, TB and Boston clearly shows that. Clearly shows what players like McKinnon, Kucherov and Pasternak can do for a team. The Flyers can trade Konecny for a nice return but it is unlikely to be a return that nets the Flyers an elite player and a player that is a true difference maker. Maybe they get lucky with a later first round pick. That does happen but it's not reliable. The other side is what will it cost to re-sign Konecny? Should they get into an 8 year deal and a 8M or so AAV? The more I think about the more I say no. Konecny is a pretty good player but he is not a true difference maker. Can't get into that deal. Until the Flyers get that elite talent. They'll never likely be more than just a good team.
- MJL

Sad thing is you need a couple. Look at the Giroux era, running mate was Jake. Really good player but he’s not a Stamkos, Rantanen type of side kick