Bill any sense they are looking to move GH?

Any ND trade chatter? or wishful thinking?
- hello it's me 2050

I don't think they'll move Hathaway until next year (as a rental).

I don't think they'll move Hathaway until next year (as a rental).
- bmeltzer

yeah logically that makes sense. GM's always want that type figured maybe someone may overpay.

What do they do with ND long term? healthy scratch next 2+ years majority of the time?

They need to send LYCKSEL back down. He needs to play

I know they’re playing well, but their joke of a powerplay is going to cost them games. I really don’t care if Torts likes Thompson, but Briere needs to replace him immediately. Anyone would be an upgrade at this point.

I know they’re playing well, but their joke of a powerplay is going to cost them games. I really don’t care if Torts likes Thompson, but Briere needs to replace him immediately. Anyone would be an upgrade at this point.
- BiggE

agree and tells you who has the power at the nhl level.

No valid reason to keep him and the coach has failed in this aspect.

They need to send LYCKSEL back down. He needs to play
- WhiskeyMan

He's not really a prospect. Classic AHL/NHL tweener.

He's not really a prospect. Classic AHL/NHL tweener.
- bmeltzer

whats the deal with Attard/Ginning?

Same boat as Ollie? I do not see a path for either ever making the flyers top 6.

He's not really a prospect. Classic AHL/NHL tweener.
- bmeltzer

Yeah I know, but he was doing so well in the AHL. Just sucks he is sitting.

yeah logically that makes sense. GM's always want that type figured maybe someone may overpay.

What do they do with ND long term? healthy scratch next 2+ years majority of the time?
- hello it's me 2050

Cote suite.

whats the deal with Attard/Ginning?

Same boat as Ollie? I do not see a path for either ever making the flyers top 6.
- hello it's me 2050

They're on the borderline, too. Attard still has to get better defensively and Ginning still has to get better with the puck if they're take the step up to being NHL regulars.

I know they’re playing well, but their joke of a powerplay is going to cost them games. I really don’t care if Torts likes Thompson, but Briere needs to replace him immediately. Anyone would be an upgrade at this point.
- BiggE

It already has. It’s like having a hand tied behind your back

I know they’re playing well, but their joke of a powerplay is going to cost them games. I really don’t care if Torts likes Thompson, but Briere needs to replace him immediately. Anyone would be an upgrade at this point.
- BiggE

Agreed. Without a pp they’re going nowhere fast even if they make the playoffs. It’s so atrocious, I always just hope they don’t lost too much momentum. Is it sad that we’d be better off not only declining the penalty but having the other team go on the pp? I mean, they’re a bigger threat to score in that scenario and they at the very least would gain momentum. I am serious.

They're on the borderline, too. Attard still has to get better defensively and Ginning still has to get better with the puck if they're take the step up to being NHL regulars.
- bmeltzer

Not so sure they are sold on Zamula either.

Andrae hasnt looked like anythign special in LHV as well.

Well, like I said, don’t take it too seriously.

But why?

Well,

1) they need a scoring winger


- Hesh_

They're a rebuilding team. In the same position as the Flyers are. Why would they want an older player who is going to need a new contract?

2) they have a lot of centers


- Hesh_

They do, so why wouldn't a rebuilding team trading a young asset want young assets in return?

3) they can afford TK after a new salary just fine


- Hesh_

They can but why would they want to tie up cap space for an older player as a rebuilding team?

4) Zegras is unhappy and underperforming this year. Plus injured.


- Hesh_

That may be a reason to trade Zegras but it does not support why they would have interest in Konecny as the return

5) a lot of pieces are already in place so their addition of TK helps more than their loss of Zegras. It would help the other guys they already have under contract.
6) because.
- Hesh_

Why would a rebuilding team in the same position as the Flyers supposedly are, want to take on a player that will be 28 and needing a new contract with UFA leverage in return for trading a young asset?

Not so sure they are sold on Zamula either.

Andrae hasnt looked like anythign special in LHV as well.
- hello it's me 2050

I think Andrae will be an NHLer. Has to improve off the puck. But he's the real deal out at the point and in triggering rushes.

I think Andrae will be an NHLer. Has to improve off the puck. But he's the real deal out at the point and in triggering rushes.
- bmeltzer

what about his skating? seems to get beat a lot in LHV.

Frost needs to work on the goal celebrations.

I think Andrae will be an NHLer. Has to improve off the puck. But he's the real deal out at the point and in triggering rushes.
- bmeltzer

While size isn’t nearly as big a deal as it was back in the clutch & grab era, I really don’t see a D group featuring Drysdale, York and Andrae working in the NHL. I think Andrae, if he does become an NHL player, won’t be playing with the Flyers by that time.

They're on the borderline, too. Attard still has to get better defensively and Ginning still has to get better with the puck if they're take the step up to being NHL regulars.
- bmeltzer

Fans are always quick to blame drafting but when ALL of your tweeners never seem to develop into anything that's gotta start falling on development at the AHL level.

(Cates is lucky he never had to play a single game for the Phantoms)

This team desperately needs some Phantom tweeners to start blossoming into Marchessaults, Slavins and Buntings.

Agreed. Without a pp they’re going nowhere fast even if they make the playoffs. It’s so atrocious, I always just hope they don’t lost too much momentum. Is it sad that we’d be better off not only declining the penalty but having the other team go on the pp? I mean, they’re a bigger threat to score in that scenario and they at the very least would gain momentum. I am serious.
- Hextall271

That's funny you say that. I know we've all joked that they should just decline the penalty, but with this team it might really serve them well. I've seen games where they have momentum and are threatening to score, and then they go on the PP and lose all the momentum as they fumble around on their morbid PP.

Fans are always quick to blame drafting but when ALL of your tweeners never seem to develop into anything that's gotta start falling on development at the AHL level.

Cates is lucky he never had to play a single game for the Phantoms.

This team desperately needs some Phantom tweeners to start blossoming into Marchessaults, Slavins and Buntings.
- Tomahawk

Agree. That's why the Flyers overpay for guys like ND and Hathaway. And expend multiple assets for guys like Risto.

Fans are always quick to blame drafting but when ALL of your tweeners never seem to develop into anything that's gotta start falling on development at the AHL level.

(Cates is lucky he never had to play a single game for the Phantoms)

This team desperately needs some Phantom tweeners to start blossoming into Marchessaults, Slavins and Buntings.
- Tomahawk

I think they need to get rid of Lappy. No offence to the guy, but the game I saw last week on NHL Network had them looking like a totally listless hockey team. This organization needs to stop worshipping ex players and move on. Get a developmental coach in there that knows today's game. I hear the same thing with Laughts. Oh, he's very well liked in the room and we can't get rid of him. So what!!

While size isn’t nearly as big a deal as it was back in the clutch & grab era, I really don’t see a D group featuring Drysdale, York and Andrae working in the NHL. I think Andrae, if he does become an NHL player, won’t be playing with the Flyers by that time.
- BiggE

I read an article that broke down recent stanley cup winners. The gist of the article was that size of dmen was a big factor for these teams as they had large dmen. Size of the forwards was not, there was no correlation with the size of forwards to winning in the playoffs

While size isn’t nearly as big a deal as it was back in the clutch & grab era, I really don’t see a D group featuring Drysdale, York and Andrae working in the NHL. I think Andrae, if he does become an NHL player, won’t be playing with the Flyers by that time.
- BiggE

I agree. This concerns me with the d makeup. The next draft is key. I’d love to get another first pick or high second. Still spend a couple picks on dmen and also look for a top 6 forward.

I read an article that broke down recent stanley cup winners. The gist of the article was that size of dmen was a big factor for these teams as they had large dmen. Size of the forwards was not, there was no correlation with the size of forwards to winning in the playoffs
- Just5

Lots of forechecking in today's game. Last year's Finals was a perfect example. The Panthers were living off their forecheck in the offensive zone and to a degree the neutral zone, but Vegas was able to shut that down with their huge defensive core.