I read an article that broke down recent stanley cup winners. The gist of the article was that size of dmen was a big factor for these teams as they had large dmen. Size of the forwards was not, there was no correlation with the size of forwards to winning in the playoffs
- Just5

That settles it, D size does matter fellas.

I think Andrae will be an NHLer. Has to improve off the puck. But he's the real deal out at the point and in triggering rushes.
- bmeltzer

good to hear

Fans are always quick to blame drafting but when ALL of your tweeners never seem to develop into anything that's gotta start falling on development at the AHL level.

(Cates is lucky he never had to play a single game for the Phantoms)

This team desperately needs some Phantom tweeners to start blossoming into Marchessaults, Slavins and Buntings.
- Tomahawk

Setting the sites a little high there? I'll settle for contributing depth players.

They're on the borderline, too. Attard still has to get better defensively and Ginning still has to get better with the puck if they're take the step up to being NHL regulars.
- bmeltzer

I did not get a chance to watch the game, how did Drysdale play, your assessment so far on him? It feels like if he can progress like York has he could be really good?

on AHL, you hear teams like the Pens have not much on the farm, but they are one of the better AHL teams, is that due to them having more vet presence on the farm? I don't follow the AHL much, curious on your take on the league.

I did not get a chance to watch the game, how did Drysdale play, your assessment so far on him? It feels like if he can progress like York has he could be really good?

on AHL, you hear teams like the Pens have not much on the farm, but they are one of the better AHL teams, is that due to them having more vet presence on the farm? I don't follow the AHL much, curious on your take on the league.
- wcorvette

In my view, drysdale has been underwhelming of late. I barely notice him and he certainly hasn’t helped turn around the pp.

Setting the sites a little high there? I'll settle for contributing depth players.
- MJL

Lol, well it's what the team needs. 😂

When's the last time the Flyers unexpectedly got a real contributor from the AHL team? Guys like Cates and Ghost barely played there. Meanwhile dudes like Sharp, Seidenberg and Maroon had to go to other teams before their potential was unlocked.

It's concerning to say the least.

Lol, well it's what the team needs. 😂

When's the last time the Flyers unexpectedly got a real contributor from the AHL team? Guys like Cates and Ghost barely played there. Meanwhile dudes like Sharp, Seidenberg and Maroon had to go to other teams before their potential was unlocked.

It's concerning to say the least.
- Tomahawk

I've been saying the Flyers have sucked at player development for a long time now. I'm just going to look for baby steps. Like develop some 4th line role players so they don't have to spend 6M against the cap for the 4th line.

He actually had many more than that (gloves dropped, etc) but only two two that were ruled as fighting majors. That's per Mark.
- bmeltzer

Guys that watched hockey in that era say nobody wanted to fight Gordy. A goal and an assist and no dance partner.

Lol, well it's what the team needs. 😂

When's the last time the Flyers unexpectedly got a real contributor from the AHL team? Guys like Cates and Ghost barely played there. Meanwhile dudes like Sharp, Seidenberg and Maroon had to go to other teams before their potential was unlocked.

It's concerning to say the least.
- Tomahawk

Matt Read? And his impact was short-lived relative to the guys you mentioned

Frost needs to work on the goal celebrations.
- mickel25

😂

You didn’t like his weird one-leg scooter pump?

😂

You didn’t like his weird one-leg scooter pump?
- anti-lame

I did not care for it.

I did not care for it.
- mickel25

I'm more interested in him working on scoring more goals and points.

I'm more interested in him working on scoring more goals and points.
- MJL

Thanks for letting all of us know.

Thanks for letting all of us know.
- mickel25

You're welcome. Anytime.

Here is the difference between playing good hockey with the lead and coasting with the lead:

Boston 4, Vancouver 0
The Bruins had a 4-0 lead 49 seconds into the 2nd period. The Bruins outshot the Canucks 25-17 in the game, the Corsi% per period was (58%, 45%, 54%) and the scoring chances for and against per period were (11/4,9/9,5/4). This tells me the Bruins once they got a lead played a strong game to close it out, they didn't coast. This is what good teams do, especially at home.

Flyers 4, Jets 1
The Flyers had a 4-0 lead 2.29 into the 2nd period. From the second period on the Flyers were outshot (24-7), the the Corsi% per period was (65%, 31%, 17%) and the scoring chances for and against per period were (13/4,3/15,5/10). This illustrates a team that is coasting out the game, not playing a strong game to finish off a good team.

This is why Torts was so upset after the game and rightly so. If the Flyers think they are good enough to come out and play 1 or 2 periods of hockey and expect to win these games, they are in for a rude awakening. Win, lose or draw next game, I want to see this Flyers team play 60 minutes or more if needed.

Matt Read? And his impact was short-lived relative to the guys you mentioned
- Big_E_88

Matt Read also barely played with the Phantoms.

it's like any non top prospect who spends an extended amount of time there turns into 💩

I'm more interested in him working on scoring more goals and points.
- MJL

Then Frost needs to learn to show up consistently each and every shift. You will call this fantasy but to me Frost's biggest problem is he is not noticable every shift he plays, and that is the number 1 reason he is seeing 14 minutes a night, and only 11 minutes 5v5. It's also the reason Poehling gets 18 minutes, and TK got over 20 minutes last night.

Then Frost needs to learn to show up consistently each and every shift. You will call this fantasy but to me Frost's biggest problem is he is not noticable every shift he plays, and that is the number 1 reason he is seeing 14 minutes a night, and only 11 minutes 5v5. It's also the reason Poehling gets 18 minutes, and TK got over 20 minutes last night.
- jd250

AHL talent - amiright!

Matt Read also barely played with the Phantoms.

it's like any non top prospect who spends an extended amount of time there turns into 💩
- Tomahawk

Or is it that these non top prospects just aren’t any good

AHL talent - amiright!
- corduroy

AHL? Try ECHL. Dude can't even get noticed on every shift.

Then Frost needs to learn to show up consistently each and every shift. You will call this fantasy but to me Frost's biggest problem is he is not noticable every shift he plays, and that is the number 1 reason he is seeing 14 minutes a night, and only 11 minutes 5v5. It's also the reason Poehling gets 18 minutes, and TK got over 20 minutes last night.
- jd250

You can say that for every skater, every team, every game.

Matt Read also barely played with the Phantoms.

it's like any non top prospect who spends an extended amount of time there turns into 💩
- Tomahawk

carter and Richards?

Matt Read also barely played with the Phantoms.

it's like any non top prospect who spends an extended amount of time there turns into 💩
- Tomahawk

It’s troubling for sure. I wish I could understand a word coming out of Lappys busted ass grill….hes the type of guy I’d love to see with Al in the intermission reports/postgame!!

Here is the difference between playing good hockey with the lead and coasting with the lead:

Boston 4, Vancouver 0
The Bruins had a 4-0 lead 49 seconds into the 2nd period. The Bruins outshot the Canucks 25-17 in the game, the Corsi% per period was (58%, 45%, 54%) and the scoring chances for and against per period were (11/4,9/9,5/4). This tells me the Bruins once they got a lead played a strong game to close it out, they didn't coast. This is what good teams do, especially at home.

Flyers 4, Jets 1
The Flyers had a 4-0 lead 2.29 into the 2nd period. From the second period on the Flyers were outshot (24-7), the the Corsi% per period was (65%, 31%, 17%) and the scoring chances for and against per period were (13/4,3/15,5/10). This illustrates a team that is coasting out the game, not playing a strong game to finish off a good team.

This is why Torts was so upset after the game and rightly so. If the Flyers think they are good enough to come out and play 1 or 2 periods of hockey and expect to win these games, they are in for a rude awakening. Win, lose or draw next game, I want to see this Flyers team play 60 minutes or more if needed.
- jd250

I'll post this again from the other thread to explain it to you.

The NHL season is 82 games long and it is a brutal grind. The Flyers in order to compete, have been playing at a playoff level of intensity since the beginning of the season. They need to in order to compete. The Flyers players instinctively know that they can't keep that up all season. They ran out of gas before the all star break. They aren't good enough to play without that level of intensity. So they coasted. Top teams due to their higher quality of players and talent, can play structured hockey without playoff level intensity and still play at a high level. The Flyers can't.
It's not that I don't recognize the difference between the two situations, as you asininely state. It's that I recognize and understand why the Flyers played as they did after getting up 4-0. They're hoping to survive the regular season with some gas in the tank for the stretch. Here endeth the lesson.

I did not get a chance to watch the game, how did Drysdale play, your assessment so far on him? It feels like if he can progress like York has he could be really good?

on AHL, you hear teams like the Pens have not much on the farm, but they are one of the better AHL teams, is that due to them having more vet presence on the farm? I don't follow the AHL much, curious on your take on the league.
- wcorvette

He still looks like he is adjusting to how The Flyers play their zone as compared to the man to man the Ducks played. He has to unlearn what was probably automatic to him the last few years and learn to think differently on the ice.

You can see the skill. And he drew a penalty because of that. (not that it matters with this PP)