When you make a post like you did in reply to me, with zero content. Making zero attempt to genuinely having a conversation. With the simply unintelligent babble that you wrote, it makes you look like a fool. You do that quite frequently. Like I've said to you in the past, if you disagree that's fine. It seems as though all you can do is say that you disagree without content behind it or the juvenile and childish response you made. Your choice. Like I said to you previously. You have a forum here to prove and show I'm a fraud. It's not a threat that I have to be concerned with. You're simply not capable.
- MJL

I already did this today. You have been exposed as a 100% fraud and I for one am not letting you ever live it down!

congrats to coots wonder if that means frost is gone

sarcasm my friend...jd said 600+ scoring chances this year had been generated by TK alone..
- TheFreak

I presented the link to naturalstattrick, that was on-ice scoring chances for, all strengths, look it up yourself. The definition of SCF is SCF - Count of Scoring Chances for that player's team while that player is on the ice. So When TK is on the ice, the Flyers have generated more than 600+ scoring chances.

Just catching you in yet another lie! What a ball of scum you are!

congrats to coots wonder if that means frost is gone
- 2Real

For the love of God, does everything that happens to the Flyers impact poor Morgan Frost??

You are completely wrong here .. AGAIN .. and downright lying on top of it. First of all, I NEVER said Frost was an AHLer. What I posted in the first part of last season was I was afraid Frost may be nothing more than an AHLer, BECAUSE of the way he was playing. I was afraid that he may never get what it takes to become a viable NHL player. This is after he sucked under AV, sucked under Mike Yeo, who worked with Frost on a lot of things and deserves some credit here as I am sure Frost would give him, and was failing under Torts. This is FACT, not opinion. If you want to find the post I made about Frost and read the context in which I posted it, have at it, otherwise STFU!

The fact is you don't have direct quotes because they don't exist. For example, I NEVER said ND deserves to play over Frost. What I said is ND is a 4th liner with a specific role on the team, a role that Frost should NEVER be put in. For Frost to be in the lineup, he needs to playing in the top 6 and generating offense. These are two different players with two very different roles. I would expect anyone who watches hockey to understand this, but apparently you are just plain stupid.
- jd250

I know this, and again, no need for the name calling junk. ND's minutes, with a reduction in other players minutes by a minute, would have been more than enough minutes for Frost to play. this has been explained to you constantly. No one is saying put Frost in ND's position, but ND's minutes can be used elsewhere in the lineup. Minutes, not position

And finally, I have posted a ton of positive things about Frost, his speed, his skill, his vision his puck retrieval on the PP, etc, etc. The only criticism I have given Frost this year has been about his consistency, game in game out, shift after shift. I think Torts said it perfectly, sometimes Frost just does not bring his A game, and unfortunately for Frost given the type of player he is, if he doesn't bring his A game, he is pretty much invisible out there.

And BTW, I am calling you names here because 1. they accurately reflect what you are and 2. because you absolutely deserve it.
- jd250

1. I am not a liar. You don't know me. How dare you.
2. I stand by my post. You change what you say constantly on here. Even Bill has stepped in and told you you are wrong and that you keep standing on this, and that he doesn't know where you get you info from, but it is wrong.

I am not the only one who has said the exact things here. I am not going back searching posts. I don't have to, as others know what you said, that you change the goal posts (read that on here with you all the time.). You views on Frost come from Torts, and you have had others telling you for a couple of years now, that your views are biased and unfounded.

Disagree with my opinion, but your little rant was uncalled for.

And name calling? Really?

And the AHL and Frost comment....you just posted a pic of him as a Phantom yesterday..saying it looked good on him....!?!?!?!?!?!?!

3) Stop listening to Torts.

1. I am not a liar. You don't know me. How dare you.
2. I stand by my post. You change what you say constantly on here. Even Bill has stepped in and told you you are wrong and that you keep standing on this, and that he doesn't know where you get you info from, but it is wrong.

I am not the only one who has said the exact things here. I am not going back searching posts. I don't have to, as others know what you said, that you change the goal posts (read that on here with you all the time.). You views on Frost come from Torts, and you have had others telling you for a couple of years now, that your views are biased and unfounded.

Disagree with my opinion, but your little rant was uncalled for.

And name calling? Really?

And the AHL and Frost comment....you just posted a pic of him as a Phantom yesterday..saying it looked good on him....!?!?!?!?!?!?!
- TheFreak

The picture I posted yesterday of Frost in his younger days as a Phantom was meant to be a joke, but of course a moron like you wouldn't get it!

I responded to Bill and to you again with the link, read it and weep! The fact is when TK has been on the ice this season, the Flyers have generated more than 600 scoring chances. When Frost is on the ice, barely half of the scoring chances have been generated. FACT, not opinion.

You're the one that wants to be a smart-ass and say I posted this, and I posted that .. so prove it, show me the posts in full context .. or like I said .. STFU!

The fact is I have been posting what I thought Frost needed to do to be an effective NHL player for over two seasons now, and it's almost word for word what Bill posted in his blog today.

You are completely wrong here .. AGAIN .. and downright lying on top of it. First of all, I NEVER said Frost was an AHLer. What I posted in the first part of last season was I was afraid Frost may be nothing more than an AHLer, BECAUSE of the way he was playing. I was afraid that he may never get what it takes to become a viable NHL player. This is after he sucked under AV, sucked under Mike Yeo, who worked with Frost on a lot of things and deserves some credit here as I am sure Frost would give him, and was failing under Torts. This is FACT, not opinion. If you want to find the post I made about Frost and read the context in which I posted it, have at it, otherwise STFU!


- jd250

You are 100% lying. You repeatedly said that Frost will never be more than an AHL player. There are numerous witnesses to this. Your facts are false. You've never been right about Frost on anything.

The fact is you don't have direct quotes because they don't exist. For example, I NEVER said ND deserves to play over Frost. What I said is ND is a 4th liner with a specific role on the team, a role that Frost should NEVER be put in. For Frost to be in the lineup, he needs to playing in the top 6 and generating offense. These are two different players with two very different roles. I would expect anyone who watches hockey to understand this, but apparently you are just plain stupid.

And finally, I have posted a ton of positive things about Frost, his speed, his skill, his vision his puck retrieval on the PP, etc, etc. The only criticism I have given Frost this year has been about his consistency, game in game out, shift after shift. I think Torts said it perfectly, sometimes Frost just does not bring his A game, and unfortunately for Frost given the type of player he is, if he doesn't bring his A game, he is pretty much invisible out there.

And BTW, I am calling you names here because 1. they accurately reflect what you are and 2. because you absolutely deserve it.
- jd250

Now not only are you completely inaccurate concerning Frost but now you're becoming obstinate and arrogant. It is an ignorant statement to say that if Frost doesn't bring his A game, he is pretty much invisible. There are umpteen examples of you stating that Frost had a bad game or was invisible only to be proven wrong by the facts. You now getting personal with people, just makes you look like a bigger jackass. If I was you, I would take a break and reassess. You've been repeatedly called out for your ignorance by numerous people, including the blogger.

I already did this today. You have been exposed as a 100% fraud and I for one am not letting you ever live it down!
- jd250

You live in your own little fantasy world, don't you? This is not going to help you. I'm legitimately beginning to feel pity for you. You've been so beaten down that you honestly have no clue what you're doing to yourself.

rent free 😂

You live in your own little fantasy world, don't you? This is not going to help you. I'm legitimately beginning to feel pity for you. You've been so beaten down that you honestly have no clue what you're doing to yourself.
- MJL

Oh no, it is you who live in fantasy land. The same fantasy land that has you believing Torts does not know how to coach offense, or how to develop young players, or how irrational he is. You know nothing about playing hockey because you have never actually played it, and you certainly know even less about how to coach people or teams, because I am sure you have never done that either. You repeatedly over the years have stated my observations about Frost were made up fantasies, from his need to be more assertive, not stay on the perimeter, move this feet and not coast, shoot more, improve his faceoffs etc. But here today has been presented irrefutable proof that *everything* I have said about Frost is 100% accurate, and that the only fraud in his own fantasy land is you!

No way are the Pens selling. Ownership has tripled down on their strategy.
- StepfordSam

Their terrible strategy

Now not only are you completely inaccurate concerning Frost but now you're becoming obstinate and arrogant. It is an ignorant statement to say that if Frost doesn't bring his A game, he is pretty much invisible. There are umpteen examples of you stating that Frost had a bad game or was invisible only to be proven wrong by the facts. You now getting personal with people, just makes you look like a bigger jackass. If I was you, I would take a break and reassess. You've been repeatedly called out for your ignorance by numerous people, including the blogger.
- MJL

You, who are on this forum 24/7 arguing with multiple posters for hours on end, are telling me to take a break and reassess?? Are you freak'n kidding me? It's one thing for me to have to deal with your ignorance every day, but I am not going to take out-right lies from some nobody who is obviously even dumber and lower than you are.

I responded to Bill and to you again with the link, read it and weep! The fact is when TK has been on the ice this season, the Flyers have generated more than 600 scoring chances. When Frost is on the ice, barely half of the scoring chances have been generated. FACT, not opinion.


- jd250

You're showing your ignorance here. In all situations, Konecny has played 398.73 more minutes of ice time than Frost has. Based on Konecny's average ice time per game, it is the equivalent of Konecny playing 20 more games than Frost has. You're trying to use raw counts because you don't know any better and have no clue on how to use simple stats

The fact is I have been posting what I thought Frost needed to do to be an effective NHL player for over two seasons now, and it's almost word for word what Bill posted in his blog today.
- jd250

This is your fantasy imagination at work. Your opinion of Frost is not remotely close to Bill's. Bill has called you out numerous times on your Frost BS including just the other day.

Now not only are you completely inaccurate concerning Frost but now you're becoming obstinate and arrogant. It is an ignorant statement to say that if Frost doesn't bring his A game, he is pretty much invisible. There are umpteen examples of you stating that Frost had a bad game or was invisible only to be proven wrong by the facts. You now getting personal with people, just makes you look like a bigger jackass. If I was you, I would take a break and reassess. You've been repeatedly called out for your ignorance by numerous people, including the blogger.
- MJL

And one more thing. If I watch a Flyers game and I just don't notice Frost out there, then I am going to post as much! I could care less what your spreadsheet or your opinion is. I know more about this game in my pinky nail then you will ever know in a lifetime. Live with that ..Fraud.

You're showing your ignorance here. In all situations, Konecny has played 398.73 more minutes of ice time than Frost has. Based on Konecny's average ice time per game, it is the equivalent of Konecny playing 20 more games than Frost has. You're trying to use raw counts because you don't know any better and have no clue on how to use simple stats



This is your fantasy imagination at work. Your opinion of Frost is not remotely close to Bill's. Bill has called you out numerous times on your Frost BS including just the other day.
- MJL

You know why TK has played more than Frost? Because TK is a much, much better hockey player. If Frost keeps playing well, he'll get his minutes. Why so much time and energy is devoted to a player like Frost is beyond me. The crusade for this kid has got to end already.

Oh no, it is you who live in fantasy land. The same fantasy land that has you believing Torts does not know how to coach offense, or how to develop young players, or how irrational he is. You know nothing about playing hockey because you have never actually played it, and you certainly know even less about how to coach people or teams, because I am sure you have never done that either. You repeatedly over the years have stated my observations about Frost were made up fantasies, from his need to be more assertive, not stay on the perimeter, move this feet and not coast, shoot more, improve his faceoffs etc. But here today has been presented irrefutable proof that *everything* I have said about Frost is 100% accurate, and that the only fraud in his own fantasy land is you!
- jd250

There has been zero proof presented today that everything you have stated about Frost is 100% accurate. This is another hallucination on your part. You have a reading comprehension issue. No where in the blog did it state that Frost still has an issue moving his feet. You just want to believe it is there.

Tortorella doesn't know how to coach offense. That's self admitted by him. There is boatloads of evidence of his failure with players that have gone onto success elsewhere. He is not a good developer of young talent. Never has been.

You, who are on this forum 24/7 arguing with multiple posters for hours on end, are telling me to take a break and reassess?? Are you freak'n kidding me? It's one thing for me to have to deal with your ignorance every day, but I am not going to take out-right lies from some nobody who is obviously even dumber and lower than you are.
- jd250

It's not an outright lie. You stated that Frost will never be more than an AHL player numerous times.

There has been zero proof presented today that everything you have stated about Frost is 100% accurate. This is another hallucination on your part. You have a reading comprehension issue. No where in the blog did it state that Frost still has an issue moving his feet. You just want to believe it is there.

Tortorella doesn't know how to coach offense. That's self admitted by him. There is boatloads of evidence of his failure with players that have gone onto success elsewhere. He is not a good developer of young talent. Never has been.
- MJL

Really, so Torts is not a good developer of young talent? Hmmm .. So Tippet, Ersson, Cates, Zamula, York, Foerster, this is not young talent? Are they not flourishing under Torts? How about pseudo young talent then, like TK, Frost, Farabee? Are they not flourishing under Torts? Oh, that's right .. we should just ignore this and believe that these players are performing in spite of Torts, not in any way because of him.

Do you have any bridges to try to sell me, because the crap coming from you can be detected miles away.

For the love of God, does everything that happens to the Flyers impact poor Morgan Frost??
- jd250

Well now.. we need to debate this question for the the next 3 years.

It's not an outright lie. You stated that Frost will never be more than an AHL player numerous times.
- MJL

Again, show me and everyone the post. I can say this because I know you can't do it. I already explained, for the millionth time, what I posted and the context of the post. If you just want to continue to lie and prove what I know, and so many others on this forum know, that you are nothing but a fraud, be my guest. I posted in the first part of last season that after seeing Frost play for parts of 3 seasons, I just didn't see it in him. The talent was there, but the drive was not. I'm actually happy for him and the team that he is playing well, but you just keep spewing the same stupid crap over and over and over again. It is you that does not want to have a conversation, you just want to come on this forum and act like you are the big fish in the pond .. well, sorry to tell you this, you are not even close.

Or………how Torts has coached Frost has worked. Two years in a row now.

And one more thing. If I watch a Flyers game and I just don't notice Frost out there, then I am going to post as much! I could care less what your spreadsheet or your opinion is. I know more about this game in my pinky nail then you will ever know in a lifetime. Live with that ..Fraud.
- jd250

You're incapable of properly assessing anything in the sport of hockey. That has been proven with the public record of your posting for years. You can boast all you want. Your posting history says otherwise. Here are a few examples just off the top of my head.

"Fletcher has put the team on the definition of the path to the Stanley Cup"
"Ristolainen is the Flyers best defenseman and one of the best in the NHL"
"Charlie McAvoy is not one of the best defenseman in the NHL"
"I'd take Konecny over Pasternak and there are numerous hockey people who agree with me"
"Tortorella is hands down the Jack Adams award winner"
" Giroux is a fraud and screwed the Flyers. Fletcher was fleeced in the deal for only getting a 1st and a prospect in Tippett who can't hold down a spot in the lineup"
"Carter Hart is as good if not better that Connor Hellebuyck"
"Farabee will never be more than a 3rd line player"

These are just a few examples of your hockey knowledge. As well as an exhibited complete lack of knowledge about anything in the game of hockey, including player assessment, any understanding of hockey strategy or systems. Yet you repeatedly claim that others have never played the game, without having the common sense that just making that statement makes you look like an ass.

You know why TK has played more than Frost? Because TK is a much, much better hockey player. If Frost keeps playing well, he'll get his minutes. Why so much time and energy is devoted to a player like Frost is beyond me. The crusade for this kid has got to end already.
- jd250

No poop, Konecny is a better player.

Again, show me and everyone the post. I can say this because I know you can't do it. I already explained, for the millionth time, what I posted and the context of the post. If you just want to continue to lie and prove what I know, and so many others on this forum know, that you are nothing but a fraud, be my guest. I posted in the first part of last season that after seeing Frost play for parts of 3 seasons, I just didn't see it in him. The talent was there, but the drive was not. I'm actually happy for him and the team that he is playing well, but you just keep spewing the same stupid crap over and over and over again. It is you that does not want to have a conversation, you just want to come on this forum and act like you are the big fish in the pond .. well, sorry to tell you this, you are not even close.
- jd250

There are numerous witnesses to the post. Numerous posters call you out on it when you spew your rhetoric concerning Frost.

Really, so Torts is not a good developer of young talent? Hmmm .. So Tippet, Ersson, Cates, Zamula, York, Foerster, this is not young talent? Are they not flourishing under Torts? How about pseudo young talent then, like TK, Frost, Farabee? Are they not flourishing under Torts? Oh, that's right .. we should just ignore this and believe that these players are performing in spite of Torts, not in any way because of him.

Do you have any bridges to try to sell me, because the crap coming from you can be detected miles away.
- jd250

No he's not. That has been proven over his career. It is not his strength. Especially with offensive players.