so what do you think Seeler should get money and term wise?
- hello it's me 2050

Seeler's earning just barely a tick above league minimum. But the cards are also in his hand as he's UFA. I think if the Flyers can lock him into something around 3-3.5M for 3-4 years would be tremendous and I absolutely pull the trigger if I'm Briere. Unfortunately I see his contract landing closer to 4-5M. Seeler's a tough one because his value couldn't be any higher than it is exactly right now. Might be in the Flyers best interest to take that peak value and try and land a 1st for it.

So, when are we gonna start seeing these trade chips sitting for multiple games like we saw last year? Risto in rumors now out for a month so probably not tradable. Will Laughts, Walker, Seeler be rested? Will be interesting to see. It was so ridiculous last year when Chychrun sent for a couple weeks.
- mikeyo27

After the stadium series, the Flyers have one game over the next 6 days against Chicago. There will be plenty of practice time. Seems to me that would be the best time to move Laughton since the market is already set for center and whoever they replace him with will have time to get up to speed.

After the stadium series, the Flyers have one game over the next 6 days against Chicago. There will be plenty of practice time. Seems to me that would be the best time to move Laughton since the market is already set for center and whoever they replace him with will have time to get up to speed.
- psuhockey

What do you think is the best return the Flyers would be able to obtain dealing Laughton at the TDL? From a rebuilding standpoint, a 1st or a 2nd and perhaps an established NHL'er? With the Flyers currently in a playoff spot and Laughton's contract being very good bang/buck value and signed for 2 more season until he's a UFA I don't think there's a rush from Briere's perspective. If you look around the league and the rumored players on the "trading block" there's a dearth of centers on that list and not one that would make sense from a player-for-player kind of swap. I think the Flyers should see what they can land for Walker but that price won't be established until Noah Hanifan is moved (IMO).

so what do you think Seeler should get money and term wise?
- hello it's me 2050

$3M AAV for 2 years. I say 2 years because the Flyers have extended Frost and Poehling the same term. It looks like the Flyers are planning a big assessment point after the 2025-2026 season, Perhaps the cap will be significantly different in that time frame also. As of now, the Flyers have only 4 players extended beyond 2025-2026, Couts, Farabee, Tippet, and Sanheim (assuming Risto is gone before then).

We would have to eat some of the salary. With the rebuild I just don’t see the point or benefit if we have to pay or spice up the trade to move him.
- Peter Richards

Maybe take a bad salary back instead. That way you can get a 2nd for Risto. I can see him having some value in the playoffs where you can mug someone and not get called. The reality is physical dmen are better suited for the playoffs.

$3M AAV for 2 years. I say 2 years because the Flyers have extended Frost and Poehling the same term. It looks like the Flyers are planning a big assessment point after the 2025-2026 season, Perhaps the cap will be significantly different in that time frame also. As of now, the Flyers have only 4 players extended beyond 2025-2026, Couts, Farabee, Tippet, and Sanheim (assuming Risto is gone before then).
- jd250

I would do that in heartbeat

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What do you think is the best return the Flyers would be able to obtain dealing Laughton at the TDL? From a rebuilding standpoint, a 1st or a 2nd and perhaps an established NHL'er? With the Flyers currently in a playoff spot and Laughton's contract being very good bang/buck value and signed for 2 more season until he's a UFA I don't think there's a rush from Briere's perspective. If you look around the league and the rumored players on the "trading block" there's a dearth of centers on that list and not one that would make sense from a player-for-player kind of swap. I think the Flyers should see what they can land for Walker but that price won't be established until Noah Hanifan is moved (IMO).
- Pixote Andolini

I don't Hanifan will impact Walker. Walker has proven to be a legitimate 2nd pairing, RHS defenseman that plays a more modern NHL game. The asking price of a 1st round pick or a 2nd + prospect is not going to change. I think the Flyers will not be all that sad if they keep Walker to be honest. With Laughton, I doubt the Flyers will get a 1st but I think a 2nd round pick or a young player that needs a change of scenery might be a realistic return.

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- Hextall271

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They tried Risto on the PP earlier this year and to be honest, he didn't look good. Now that Drysdale was acquired and given how good Zamula has look QBing the PP, I really don't see Risto playing on the PP. He does have a good shot but sometimes it's not about how hard your shot is but how often you get the shot through to the goalie. Risto is not good in this area, or I should say, not as good as Drysdale and Zamula.
- jd250

Do you recall that you stated once Ristolainen learned the system and got familiar with it, the points would come for him?

Seeler's earning just barely a tick above league minimum. But the cards are also in his hand as he's UFA. I think if the Flyers can lock him into something around 3-3.5M for 3-4 years would be tremendous and I absolutely pull the trigger if I'm Briere. Unfortunately I see his contract landing closer to 4-5M. Seeler's a tough one because his value couldn't be any higher than it is exactly right now. Might be in the Flyers best interest to take that peak value and try and land a 1st for it.
- Pixote Andolini

If Seeler wants 4-5M, you walk away, quickly. 3 to 3.5M is a bit high. 2.75M for two years if I had my druthers.

I never liked the trade itself. It hurts less because Robert Hagg isn’t even in the league anymore but I remember turning on the draft and the pick was gone when it was our turn, I wasn’t happy.

Salary is a different story. The money he’s being paid is pretty much the same as when we got him. Nobody can deny Risto has improved defensively. The problem is, not giving him enough looks on an already bad power play. I’m not saying Risto should be on the power play, I’m saying the contract looks less bad if he’s there and Risto has a history of showing he can produce in that situation.

It’s a disconnect between GM and coach.
- roenick97

Honestly the only dumb thing at the moment of the trade was the 1st. A 2nd and Haag and it's pretty much whatever for a year.

Then it got worse with the extention.

i want to see Risto parked in front of the goalie on the PP for an extended period.

I don't Hanifan will impact Walker. Walker has proven to be a legitimate 2nd pairing, RHS defenseman that plays a more modern NHL game. The asking price of a 1st round pick or a 2nd + prospect is not going to change. I think the Flyers will not be all that sad if they keep Walker to be honest. With Laughton, I doubt the Flyers will get a 1st but I think a 2nd round pick or a young player that needs a change of scenery might be a realistic return.
- jd250

Of course Hanifan will affect the market for Walker. Teams that are looking for a defenseman are going to be looking at players like Hanifan and Tanev if both are available first over Walker.

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- Phillywhiteout

Toronto did just fine last game without them.

$3M AAV for 2 years. I say 2 years because the Flyers have extended Frost and Poehling the same term. It looks like the Flyers are planning a big assessment point after the 2025-2026 season, Perhaps the cap will be significantly different in that time frame also. As of now, the Flyers have only 4 players extended beyond 2025-2026, Couts, Farabee, Tippet, and Sanheim (assuming Risto is gone before then).
- jd250

do you think seeler is a top 4 dman or better served on the bottom pair?

bad assumption on RR.

I don't Hanifan will impact Walker. Walker has proven to be a legitimate 2nd pairing, RHS defenseman that plays a more modern NHL game. The asking price of a 1st round pick or a 2nd + prospect is not going to change. I think the Flyers will not be all that sad if they keep Walker to be honest. With Laughton, I doubt the Flyers will get a 1st but I think a 2nd round pick or a young player that needs a change of scenery might be a realistic return.
- jd250

I think Hanifan getting moved at the TDL absolutely will set the prices for defenseman moved. Obviously Hanifan is a top pair player and Walker is not, I still think the price is set with his deal (if he's dealt at all). Of course Walker could end up getting moved before Hanifan does or not at all. With the projection of Laughton only returning a 2nd round pick and young NHL-calibre player, it isn't worth it at the moment IMO with the Flyers chasing down a playoff spot and exceptionally barren at the center position. The Flyers are also pretty stacked with draft picks for this summer's draft. Two 1st's and possibly two 2nd round picks (depending on what CBJ decides, could be this draft year or the following draft).

Of course Hanifan will affect the market for Walker. Teams that are looking for a defenseman are going to be looking at players like Hanifan and Tanev if both are available first over Walker.
- MJL

Hanifan is going to get a haul, therefore I do not believe he is going to negatively impact Walker's value. Walker has more offensive upside than Tanev, and thus I don't see Tanev as a threat. There are more contending teams looking to sure up their defense than top defenseman available. Walker will be fine.

If Seeler wants 4-5M, you walk away, quickly. 3 to 3.5M is a bit high. 2.75M for two years if I had my druthers.
- MJL

Would love a 2 years @2.75M but unfortunately my gut thinks it'll land closer to 3.5-4. If it came down to it I think the highest I'd be willing to pay for Seeler is about 3-3.25. Anything more than that definitely walk away.

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Hanifan is going to get a haul, therefore I do not believe he is going to negatively impact Walker's value. Walker has more offensive upside than Tanev, and thus I don't see Tanev as a threat. There are more contending teams looking to sure up their defense than top defenseman available. Walker will be fine.
- jd250

He affects Walker due to taking a team out of the mix. Tanev has more value as a playoff add then Walker does. Tanev is a significantly better player than Walker is, and is the perfect type of defenseman to add for the playoffs due to being one of the top defenders in the league. Walker does not bring enough offense to off set that.

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- NC Flyers Fan

Agreed.

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Would love a 2 years @2.75M but unfortunately my gut thinks it'll land closer to 3.5-4. If it came down to it I think the highest I'd be willing to pay for Seeler is about 3-3.25. Anything more than that definitely walk away.
- Pixote Andolini

My problem with keeping Seeler is he blocks, yes I said blocks even though Flyers talking heads don’t like the word, youth. I trade him unless it is below 3x3. He is a steady Eddy but was a 6/7th or AHL player before last year.

Would love a 2 years @2.75M but unfortunately my gut thinks it'll land closer to 3.5-4. If it came down to it I think the highest I'd be willing to pay for Seeler is about 3-3.25. Anything more than that definitely walk away.
- Pixote Andolini

I don’t necessarily think Seeler will command much more than 3. I know we are all hoping for a 1st for Walker. I was hoping we could move Risto and have Walker-Seeler as a third pair but I think that ship has sailed.

Who knows, they may keep Walker with the mindset that they can move Risto in the offseason which I could live with. We all have to come to terms with the fact that they aren’t going to just give anyone away at this stage of the season whether we like it or not. Won’t be surprised if Walker and Laughton are here for that “miracle playoff run”

I can live with not moving anyone until the offseason as long as we don’t spend assets to add anyone. My thought is if they don’t get a first for either Walker or Laughton then they aren’t trading them. Risto injury may have thrown a wrench in the plans for the TDL, but as EF said, Risto is more likely an offseason deal - might not be a good idea to throw him in the mix mid-season without a training camp to see how he slots.