That's the issue I have, or I should say one of the issues that I have with Tortorella. While I certainly don't expect rookies or young players to be treated the same or equally to veterans. I do expect young players to be treated the same in terms of opportunity and standard. Tortorella likes and favors certain types of players and disfavors others. How he treats them differently, is often not rational. He'll cut the ice time or scratch a player for reasons that he'll completely ignore with another player. There is a familiar pattern with Tortorella. When the inevitable ups and downs happen with a young player, we'll see that Tortorella quickly loses patience with some players and then demotes them in the lineup, cuts their ice time and then eventually scratches the player. How he handles the player, greatly contributes to the play losing confidence and not correcting the issues and getting his game back to where it needs to be. Can't improve without opportunity. I could see that and get on board if it was a situation where the team is a contender and you play well or you don't play. That is not the case on this team that is supposedly rebuilding. For as many players that he is given credit for helping develop, he hinders just as many if not more

Then there is Tortorella's flat out hypocrisy. How he stresses communication and developing relationships with players. How he is just as interested in developing the person as much as the player. He is full of crap. We see that is not the case with Frost. How he was not given feedback from the coaches. How he had to go to Tortorella. Tortorella states that he doesn't want to make offensive players into checkers, but it's a two way street. States that he doesn't have the ability or vision that offensive people have. That an offensive player has to give him something away from the puck. We know that Frost has been one of the better forwards away from the puck on the team, yet he was still scratched a doze times and when asked, Tortorella said he has to produce offensively. While a player like Tippett, who at times has been pretty poor away from the puck, has immunity. Foerster doesn't have to produce offensively to stay in the lineup. It's hypocrisy and a double standard

It is certainly true that Tortorella deserves credit for improving this team and it's cohesiveness. Making them into a tight checking team that is hard to play against. He has shown the ability to do that in the past. He's done it here. However is he the right coach to develop young players. To develop this team into a legit cup contender. I say no. I think he has run out of bullets in his coaching bag. He has not shown that he can take a team far in a long, long time. The players like him because they're winning for a change. I don't think that feeling will last. I don't think that the style of play that Tortorella plays will ultimately be a winning style of play for the NHL. He can certainly coach defense and checking. He can't coach offense.

I'm not interested in modest regular season success. That is not enough for me. I'm glad the Flyers are competitive and more fun to watch but that again, is not enough. I don't see him being the right coach for the future of this team. I think the organization sees him as the leader of this franchise. I think that's scary. My wish is for this team to become a legit cup contender. I don't think that happens under Tortorella. I truly hope I'm wrong and you can all ride me telling me I was. I doubt it though.
- MJL

no agenda here 😂

https://twitter.com/nhlfl...&t=w6q3WrhKj3ub3jVkrpV62g

Coots!

For sure he has. Single handedly generates over 10 scoring chances a game.
- TheFreak

No, Konecny in all situations, leads the team with 171 individual scoring chances on the season.

https://twitter.com/nhlflyers/status/1757921576144769329?s=46&t=w6q3WrhKj3ub3jVkrpV62g

Coots!
- mikeyo27

Absolutely a great call and well deserved. This was my pick all along and as I’ve said before I think it’s important to have a captain. I wonder if they’ll name a second alternate capt.

Edit. Tk gets the other A. Very good move by the org.

Tortorella likes and favors certain types of players and disfavors others.

How he handles the player, greatly contributes to the play losing confidence and not correcting the issues and getting his game back to where it needs to be.

For as many players that he is given credit for helping develop, he hinders just as many if not more

How he is just as interested in developing the person as much as the player. He is full of crap. We see that is not the case with Frost.


- MJL

You can’t prove any of this 😂

I'm not interested in modest regular season success. That is not enough for me.
- MJL

Yeah, you’ve said this already.

In other news… Congrats to Coots! More identity building. I love this team.

EDIT: and TK gets the A? They are doing things right as of now. But don’t expect any trades this deadline. They are gunning for it now with everyone.

https://twitter.com/nhlflyers/status/1757921576144769329?s=46&t=w6q3WrhKj3ub3jVkrpV62g

Coots!
- mikeyo27

I was hoping for TK, but really don't have an issue with Coots either. And it sounds like TK is also getting an "A", so all good! On another note, Let's go Cats! Keep those effing Pens down! Thanks!

You can’t prove any of this 😂



Yeah, you’ve said this already.

In other news… Congrats to Coots! More identity building. I love this team.

EDIT: and TK gets the A? They are doing things right as of now. But don’t expect any trades this deadline. They are gunning for it now with everyone.
- anti-lame

I think it’s a good day and I’m very happy with the selections.

side note, the size of tasty cakes are fn unreal. they have shrunk so much they will now be boycotted.
- hello it's me 2050

Price the same ?

I was hoping for TK, but really don't have an issue with Coots either. And it sounds like TK is also getting an "A", so all good!
- Phillywhiteout

Tk is indeed getting the other a. Love it.

I just saw this. Wow. They must be naming the captain. I wonder if it’s tk or coots.
- Hextall271

Laughton? Frost...

Nah it's Coots

https://twitter.com/nhlflyers/status/1757921576144769329?s=46&t=w6q3WrhKj3ub3jVkrpV62g

Coots!
- mikeyo27

It’s about time they picked one. Good for him.

Laughton? Frost...

Nah it's Coots
- TheFreak

It’s too bad the frost didn’t get an A. We could then really start debating all things Frost because he never comes up on this threads haha

It’s about time they picked one. Good for him.
- hereticpride

Agreed. Love it

So the Flyers are going to name a captain?

https://twitter.com/nhlfl...&t=w6q3WrhKj3ub3jVkrpV62g
- mikeyo27

Interesting. Coots or TK? I feel like it should be Coots. TK just doesn't seem like a captain to me.

No, Konecny in all situations, leads the team with 171 individual scoring chances on the season.
- MJL

sarcasm my friend...jd said 600+ scoring chances this year had been generated by TK alone..

I know we are all worried about what TK will cost but if the A is a hint at staying with the team (or their hopes he does) I do like having a homegrown identity. As long as we win. The mathematician in me might not like it but the Disney movie heart in me wants this group to win.

I know.. hook, line and sinker… right?

I guess this is just more fun right now

Bill, do you think…..The way Coots handled the coach’s berating have anything to do with this?
Was it a last test by Torts? I personally wouldn’t put it past him.

Interesting. Coots or TK? I feel like it should be Coots. TK just doesn't seem like a captain to me.
- MBFlyerfan

Maybe some day he will be. Thing is, coots is a recent selke winner and a long time flyer. I really do think that he’s shown his importance to the team this year seeing how much they’ve improved.

Laughton? Frost...

Nah it's Coots
- TheFreak

To me he always was the defacto captain anyways.

sarcasm my friend...jd said 600+ scoring chances this year had been generated by TK alone..
- TheFreak

I missed that one. Doesn't surprise me though.

He loves Coots.
- anti-lame

https://twitter.com/nhlflyers/status/1757921576144769329?s=46&t=w6q3WrhKj3ub3jVkrpV62g

Coots!
- mikeyo27

Finally

Finally
- roenick97

My sentiments exactly.

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Since there’s always a conspiracy….did the Flyers feel the need to act because Laughton, the only guy with a letter, is on his way out?

My sentiments exactly.
- Hextall271

Like I've said previously, I think the whole C thing is overrated but I just wonder, why now? It cracks me up.