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Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jan 31 @ 12:17 PM ET
bottom line

if we acquire Lindholm, he's going to be 3rd line center in a conference with nowhere near the type of centers in it that he usually faces every night as a #1 center in the Western Conference

- jimbro83
lindholm could also play RW and get a cheaper center

But my plan of choice if I’m Drury would be Tarasenko and a lesser named 3C. That does the least damage to the future assets while fixing most of the issues up front and would probably allow to tinker the defense too

In general, It’s hard not to envision one of these rentals added, seems like a forgone conclusion
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Vagabond
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jan 31 @ 12:19 PM ET
lindholm could also play RW and get a cheaper center

But my plan of choice if I’m Drury would be Tarasenko and a lesser named 3C. That does the least damage to the future assets while fixing most of the issues up front and would probably allow to tinker the defense too

In general, It’s hard not to envision one of these rentals added, seems like a forgone conclusion

- Slimtj100



I have a hard time believing that the Rangers dont go after Tarasenko. They might resign him this time since they have the capability to do so now. Also gives them more time to not rush Perreault.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jan 31 @ 12:20 PM ET
I have a hard time believing that the Rangers dont go after Tarasenko. They might resign him this time since they have the capability to do so now. Also gives them more time to not rush Perreault.
- aecliptic

Yea agreed. Makes more sense then last year even
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 31 @ 12:20 PM ET
lindholm could also play RW and get a cheaper center

But my plan of choice if I’m Drury would be Tarasenko and a lesser named 3C. That does the least damage to the future assets while fixing most of the issues up front and would probably allow to tinker the defense too

In general, It’s hard not to envision one of these rentals added, seems like a forgone conclusion

- Slimtj100


in my mind the only untouchables are Cuylle, Othmann and Perreault

I think any of the other prospects and draft picks are up for grabs
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jan 31 @ 12:22 PM ET
Lindholm wouldn't have to play 21 minutes a game anymore, and neither would Trocheck. Even though this team hardly plays PP2, having Lindholm makes its far more capable since he's one of the best in the league at faceoffs.
- aecliptic

He's 2nd for forward among the flames started in the defensive zone. He's 2nd for forwards for shifts started in the offensive zone.

They aren't setting him up to fail. He just hasn't been good.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Vagabond
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jan 31 @ 12:25 PM ET
He's 2nd for forward among the flames started in the defensive zone. He's 2nd for forwards for shifts started in the offensive zone.

They aren't setting him up to fail. He just hasn't been good.

- blacksheep1


Great, fantastic, I still want him.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 31 @ 12:27 PM ET
Great, fantastic, I still want him.
- aecliptic


if he was playing great, the price would be higher
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Vagabond
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jan 31 @ 12:34 PM ET


This is how I feel about all those charts.

Im not saying they are without merit, but you cant neglect the old fashioned eye test.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 31 @ 12:36 PM ET


This is how I feel about all those charts.

Im not saying they are without merit, but you cant neglect the old fashioned eye test.

- aecliptic


the point is Lindholm wouldn't be utilized on the Rangers as he has been this year for the Flames

but he's a guy who is capable of stepping up if Mika or Trocheck were to go down
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Vagabond
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jan 31 @ 12:37 PM ET
the point is Lindholm wouldn't be utilized on the Rangers as he has been this year for the Flames

but he's a guy who is capable of stepping up if Mika or Trocheck were to go down

- jimbro83


He would also lighten he load on Mika and Trocheck.
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jan 31 @ 12:40 PM ET
Great, fantastic, I still want him.
- aecliptic

LOL. Ok so when I point facts, people are just gonna dig deeper. Internet never disappoints.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 31 @ 12:41 PM ET
He would also lighten he load on Mika and Trocheck.
- aecliptic


if the Flames were playing Johnny Brodzinski in the role they have played Elias Lindholm this season, with the same icetime, Im going to say that Brordzinki's advanced stats would be pretty terrible
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jan 31 @ 12:41 PM ET
if he was playing great, the price would be higher
- jimbro83

Price is gonna be high regardless because he's a pseudo number 1 center.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jan 31 @ 12:48 PM ET
Price is gonna be high regardless because he's a pseudo number 1 center.
- blacksheep1

My biggest issue getting Lindholm is he limits the chances of us doing more things. I think we need quantity over quality this year

For arguments sake

Tarasenko - first line
Sissons - third line
Dowd or Blackwell - fourth line
And idk…Jake Bean - D depth

As opposed to Lindholm and Taranseko and then we’re done and stuck with the depth issues still. We kind of need 3, maybe 4 guys added in

And I don’t think I gave up the farm getting that
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 31 @ 12:50 PM ET
My biggest issue getting Lindholm is he limits the chances of us doing more things. I think we need quantity over quality this year

For arguments sake

Tarasenko - first line
Sissons - third line
Dowd or Blackwell - fourth line
And idk…Jake Bean - D depth

As opposed to Lindholm and Taranseko and then we’re done and stuck with the depth issues still. We kind of need 3, maybe 4 guys added in

And I don’t think I gave up the farm getting that

- Slimtj100



Im not married to the idea of getting Lindholm, I'm just making a case why his overall play this year for Calgary doesn't concern me
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jan 31 @ 12:52 PM ET
My biggest issue getting Lindholm is he limits the chances of us doing more things. I think we need quantity over quality this year

For arguments sake

Tarasenko - first line
Sissons - third line
Dowd or Blackwell - fourth line
And idk…Jake Bean - D depth


As opposed to Lindholm and Taranseko and then we’re done and stuck with the depth issues still. We kind of need 3, maybe 4 guys added in

And I don’t think I gave up the farm getting that

- Slimtj100

I'm way more confident in this than all of the eggs in the Lindholm basket.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jan 31 @ 12:54 PM ET
Im not married to the idea of getting Lindholm, I'm just making a case why his overall play this year for Calgary doesn't concern me
- jimbro83

I don’t think they get him. I agree with you and Aec tho that he’d be a much better player here. If they could re sign him then it’s more worth it. I just don’t love the idea and haven’t for awhile
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jan 31 @ 12:55 PM ET
I'm way more confident in this than all of the eggs in the Lindholm basket.
- blacksheep1

Yea agreed. Depth is destroying us this year, lack of it I mean. TBH, kind of like the 94 TDL is what they need to do
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jan 31 @ 12:56 PM ET
Yea agreed. Depth is destroying us this year, lack of it I mean
- Slimtj100



So is below avg goal tending from Igor...But it is ok, we can ignore it.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jan 31 @ 12:57 PM ET
So is below avg goal tending from Igor...But it is ok, we can ignore it.
- Brukie

Why are you always looking for a fight? I’ve killed him relentlessly this season
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 31 @ 12:57 PM ET
So is below avg goal tending from Igor...But it is ok, we can ignore it.
- Brukie


well no chance we have a guy like Quick again after this year at 800k either


Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jan 31 @ 1:01 PM ET
well no chance we have a guy like Quick again after this year at 800k either
- jimbro83

I think he might have one more year in him.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 31 @ 1:02 PM ET
I think he might have one more year in him.
- Slimtj100


aint gonna happen at 800k again though
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Vagabond
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jan 31 @ 1:04 PM ET
So is below avg goal tending from Igor...But it is ok, we can ignore it.
- Brukie


What do you want them to do? Trade Igor?
Downeaster
Joined: 01.03.2007

Jan 31 @ 1:04 PM ET
Kakko, a 2nd overall pick, is scoring at 0.39 ppg, Glass, a 6th overall pick, is scoring at 0.40 ppg, not sure how Glass can be considered a bigger disappointment than Kakko.
- Reubenkincade


Your math and ppg assignments are a bit off.
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