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psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Feb 15 @ 2:18 PM ET
What do you think is the best return the Flyers would be able to obtain dealing Laughton at the TDL? From a rebuilding standpoint, a 1st or a 2nd and perhaps an established NHL'er? With the Flyers currently in a playoff spot and Laughton's contract being very good bang/buck value and signed for 2 more season until he's a UFA I don't think there's a rush from Briere's perspective. If you look around the league and the rumored players on the "trading block" there's a dearth of centers on that list and not one that would make sense from a player-for-player kind of swap. I think the Flyers should see what they can land for Walker but that price won't be established until Noah Hanifan is moved (IMO).
- Pixote Andolini

I think Laughton would get a 1st easily. He is the exact type of player GMs overpay for at the deadline. The question is do the Flyers only want a 1st round pick or do they want a young prospect in return particularly at center. The other question is who takes over for center on the Flyers once Laughton is gone? Cates? Desnoyer gets called up? Without knowing what young centers may be available it’s hard to know what the Flyers could get in a Laughton deal. I don’t think they trade him if it’s just a 1st round pick though.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 15 @ 2:19 PM ET
My problem with keeping Seeler is he blocks, yes I said blocks even though Flyers talking heads don’t like the word, youth. I trade him unless it is below 3x3. He is a steady Eddy but was a 6/7th or AHL player before last year.
- coffee junkie

what youth is he blocking?

what he was before doesn't matter much.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Feb 15 @ 2:21 PM ET
My problem with keeping Seeler is he blocks, yes I said blocks even though Flyers talking heads don’t like the word, youth. I trade him unless it is below 3x3. He is a steady Eddy but was a 6/7th or AHL player before last year.
- coffee junkie

IMO at this moment I don't think it's really Seeler that's "blocking" the Flyers youth defenseman. Seeler as a call-up basically rose to the challenge and has gotten better, becoming an everyday NHL'er. Dressing Staal is more of a "block" to the youth IMO. I don't think Andrae or Zamula are a better player to play in Seeler's stead at the moment. I do however, think that both Andrae and Zamula have some upside and would love for them to get into the lineup with more frequency (not that stupid dressing 7dmen nonsense either).
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Feb 15 @ 2:24 PM ET
IMO at this moment I don't think it's really Seeler that's "blocking" the Flyers youth defenseman. Seeler as a call-up basically rose to the challenge and has gotten better, becoming an everyday NHL'er. Dressing Staal is more of a "block" to the youth IMO. I don't think Andrae or Zamula are a better player to play in Seeler's stead at the moment. I do however, think that both Andrae and Zamula have some upside and would love for them to get into the lineup with more frequency (not that stupid dressing 7dmen nonsense either).
- Pixote Andolini


if the Flyers think they have youth already with York, Drysdale and Zamula, I wonder if they see Andrae as a trade chip down the road for a C.

I think Grans looked pretty good when he was up for a few games.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 15 @ 2:26 PM ET
if the Flyers think they have youth already with York, Drysdale and Zamula, I wonder if they see Andrae as a trade chip down the road for a C.
- anti-lame

what kind of quality center do you think they can acquire using Andrae as a trade chip?
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 15 @ 2:31 PM ET
what kind of quality center do you think they can acquire using Andrae as a trade chip?
- hello it's me 2050

Not anyone good lol
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Feb 15 @ 2:31 PM ET
what kind of quality center do you think they can acquire using Andrae as a trade chip?
- hello it's me 2050


I'm not sure but I don't think he'd be centerpiece obviously. We are deeper at D than C so I'm thinking more of prospect swapping - I'm not saying Andrae by himself is going to get you any current NHLer unless it's part of a bigger deal.

With Sanheim locked up and Zamula, York and Drysdale likely not going anywhere you quickly run out of spots for these prospects. Need a young C prospect. No reason to think that can't happen.

I like Grans tools. 6'3 right handed Swede. Who knows, maybe he's the one you deal.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 15 @ 2:31 PM ET
just noticed laughton got the A, I guess he's not getting traded and we're going for it
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 15 @ 2:36 PM ET
Not anyone good lol
- ClaudeFather

yeah, peeps crack me up
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Feb 15 @ 2:37 PM ET
yeah, peeps crack me up
- hello it's me 2050


you're right, trading a D prospect for a C prospect is just outlandish and unheard of
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 15 @ 2:38 PM ET
I'm not sure but I don't think he'd be centerpiece obviously. We are deeper at D than C so I'm thinking more of prospect swapping - I'm not saying Andrae by himself is going to get you any current NHLer unless it's part of a bigger deal.

With Sanheim locked up and Zamula, York and Drysdale likely not going anywhere you quickly run out of spots for these prospects. Need a young C prospect. No reason to think that can't happen.

I like Grans tools. 6'3 right handed Swede. Who knows, maybe he's the one you deal.

- anti-lame

if prospects are good enough more than likely they will find a way to get in the lineup.

Do not think the flyers are 100% sold on Zamula at all. Looks ok nothing special by any means.

hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 15 @ 2:39 PM ET
you're right, trading a D prospect for a C prospect is just outlandish and unheard of

- anti-lame

yeah a low level center prospect. big fn deal.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Feb 15 @ 2:40 PM ET
yeah a low level center prospect. big fn deal.
- hello it's me 2050


or we could have no center prospects. sounds even better.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 15 @ 2:40 PM ET
He affects Walker due to taking a team out of the mix. Tanev has more value as a playoff add then Walker does. Tanev is a significantly better player than Walker is, and is the perfect type of defenseman to add for the playoffs due to being one of the top defenders in the league. Walker does not bring enough offense to off set that.
- MJL

Even if you are right about Tanev, the most important factor is there are more contenders looking for defense help than there are top defenders that will be available, at least as of now. So if only two contending teams were looking for defense help, then Walker would sure be impacted. However, the last I checked there are as many as 10 teams looking for defense help at this deadline. If true, Walker will not be impacted.
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Feb 15 @ 2:40 PM ET
if the Flyers think they have youth already with York, Drysdale and Zamula, I wonder if they see Andrae as a trade chip down the road for a C.

I think Grans looked pretty good when he was up for a few games.

- Bill's little boy

Man, I must've missed that Grans call-up. You OK, little Frankie? Bump your head? Need daddy to step in and start writing your comments?
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Feb 15 @ 2:42 PM ET
Man, I must've missed that Grans call-up. You OK, little Frankie? Bump your head? Need daddy to step in and start writing your comments?
- TobyFlenderson


another great contribution to the conversation


2 preseason games this year. try to keep up
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 15 @ 2:43 PM ET
if prospects are good enough more than likely they will find a way to get in the lineup.

Do not think the flyers are 100% sold on Zamula at all. Looks ok nothing special by any means.

- hello it's me 2050

The biggest problem with Zamula is he does not stop plays well and his coverage in the slot area is spotty. He is great with the puck, poised, makes good decisions, but especially on a Torts team, he needs to kill plays more effectively.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Feb 15 @ 2:45 PM ET
The biggest problem with Zamula is he does not stop plays well and his coverage in the slot area is spotty. He is great with the puck, poised, makes good decisions, but especially on a Torts team, he needs to kill plays more effectively.
- jd250


even better, we have Zamula, Andrae and Grans. If we are a rebuilding team we want an affordable, manageable C prospect to fit the timeline. it's not that complicated. some people just want to be contrarians I guess.

TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Feb 15 @ 2:50 PM ET
Jarmo Canned In Columbus; JD Takes Over As Interim

Your worst nightmare folks, I'm taking over the Blue Jackets

- jd250


Or, it might work to our favour....we could trade you TK for Fantilli and call it a day..lol

Just Razing.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 15 @ 2:51 PM ET
even better, we have Zamula, Andrae and Grans. If we are a rebuilding team we want an affordable, manageable C prospect to fit the timeline. it's not that complicated. some people just want to be contrarians I guess.
- anti-lame

they aint rebuilding.
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Feb 15 @ 2:51 PM ET
just noticed laughton got the A, I guess he's not getting traded and we're going for it
- 2Real

yeah, I mentioned that...rebuild? what rebuild...
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 15 @ 2:51 PM ET
Or, it might work to our favour....we could trade you TK for Fantilli and call it a day..lol

Just Razing.

- TheFreak

I'll do that trade if you take Laine also.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Feb 15 @ 2:52 PM ET
they aint rebuilding.
- hello it's me 2050


yeah you've mentioned this
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 15 @ 2:54 PM ET
yeah, I mentioned that...rebuild? what rebuild...
- TheFreak

I don't get this post. Laughton was already the only player with a letter, so nothing has changed from yesterday to today. Before yesterday, Laughton was projected to be potentially available for the right price, and today nothing has changed. So why is the rebuild cancelled because Laughton still has an 'A' on his sweater?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 15 @ 2:55 PM ET
Even if you are right about Tanev, the most important factor is there are more contenders looking for defense help than there are top defenders that will be available, at least as of now. So if only two contending teams were looking for defense help, then Walker would sure be impacted. However, the last I checked there are as many as 10 teams looking for defense help at this deadline. If true, Walker will not be impacted.
- jd250


Yea, you're wrong. You're thinking narrowly. The top players available always set the market. It's not about if Walker can be traded. It's about what for and better players available effect that. Versus if Walker was the best defenseman available.
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