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landros 2
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Feb 15 @ 8:44 AM ET
He did,but to reintroduce him as an "A" when TK and Coots are introduced as captains is the point. Gives the impression he is not getting traded.

I wish they would have waited to the off season, or until after the trade deadline. Trade Laughton..name the 3 captains in the days afterwards. Now it seems they are sticking with Laughton, which is another big mistake.

- TheFreak



Maybe they felt they needed to name both Coots and TK because the only guy with a letter may not be here? Timing seems odd.
landros 2
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Feb 15 @ 8:45 AM ET
as someone mentioned eerier, maybe naming the 2 new "leaders" is a prelude to moving out Laughton.

now I will believe it when I see it.

- hello it's me 2050


I’ll take ownership of this conspiracy theory….so someone can tag it and tell me I’m an idiot six months from now.
Phillywhiteout
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Feb 15 @ 8:56 AM ET
Maybe they felt they needed to name both Coots and TK because the only guy with a letter may not be here? Timing seems odd.
- landros 2
This could be a valid point. They aren't gonna take the A away from him. Perhaps they named Coots the captain and TK is gonna have the A now after Laughts is traded.
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Feb 15 @ 9:05 AM ET
Just like Girl Scout cookies. They get more expensive and smaller every year.
- Phillywhiteout



It is well worth since there are no more mean tweets
landros 2
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Feb 15 @ 9:06 AM ET
This could be a valid point. They aren't gonna take the A away from him. Perhaps they named Coots the captain and TK is gonna have the A now after Laughts is traded.
- Phillywhiteout



Could they go without one ? If Laughts was traded? Sure I guess. With Torts anything is possible but it’s only supposed to be a guy with a letter that approach’s the ref with a question is it not? Unless Bettman changed that as well….I can’t keep up.
Pixote Andolini
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Feb 15 @ 9:08 AM ET
I agree that the Flyers are going to repeat the same failed strategies. Couturier is a no brainer for the C. As far as Laughton is concerned. He already had an A and he was heavily rumored to be traded. I know rumors are just rumors but I don't think that changes anything as far as the Flyers plan. What their plan actually is, is anybody's guess.

Signing Konecny to a long term deal in the 9M range is a mistake and if the report is true. Wanting to re-sign Walker in the 5M range is also a mistake.

- MJL


I co-sign concerning the Walker re-signing. Konecny isn't worth 9M/yr IMO especially for a max term contract. Unfortunately he becomes a UFA after next season so if the Flyers don't re-sign him they'll have to make sure they move him before the end of next season. Not re-signing him and then forcing a trade could prove to be a mountain to climb and even if the Flyers are able to land something decent in return like a 1st rounder, I doubt they'll get equal return in the now concerning immediate first line scoring.
roenick97
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Feb 15 @ 9:14 AM ET
The story of John Tortorella seems to be the same story as major pain.

I’ve been reading that the timing of making Sean Couturier captain is weird and it was disrespectful to not make him Captain sooner. Coots hasn’t played in almost two full years with a bad back. Nobody knew if and when Coots returned whether or not his body would hold up or if he could play at the level he was playing at prior to his injury. Two obstacles Coots was able to prove not just to Torts but to everyone.

There’s nothing strange about this timing. We have a stadium game this Saturday. This is a team that was supposed to be a bottom 5 team again this year. Most importantly Torts has called for some push back by the players and I think Coots became captain the moment Torts felt like he scored that FU goal. Everything has fallen into place. Let’s face it. The Flyers are playoff bound and we needed a captain.

I now believe it’s up to Sanheim or Konency to grab that last letter.
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Feb 15 @ 9:17 AM ET
I’ll take ownership of this conspiracy theory….so someone can tag it and tell me I’m an idiot six months from now.
- landros 2

it is a plausible scenario.
hello it's me 2050
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Feb 15 @ 9:18 AM ET
I agree that the Flyers are going to repeat the same failed strategies. Couturier is a no brainer for the C. As far as Laughton is concerned. He already had an A and he was heavily rumored to be traded. I know rumors are just rumors but I don't think that changes anything as far as the Flyers plan. What their plan actually is, is anybody's guess.

Signing Konecny to a long term deal in the 9M range is a mistake and if the report is true. Wanting to re-sign Walker in the 5M range is also a mistake.

- MJL

who would you hire as President, GM, and Coach if you were hilferty
landros 2
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Feb 15 @ 9:18 AM ET
The story of John Tortorella seems to be the same story as major pain.

I’ve been reading that the timing of making Sean Couturier captain is weird and it was disrespectful to not make him Captain sooner. Coots hasn’t played in almost two full years with a bad back. Nobody knew if and when Coots returned whether or not his body would hold up or if he could play at the level he was playing at prior to his injury. Two obstacles Coots was able to prove not just to Torts but to everyone.

There’s nothing strange about this timing. We have a stadium game this Saturday. This is a team that was supposed to be a bottom 5 team again this year. Most importantly Torts has called for some push back by the players and I think Coots became captain the moment Torts felt like he scored that FU goal. Everything has fallen into place. Let’s face it. The Flyers are playoff bound and we needed a captain.

I now believe it’s up to Sanheim or Konency to grab that last letter.

- roenick97



Letter alert…..Konecny already did.
landros 2
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Feb 15 @ 9:40 AM ET
Jackets fire the GM.
jd250
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Feb 15 @ 9:43 AM ET
what's the approach?
- hello it's me 2050

As its stated, the Flyers would have liked to trade Risto and if they could, use his money to extend Walker. Now that Risto is hurt, and from what I read could be out for the more than a month, trading him at the deadline is not going to happen. Thus the Flyers will probably trade Walker at the deadline. I suspect the Flyers will work to trade Risto in the off season and if so maybe if the timing works out might try to sign Walker. Seeler it looks like will be resigned.

I wonder if having Couts taking the 'C' and TK taking the 'A' is a precursor to a Laughton trade at this deadline?
jd250
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Feb 15 @ 9:44 AM ET
Maybe they felt they needed to name both Coots and TK because the only guy with a letter may not be here? Timing seems odd.
- landros 2

I 100% agree.
TheFreak
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Feb 15 @ 9:47 AM ET
This could be a valid point. They aren't gonna take the A away from him. Perhaps they named Coots the captain and TK is gonna have the A now after Laughts is traded.
- Phillywhiteout

From TSN:
https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/ph...anchise-history-1.2076158

The Flyers also announced that forwards Travis Konecny and Scott Laughton will serve as alternate captains.

They named both TK and Laughton as "A"'s going forward. I think if they were trading laughton, they would have just left things status quo, the timing is wierd.

Not trusting the process at all right now.
StepfordSam
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Feb 15 @ 9:49 AM ET
The Flyers officially named captains because they are coalescing around this core once again for the playoff push.

Could use a center and more D never hurts. Who can they add?
TheFreak
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Feb 15 @ 9:50 AM ET
Jackets fire the GM.
- landros 2


2 years at least too late.
jd250
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Feb 15 @ 9:52 AM ET
It's so nice to actually want to scoreboard watch in the NHL. Pittsburgh lost against last night. Tonight the Rangers and Devils have cupcake games, and I think the Flyers are catching Toronto at a good time, with Rielly suspended and several players sick. Be good to get two points heading into the outdoor game.
MBFlyerfan
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Feb 15 @ 9:53 AM ET
From TSN:
https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/ph...anchise-history-1.2076158

The Flyers also announced that forwards Travis Konecny and Scott Laughton will serve as alternate captains.

They named both TK and Laughton as "A"'s going forward. I think if the were trading laughton, they would have just left things status quo, the timing is wierd.

Not trusting the process at all right now.

- TheFreak



I don't agree. Since he is already wearing an A, it would be insulting to just gloss over that fact by not including him in the "festivities".

I think we are making too much out of it. Laughton may or may not be traded, but I don't think the announcement affects that one way or the other. IMO it is just out of respect for an already existing situation.
TheFreak
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Feb 15 @ 9:55 AM ET
Craig Button on Zegras:

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/vi...ing-hot-commodity~2867161
hello it's me 2050
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Feb 15 @ 9:56 AM ET
As its stated, the Flyers would have liked to trade Risto and if they could, use his money to extend Walker. Now that Risto is hurt, and from what I read could be out for the more than a month, trading him at the deadline is not going to happen. Thus the Flyers will probably trade Walker at the deadline. I suspect the Flyers will work to trade Risto in the off season and if so maybe if the timing works out might try to sign Walker. Seeler it looks like will be resigned.

I wonder if having Couts taking the 'C' and TK taking the 'A' is a precursor to a Laughton trade at this deadline?

- jd250

I would like to hit the lottery. RR is not tradeable. He says so pretty much about his contract.

It is not a definite by any means they trade walker. They owe it to the "room" to keep him no? that's part of what culture is about no?

so seeler potentially re-signed.

So in other words, the rebuilding team they always talk abut looks like they will not do much in acquiring assets.
roenick97
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Feb 15 @ 10:06 AM ET
Letter alert…..Konecny already did.
- landros 2

Really??
landros 2
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Feb 15 @ 10:09 AM ET
Really??
- roenick97


Yes….he has the new “A”….it was in the teams press release.
Bayareaflyer
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Feb 15 @ 10:10 AM ET
The Flyers officially named captains because they are coalescing around this core once again for the playoff push.

Could use a center and more D never hurts. Who can they add?

- StepfordSam

Boone Jenner and David Savard come on down
MJL
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Feb 15 @ 10:12 AM ET
As its stated, the Flyers would have liked to trade Risto and if they could, use his money to extend Walker. Now that Risto is hurt, and from what I read could be out for the more than a month, trading him at the deadline is not going to happen. Thus the Flyers will probably trade Walker at the deadline. I suspect the Flyers will work to trade Risto in the off season and if so maybe if the timing works out might try to sign Walker. Seeler it looks like will be resigned.

I wonder if having Couts taking the 'C' and TK taking the 'A' is a precursor to a Laughton trade at this deadline?

- jd250


Trading Ristolainen is likely going to have to involve salary retention. Add that to the cost of re-signing Walker. Laughton also has an A. I don't think it's going to affect what they do.
Pompous
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Feb 15 @ 10:12 AM ET
I'm not confused about JT's desires, his processes, eh?
I am a more casual fan. I pick a couple of players to keep tabs on. Their style of play runs toward... not fragile and smart, a bit energetic, a gamer.
Currently, (and for some time) Coots has ticked the right boxes and I LIKE his game and demeanor.
The crappy way that some of you address him truly yanks my cord. Why work over the most consistent team guy with insults and minimize his contributions?
Frost, I kept thinking I WOULD like to like him. He was uneven and then Torts screwed him over and I find that the treatment was the problem.
Does anybody have the ear of Torts?
Being partially from his lineage, my experience with older determined Italians is there is no cure for their tempers. Ignore them when they are inflated with rage, pay attention when their voices lower.
NEVER ALLOW THEM TO MAKE DECISIONS WHEN HIGHLY TORQUED.
I don't know how to do this when it's your coach.
I wonder what it's like for Jones and Briere to ride that horse?
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