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Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Feb 9 @ 5:53 PM ET
Friedman on 32TP: "I believe the Flyers and Konecny are talking about this extension, I believe they've made it a priority and they're going to try and get it done. It's going to be a big number"
- StepfordSam


If that dude gets 10AAV I'll lose my sh!t.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Feb 9 @ 5:53 PM ET
If that dude gets 10AAV I'll lose my sh!t.
- Pelle31Forever


I don’t even want to see 8 lol
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Feb 9 @ 5:56 PM ET
No I can't! TK is noticeable every single game he plays. That is just one example. There are dozens of players that I can say this about.
- jd250


Every single GAME is far different than every single SHIFT.

I'll bet dollars to donuts you didn't recognize TK for a shift or two last night.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Feb 9 @ 5:57 PM ET
I don’t even want to see 8 lol
- anti-lame


I agree with you 100%. Heck I'll see your 8 mil and raise you I don't even want to see 8 years.
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Feb 9 @ 6:00 PM ET
People who feel the need to be right all the time probably don’t command a ton of respect at their day jobs. 😂

Arby’s will do that to ya I guess

- anti-lame

You just gave me a serious yearning for their curly fries, and I can’t have em. I’m off potatoes right now. Thanks for that.
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Feb 9 @ 6:02 PM ET
I agree with you 100%. Heck I'll see your 8 mil and raise you I don't even want to see 8 years.
- Pelle31Forever

The way salaries are trending, you’d have to think he’s not gonna get less than 8, right?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 9 @ 6:04 PM ET
Every single GAME is far different than every single SHIFT.

I'll bet dollars to donuts you didn't recognize TK for a shift or two last night.

- Pelle31Forever


A significant nuance isn't it? Every player, no matter how good has a bad game, bad periods and bad shifts. The entire standard of "noticing" a player, is really a silly standard. A player being noticed depends on a lot of factors, including one's ability to watch and discern what is going on a game. That particular poster routinely claims to not notice players he doesn't like. Claiming that as evidence that the player didn't play well. When confronted with the facts that show that he is wrong. He falls back on the player was invisible or not noticed. As if that is a legitimate standard for judging a player.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 9 @ 6:04 PM ET
i was just referring to lower picks that are here.
- Peter Richards


Sure, but the conversation was about the inability of the Phantoms to develop anybody outside of top picks.


Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Feb 9 @ 6:05 PM ET
The way salaries are trending, you’d have to think he’s not gonna get less than 8, right?
- Hesh_


Konecny has every right to ask for 8 or more. I just don’t feel it's in the best interest of the Flyers to do so.
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Feb 9 @ 6:08 PM ET
Konecny has every right to ask for 8 or more. I just don’t feel it's in the best interest of the Flyers to do so.
- Pelle31Forever

Kinda why I was spitballing on the 1st page
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Feb 9 @ 6:10 PM ET
A significant nuance isn't it? Every player, no matter how good has a bad game, bad periods and bad shifts. The entire standard of "noticing" a player, is really a silly standard. A player being noticed depends on a lot of factors, including one's ability to watch and discern what is going on a game. That particular poster routinely claims to not notice players he doesn't like. Claiming that as evidence that the player didn't play well. When confronted with the facts that show that he is wrong. He falls back on the player was invisible or not noticed.
- MJL


To say you need to notice a player every shift feels to me like he's really trying his hardest to not like that player.

As much I as like Coots and TK I couldn't tell you what I saw each and every second they were on the ice. Heck in the Boston game I didn't know what Pasta did every shift.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Feb 9 @ 6:25 PM ET
Kinda why I was spitballing on the 1st page
- Hesh_


It's not an easy situation. I never honestly felt like the Flyers would truly move him. Certainly not at this trade deadline.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Feb 9 @ 6:35 PM ET
You just gave me a serious yearning for their curly fries, and I can’t have em. I’m off potatoes right now. Thanks for that.
- Hesh_


I was being totally irresponsible there. My apologies 😂
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Feb 9 @ 6:37 PM ET
not conserving energy at all. Now if you want to say they got complacent then have at it.
- hello it's me 2050


This is the correct answer
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Feb 9 @ 6:39 PM ET
Konecny has every right to ask for 8 or more. I just don’t feel it's in the best interest of the Flyers to do so.
- Pelle31Forever


By the 25-26 season, it is expected the cap will be around 92 million. Salaries are going to be adjusted. Hypothetically, I could see TK getting close to 9 million/yr with the expected salary cap increases. The Flyers next summer will gain significant cap relief with Petersen and Atkinson coming off the books (also Hathaway). Briere needs to take advantage of this current center market and move Laughton. Will they extend both Frost and York next summer? Interesting times ahead.
Wingdestroyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.27.2020

Feb 9 @ 6:46 PM ET
Sure, but the conversation was about the inability of the Phantoms to develop anybody outside of top picks.



- Tomahawk


I wonder how it stacks up to that graph I posted…..but I do not expect you or anyone else to do that math

Also I will not be doing that either
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Feb 9 @ 6:52 PM ET
By the 25-26 season, it is expected the cap will be around 92 million. Salaries are going to be adjusted. Hypothetically, I could see TK getting close to 9 million/yr with the expected salary cap increases. The Flyers next summer will gain significant cap relief with Petersen and Atkinson coming off the books (also Hathaway). Briere needs to take advantage of this current center market and move Laughton. Will they extend both Frost and York next summer? Interesting times ahead.
- Trox88



Flyers don't have much depth at center and, while I don't love his game (or cellys) I still think you try to sign Frost and hope he continues to progress.

however I'd be all for a hockey trade for another center that might fit the game plan/style of play better. or as a piece toward a 1D.

I think they have to sign York and I'd imagine they want to. He just turned 23 and he just seems so composed back there. I forget he's not a vet sometimes. still has things to work on but it's easy to forget how young he is when he plays such a mature game.

I'll be disappointed if they don't trade Laughton. The whole "don't fall in love" I really feel is about Laughton. Who else could you imagine the franchise "being friends with", as Torts put it, after their tenure?

and before you say it hello it's me .... no I don't think a 2 year deal for a 25 year old former first round pick at $1.9m (RP) is "falling in love". Holding onto Laughton and (god forbid) giving him another deal - that is falling in love.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Feb 9 @ 6:59 PM ET
By the 25-26 season, it is expected the cap will be around 92 million. Salaries are going to be adjusted. Hypothetically, I could see TK getting close to 9 million/yr with the expected salary cap increases. The Flyers next summer will gain significant cap relief with Petersen and Atkinson coming off the books (also Hathaway). Briere needs to take advantage of this current center market and move Laughton. Will they extend both Frost and York next summer? Interesting times ahead.
- Trox88


Doesn't Hathaway have another year?
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Feb 9 @ 7:09 PM ET
Locking up wingers long term with no centers in the system. It’s a bold move Cotton. Let’s see how it plays out.
- hereticpride

Nice tie in there.
Duck, dip, dive, dodge
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Feb 9 @ 7:13 PM ET
Doesn't Hathaway have another year?
- Pelle31Forever


Hathaway signed a 2 yr contract last summer. Pretty sure Hathaway, Atkinson, and Petersen come off the books next summer. In my previous post, I forgot Cates will be in the same boat as York and Frost next summer. Also, Foerster's ELC is up next summer.

I do expect some type of hockey trade to happen over the next 2 yrs to add depth at center.
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Feb 9 @ 7:13 PM ET
Torts talked about Drysdale at length in the pre-game yesterday. He said Drysdale has missed a lot of time due to injuries, thus he has a lot of learn about how to play defense and how the Flyers play defensive zone coverage, going from man-to-man coverage in Anaheim to zone coverage with the Flyers. I suspect that Drysdale will not be that noticeable offensively for a while as he is learning the coverages and working with Shaw on improving his defensive skills.
- jd250

I'm okay with that. With Drysdale and his skills I am comfortable playing the long game with him.
I have faith in shaw and Torts. They turned RR into a decent defender now.
For all I dislike about Torts I have to admit that he is instilling a very solid skill set of hpw to play defense with this group.
Drysdale may have an even higher ceiling with Shaw and Torts developing him
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Feb 9 @ 7:41 PM ET
Well…for some clubs I’m sure their first rounders have an easier time turning into bottom 6 contributors if they don’t hit their ceiling (like Laughton)….unfortunately for the Flyers, they have had a bunch over the last decade that didn’t even pan out at all.

Rubstov
Patrick
O’Brien

The Flyers development team didn’t hinder them

- Wingdestroyer


The Runstov draft sucked.
dubc55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.25.2014

Feb 9 @ 8:46 PM ET
Locking up wingers long term with no centers in the system. It’s a bold move Cotton. Let’s see how it plays out.
- hereticpride


🤣 👏
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Feb 9 @ 9:19 PM ET
We get it...we are all asinine and unintelligent! The reality is that you are completely misguided in thinking that the players stopped playing last night to conserve energy for the remainder of the season. That simply isn't the case. Hockey players don't think like that in a game. Another example of you never playing the game. Oh, and the concept didn't go over my head. It went under my feet!!
- Phillywhiteout

not everybody but you absolutely are
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Feb 9 @ 9:52 PM ET
Flyers don't have much depth at center and, while I don't love his game (or cellys) I still think you try to sign Frost and hope he continues to progress.

however I'd be all for a hockey trade for another center that might fit the game plan/style of play better. or as a piece toward a 1D.

I think they have to sign York and I'd imagine they want to. He just turned 23 and he just seems so composed back there. I forget he's not a vet sometimes. still has things to work on but it's easy to forget how young he is when he plays such a mature game.

I'll be disappointed if they don't trade Laughton. The whole "don't fall in love" I really feel is about Laughton. Who else could you imagine the franchise "being friends with", as Torts put it, after their tenure?

and before you say it hello it's me .... no I don't think a 2 year deal for a 25 year old former first round pick at $1.9m (RP) is "falling in love". Holding onto Laughton and (god forbid) giving him another deal - that is falling in love.

- anti-lame


Maybe he was meaning Hart and his removal from the team.
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