Nick Rtichie 1 point in 7 games in 2015 WJC
- jimbro83

https://www.hockey-refere.../players/r/ritchni01.html

https://www.hockey-refere.../players/k/kakkoka01.html

I mean I guess Kakko is better, but woof that comparison. Gross.

Thats what the god forsaken charts try and do. Compare prospects across different leagues. Those numbers are meaningless against NCAA numbers
- picklerick

Right, but you were the person who said Gabe is off to a hotter start. If the points are meaningless, how do you consider Gabe being off to a better start than Othmann? What are you basing it off of if not for points & production?

Right, but you were the person who said Gabe is off to a hotter start. If the points are meaningless, how do you consider Gabe being off to a better start than Othmann? What are you basing it off of if not for points & production?
- NYR11

I'M BASING IT OFF THE CHARTS AND I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO SAY IT!

love,
rick

I'M BASING IT OFF THE CHARTS AND I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO SAY IT!

love,
rick
- picklerick

LOL Okay so you're basing your opinion on something you know nothing about. Got it!
Thanks Rick

Love,
Mike

LOL Okay so you're basing your opinion on something you know nothing about. Got it!
Thanks Rick

Love,
Mike
- NYR11

A) My name's not actually rick just so you know
B) What? The charts show, over time, a player's likelihood of becoming a 1) full-time NHLer and 2) star. It is not my opinion but that of the output

Here are his linemates drafted much higher than him
- picklerick

I was at the Bean Pot on Monday (BU vs BC, BU won). Besides Celebrini, Gabe was head and shoulders the best player on the ice for both teams. He was the most notable and creative player. Skating was a little all over the place and he lacked size, but he’s legit.

I was at the Bean Pot on Monday (BU vs BC, BU won). Besides Celebrini, Gabe was head and shoulders the best player on the ice for both teams. He was the most notable and creative player. Skating was a little all over the place and he lacked size, but he’s legit.
- Bean_Dip

How did Hutson look. Talk about lacking size

A) My name's not actually rick just so you know
B) What? The charts show, over time, a player's likelihood of becoming a 1) full-time NHLer and 2) star. It is not my opinion but that of the output
- picklerick

Ahh well I just called you what you called yourself... my names really Mike

I see what the chart shows me. What you said was Gabe is off to a better start than Othmann which I just don't really see and was asking for you to explain how you think that. A chart that shows the likelihood of someone becoming an NHL player / Star isnt the same as showing whether one player is further along in their development than the other when they were playing Juniors/College.

All I am saying is I want to know what determines Gabe being in a better position than Othmann if not for points/production. That is all. Not trying to argue at all, just a discussion.
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Ahh well I just called you what you called yourself... my names really Mike

I see what the chart shows me. What you said was Gabe is off to a better start than Othmann which I just don't really see and was asking for you to explain how you think that. A chart that shows the likelihood of someone becoming an NHL player / Star isnt the same as showing whether one player is further along in their development than the other when they were playing Juniors/College.

All I am saying is I want to know what determines Gabe being in a better position than Othmann if not for points/production. That is all. Not trying to argue at all, just a discussion.
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- NYR11

It kind of is if you read what the the charts are doing…. Obviously they’re not going to be perfect

Ahh well I just called you what you called yourself... my names really Mike

I see what the chart shows me. What you said was Gabe is off to a better start than Othmann which I just don't really see and was asking for you to explain how you think that. A chart that shows the likelihood of someone becoming an NHL player / Star isnt the same as showing whether one player is further along in their development than the other when they were playing Juniors/College.

All I am saying is I want to know what determines Gabe being in a better position than Othmann if not for points/production. That is all. Not trying to argue at all, just a discussion.
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- NYR11

It's also based off age and league. It's a not an apples to apples example.

It's also based off age and league. It's a not an apples to apples example.
- blacksheep1

It shows each players pre draft, draft, and draft +1-3 years

It shows each players pre draft, draft, and draft +1-3 years
- picklerick

I know that.

I know that.
- blacksheep1

So it is the same ages… that part is the only apples to a…. Nevermind lol this is 100% not worth it

How did Hutson look. Talk about lacking size
- picklerick

Good, but not in the same league as Celebrini or Perreault. One game sample size…

So it is the same ages… that part is the only apples to a…. Nevermind lol this is 100% not worth it
- picklerick

I know it's players the same Age. With Leonard, Smith and Perrreault it's easier to break down. Perrault vs Othmann is a little harder given the variables.

I know it's players the same Age. With Leonard, Smith and Perrreault it's easier to break down. Perrault vs Othmann is a little harder given the variables.
- blacksheep1

You’ve got to be (frank)ing with me at this point

I know it's players the same Age. With Leonard, Smith and Perrreault it's easier to break down. Perrault vs Othmann is a little harder given the variables.
- blacksheep1

This. Thank you Tom. There seems to be no clear answer as to why Gabe is off to a "much better start" than Othmann other than a chart that says so with no other explanation. Different leagues and players playing in them at different times, but what makes one better than the other if not for points? Genuinely curious

This. Thank you Tom. There seems to be no clear answer as to why Gabe is off to a "much better start" than Othmann other than a chart that says so with no other explanation. Different leagues and players playing in them at different times, but what makes one better than the other if not for points? Genuinely curious
- NYR11

Hockey Prospecting standardizes player scoring across the board and uses historical performances to chart how prospects will perform in the NHL. Our model removes intangible biases such as age, size, league, position and nationality. We do this by putting all players on the same playing field, based on their offensive production. Too often a player’s size, age or background is held against them. Not here.

Our model goes all the way back to 1990, with over 6,000 players in total. By comparing the offensive production of all players during that time we found a pattern, which shows how a players’ scoring production, normalized by league, along with the rate they develop, can predict which players will succeed and/or thrive at the NHL level. The history in the model also allows us to provide comparisons to existing and former players, to show you whose career a prospect might be mimicking.

Hockey Prospecting standardizes player scoring across the board and uses historical performances to chart how prospects will perform in the NHL. Our model removes intangible biases such as age, size, league, position and nationality. We do this by putting all players on the same playing field, based on their offensive production. Too often a player’s size, age or background is held against them. Not here.

Our model goes all the way back to 1990, with over 6,000 players in total. By comparing the offensive production of all players during that time we found a pattern, which shows how a players’ scoring production, normalized by league, along with the rate they develop, can predict which players will succeed and/or thrive at the NHL level. The history in the model also allows us to provide comparisons to existing and former players, to show you whose career a prospect might be mimicking.
- picklerick

Hey we're getting somewhere!! So it's basically centered around production points in the NCAA must be weighted much more than points in the O

Hey we're getting somewhere!! So it's basically centered around production points in the NCAA must be weighted much more than points in the O
- NYR11

You could’ve done what I just did and you still can! Go to the site to find out more. Or don’t. But like, why is this so difficult

I was at the Bean Pot on Monday (BU vs BC, BU won). Besides Celebrini, Gabe was head and shoulders the best player on the ice for both teams. He was the most notable and creative player. Skating was a little all over the place and he lacked size, but he’s legit.
- Bean_Dip

I saw Perrault last month and was impressed. He simply needs time to grow. I think its gonna be a 2 year wait for him to possibly make the jump to the pro game. He has the hands and the IQ, he just needs to mature his body ---- get 20+ pounds of muscle on him and welcome to the Garden!

I saw Perrault last month and was impressed. He simply needs time to grow. I think its gonna be a 2 year wait for him to possibly make the jump to the pro game. He has the hands and the IQ, he just needs to mature his body ---- get 20+ pounds of muscle on him and welcome to the Garden!
- TommyGTrain

it seems logical that he isn't ready yet and needs one more year of college at least

but, maybe not...

it seems logical that he isn't ready yet and needs one more year of college at least

but, maybe not...
- jimbro83

Who knows. Zach benson is shorter and weighs like 160lbs

dang

You could’ve done what I just did and you still can! Go to the site to find out more. Or don’t. But like, why is this so difficult
- picklerick

It was this difficult because I asked you the question and instead of pasting that immediately you decided to yell at me and say you didnt know