Oh, you're hysterical. It's actually a simple concept that you're apparently incapable of grasping. You're not alone though.

For the sake of making a genuine attempt to enlighten you and teach you something. Despite your obvious ignorance and arrogance, I will explain it further.

Basic Point 1. The Flyers all season, have been playing with a high level of intensity under Tortorella in an attempt to compete. That game in and game out intensity, has helped lessen the gap in talent and roster wise between the Flyers and obviously more talented teams.

Basic Point 2. In the NHL, when teams get a substantial lead in a game, such as the 4-0 lead the Flyers had early in the 2nd period. Certain things tend to happen. One, the team with the lead will generally make a shift in strategy, such as going from a 2-1 forecheck to a 1-2 forecheck to play more conservatively. Not pushing offense and making safer plays with the puck such as a lot of chip outs and dump ins. Human nature also comes into play as teams with the lead will back off in intensity while teams behind will ramp up intensity, become more aggressive and take more risks offensively to try and get back in the game. It can be seen statistically in what is known as score effects.

The above is very basic stuff that hopefully you can grasp but I have my doubts.

Now as it applies to last nights game.

The Flyers after getting out to a 4-0 lead, clearly took their foot off of the gas to use a cliche. NHL players instinctively know as a team, that you simply can't play with playoff level intensity for 82 games and expect to have any energy in the tank left towards the end of the season. Players know that they have to take opportunities to conserve energy when they can. Its why early season hockey is generally less intense than hockey later in the season and into the playoffs. The Flyers however have done the opposite. They came right out of the gates this season with a high intensity level hockey.
Now its not that the Flyers can't play with the same structure when having a big lead. Its that once you remove that high level of intensity from the Flyers game, they lose the ability to compete. Teams with a higher talent level and more skill can still compete at a high level even when not playing their A game. We've seen that recently in games against Colorado and TB. When the Flyers don't play with that high level of energy and intensity, the gap between them and the better teams increases. The Flyers instinctively let off of intensity with the big lead to conserve energy. They don't have the talent and players to play at a high compete level without that high level intensity. That sums up what you don't understand about the Flyers and the game of hockey.
- MJL

I appreciate that you put a lot of thought into this reply and I respect your opinion, but I think you are completely wrong. First let's address the talent gap. Sure the Flyers don't have the talent on their roster of a Mark Scheifele or a Kyle Connor, but this talent gap is made much smaller when the Flyers are staked to a 4-0 lead. At that point just play sound hockey and close the game out! You don't need to be an uber talented team to do this. Secondly, Torts stated today he didn't even have to talk to the players about last night's game because they know how bad they played and they know Ersson was their best player. TK, Sanheim were two players that I heard address this point in their interviews since. The bottom line for me is the team did take their foot off the gas and coast, and it almost cost them the game! They know it, their coaches know it and you and I know it. And it had nothing to do with quality of the player or a talent gap.

Only he can do it. All others are stains.
- Robert's Plant

Of course...I should know better!

You're a moron. I'm posting MY post from another thread. Not moving another posters post to another thread.

- MJL

Thank you! It's nice of you to treat us to your words of wisdom by moving your posts over for us to peruse in case we missed it the first time. You are a good man!

Friedman on 32TP: "I believe the Flyers and Konecny are talking about this extension, I believe they've made it a priority and they're going to try and get it done. It's going to be a big number"
- StepfordSam

I definitely see that happening. I love TK and he deserves the big deal if he wants to stay here. Of course, there's always that worry that it will end up being a mistake and we will be complaining about it a few years from now.

I definitely see that happening. I love TK and he deserves the big deal if he wants to stay here. Of course, there's always that worry that it will end up being a mistake and we will be complaining about it a few years from now.
- Don Nachbaur

TK and Couts are future leaders of this team.

I appreciate that you put a lot of thought into this reply and I respect your opinion, but I think you are completely wrong. First let's address the talent gap. Sure the Flyers don't have the talent on their roster of a Mark Scheifele or a Kyle Connor, but this talent gap is made much smaller when the Flyers are staked to a 4-0 lead. At that point just play sound hockey and close the game out! You don't need to be an uber talented team to do this. Secondly, Torts stated today he didn't even have to talk to the players about last night's game because they know how bad they played and they know Ersson was their best player. TK, Sanheim were two players that I heard address this point in their interviews since. The bottom line for me is the team did take their foot off the gas and coast, and it almost cost them the game! They know it, their coaches know it and you and I know it. And it had nothing to do with quality of the player or a talent gap.
- jd250

You're stating here that the score of a single game can change the talent gap and make it smaller when a team has a 4-0 lead and you're calling me a complete stooge! LOL
Yes, you do need to be a very talented team to play with less intensity and close out a game when the other team is coming at you in full attack mode and they're a better team to start with! That's what you don't get. The Flyers didn't stop playing with structure. They stopped competing. Here is what you clearly don't get. My opinion is being offered not in a manner to argue that they didn't take their foot off of the gas but as an explanation for why they did. Why they all of a sudden stopped competing. That is what you don't get and what you're ignorant to.

Here is something else you don't get. Top players, especially top defenseman in a game situation with the lead, are able to efficiently shut down other teams with efficiency and while conserving energy. While lesser players, especially the defenseman that the Flyers have, can't do that. They have to keep on expending high energy in order to play against both the game situation and against superior players.

What else you don't understand, is that the Flyers, lacking those elite level players, have to play a high intensity game to be able to compete against the better teams. When they don't play with that high level of intensity, you see the score effects statistically that you saw in the 2nd and 3rd periods against Winnipeg. The Flyers players as a whole, know that they can't keep playing with that high level of intensity for 60 minutes a game every game for a full 82 game NHL season. Even though Tortorella wants them to and is pushing them to. They will not hold up. They have to take advantage of situations to conserve energy when they can. The Winnipeg game was just that opportunity after getting a 4 goal lead.

Torts talked about Drysdale at length in the pre-game yesterday. He said Drysdale has missed a lot of time due to injuries, thus he has a lot of learn about how to play defense and how the Flyers play defensive zone coverage, going from man-to-man coverage in Anaheim to zone coverage with the Flyers. I suspect that Drysdale will not be that noticeable offensively for a while as he is learning the coverages and working with Shaw on improving his defensive skills.
- jd250

I sure hope this is the case! He looked great when he got here but since the injury, not so much. Hope he stays out of Torts' doghouse!

Oh, you're hysterical. It's actually a simple concept that you're apparently incapable of grasping. You're not alone though.

For the sake of making a genuine attempt to enlighten you and teach you something. Despite your obvious ignorance and arrogance, I will explain it further.

Basic Point 1. The Flyers all season, have been playing with a high level of intensity under Tortorella in an attempt to compete. That game in and game out intensity, has helped lessen the gap in talent and roster wise between the Flyers and obviously more talented teams.

Basic Point 2. In the NHL, when teams get a substantial lead in a game, such as the 4-0 lead the Flyers had early in the 2nd period. Certain things tend to happen. One, the team with the lead will generally make a shift in strategy, such as going from a 2-1 forecheck to a 1-2 forecheck to play more conservatively. Not pushing offense and making safer plays with the puck such as a lot of chip outs and dump ins. Human nature also comes into play as teams with the lead will back off in intensity while teams behind will ramp up intensity, become more aggressive and take more risks offensively to try and get back in the game. It can be seen statistically in what is known as score effects.

The above is very basic stuff that hopefully you can grasp but I have my doubts.

Now as it applies to last nights game.

The Flyers after getting out to a 4-0 lead, clearly took their foot off of the gas to use a cliche. NHL players instinctively know as a team, that you simply can't play with playoff level intensity for 82 games and expect to have any energy in the tank left towards the end of the season. Players know that they have to take opportunities to conserve energy when they can. Its why early season hockey is generally less intense than hockey later in the season and into the playoffs. The Flyers however have done the opposite. They came right out of the gates this season with a high intensity level hockey.
Now its not that the Flyers can't play with the same structure when having a big lead. Its that once you remove that high level of intensity from the Flyers game, they lose the ability to compete. Teams with a higher talent level and more skill can still compete at a high level even when not playing their A game. We've seen that recently in games against Colorado and TB. When the Flyers don't play with that high level of energy and intensity, the gap between them and the better teams increases. The Flyers instinctively let off of intensity with the big lead to conserve energy. They don't have the talent and players to play at a high compete level without that high level intensity. That sums up what you don't understand about the Flyers and the game of hockey.
- MJL

It always makes my day when you call people ignorant and arrogant! It's even better when you issue your multi-paragraph decrees. Pure comedy.

TK and Couts are future leaders of this team.
- jd250

Yes and I'm totally fine with that.

Ran out of track? It was a very simple concept that went over your head. You failed to grasp a very common and frequent occurrence in the game of hockey. Making a fool of yourself in calling it stupid.
- MJL

We get it...we are all asinine and unintelligent! The reality is that you are completely misguided in thinking that the players stopped playing last night to conserve energy for the remainder of the season. That simply isn't the case. Hockey players don't think like that in a game. Another example of you never playing the game. Oh, and the concept didn't go over my head. It went under my feet!!

this is where you lost him

- anti-lame

We get it...we are all asinine and unintelligent! The reality is that you are completely misguided in thinking that the players stopped playing last night to conserve energy for the remainder of the season. That simply isn't the case. Hockey players don't think like that in a game. Another example of you never playing the game. Oh, and the concept didn't go over my head. It went under my feet!!
- Phillywhiteout

There is zero substance in your reply. Nothing to support and substantiate your claims. You're arguing against a very simple and known concept. Its just full of ignorant rhetoric as you're incapable of making an intelligent retort. No, its not all, just you!

There is zero substance in your reply. Nothing to support and substantiate your claims. You're arguing against a very simple and known concept. Its just full of ignorant rhetoric as you're incapable of making an intelligent retort. No, its not all, just you!

- MJL

Your memory must be going on you. It seems you've called several others on here morons this afternoon and so on, so it's not just me. There is nothing to retort. You are absolutely 100% WRONG in this case. Now why don't you go sit in the corner with Mr. Puck Luck!

Your memory must be going on you. It seems you've called several others on here morons this afternoon and so on, so it's not just me. There is nothing to retort. You are absolutely 100% WRONG in this case. Now why don't you go sit in the corner with Mr. Puck Luck!
- Phillywhiteout

Yet, you can't tell me why I'm wrong. You're incapable of making an intelligent argument.

Cates never played a single game in LHV.

Zamula, we're still waiting to see what he becomes.

And Seeler was already an NHLer before he got here.
- Tomahawk

i was just referring to lower picks that are here.

People who feel the need to be right all the time probably don’t command a ton of respect at their day jobs. 😂

Arby’s will do that to ya I guess

Yet, you can't tell me why I'm wrong. You're incapable of making an intelligent argument.
- MJL

You're wrong because players generally take each game on an individual basis. Those players had a 4-0 cushion last night and stopped skating. It's a natural tendency to do so when you are protecting a nice lead. They were not knowingly conserving energy for the remainder of the season. Again, it's not really that complicated.

You're wrong because players generally take each game on an individual basis. Those players had a 4-0 cushion last night and stopped skating. It's a natural tendency to do so when you are protecting a nice lead. They were not knowingly conserving energy for the remainder of the season. Again, it's not really that complicated.
- Phillywhiteout

Again, you lost him

I can’t believe you have to explain something so basic

Maybe he just gets gassed watching the stats tick up on naturalstattrick.com

Oh, and MJL… gassed means tired in “hockey player speak”

You're wrong because players generally take each game on an individual basis. Those players had a 4-0 cushion last night and stopped skating. It's a natural tendency to do so when you are protecting a nice lead. They were not knowingly conserving energy for the remainder of the season. Again, it's not really that complicated.
- Phillywhiteout

Absolutely they were knowingly conserving energy. Happens all the time in hockey and in sports. Are you telling me that stopping skating is not conserving energy. How does that happen? By accident? LOL

Are you telling me that in the final games of the season, when a #1 seed in the conference has a game against a bottom feeder and there is nothing to be gained in the game, that the team doesn't consciously come into the game thinking that they're just going to play out the game, not get too intense, avoid injury and conserve energy and get ready for the playoffs? Of course they do! Why is there a clear and discernable difference between early season October hockey and the level of intensity of games in March and April. In large part due to players know that they can't go balls out every game for 82 games. It's not the only reason but a big reason.

Apparently it's very complicated for you.

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TK and Couts are future leaders of this team.
- jd250

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQiOA7euaYA

TK and Couts are future leaders of this team.
- jd250

so now your ok with 8 years and 9 million per?

Absolutely they were knowingly conserving energy. Happens all the time in hockey and in sports. Are you telling me that stopping skating is not conserving energy. How does that happen? By accident? LOL

Are you telling me that in the final games of the season, when a #1 seed in the conference has a game against a bottom feeder and there is nothing to be gained in the game, that the team doesn't consciously come into the game thinking that they're just going to play out the game, not get too intense, avoid injury and conserve energy and get ready for the playoffs? Of course they do! Why is there a clear and discernable difference between early season October hockey and the level of intensity of games in March and April. In large part due to players know that they can't go balls out every game for 82 games. It's not the only reason but a big reason.

Apparently it's very complicated for you.
- MJL

not conserving energy at all. Now if you want to say they got complacent then have at it.

TK and Couts are future leaders of this team.
- jd250

isn't couts the current leader?

I’m all for wild fan theories and talking it out with each other and disagreeing respectively but when someone condescendingly sh!ts on every poster they don’t agree with when they themselves are wrong often about simple concepts of the sport (or sports in general) how can you not expect the ire of the rest of the group?

For example, MJL preached that it was the flyers who failed to develop Phil Myers. So when Nashville and tampa had a crack at him - two teams who are known to excel at developing that position, don’t get anything more out of him - then maybe the player is not that good to begin with. Honestly, I hate having to keep bringing it up - but when MJL wants to talk about “failed player evaluations” from other posters - I understand it sucks to be wrong but you need to be more humble than that.

A question he won’t answer: did Nashville and Tampa fail to develop him? Or is he not as good as you thought.

You will never answer this question 😂