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jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 15 @ 2:55 PM ET
they aint rebuilding.
- hello it's me 2050

So if you are right and the Flyers are not rebuilding, then its a reasonable expectation that the Flyers will add players at the deadline, right?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 15 @ 2:56 PM ET
Or, it might work to our favour....we could trade you TK for Fantilli and call it a day..lol

Just Razing.

- TheFreak


He can have Tortorella and Ristolainen also.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Feb 15 @ 2:56 PM ET
I don't get this post. Laughton was already the only player with a letter, so nothing has changed from yesterday to today. Before yesterday, Laughton was projected to be potentially available for the right price, and today nothing has changed. So why is the rebuild cancelled because Laughton still has an 'A' on his sweater?
- jd250


you mean stripping the letter off the guy doesn't increase his trade value?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 15 @ 2:57 PM ET
The biggest problem with Zamula is he does not stop plays well and his coverage in the slot area is spotty. He is great with the puck, poised, makes good decisions, but especially on a Torts team, he needs to kill plays more effectively.
- jd250


Zamula is a rookie.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 15 @ 3:07 PM ET
I don't get this post. Laughton was already the only player with a letter, so nothing has changed from yesterday to today. Before yesterday, Laughton was projected to be potentially available for the right price, and today nothing has changed. So why is the rebuild cancelled because Laughton still has an 'A' on his sweater?
- jd250

the good ole right price. aka we aint trading laughton
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 15 @ 3:08 PM ET
So if you are right and the Flyers are not rebuilding, then its a reasonable expectation that the Flyers will add players at the deadline, right?
- jd250

possibly not 100% . as always depends on cost and who is available.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Feb 15 @ 3:10 PM ET
possibly not 100% . as always depends on cost and who is available.
- hello it's me 2050


7:47 am start time for you today, eh? 😂
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Feb 15 @ 3:17 PM ET
Honestly the only dumb thing at the moment of the trade was the 1st. A 2nd and Haag and it's pretty much whatever for a year.

Then it got worse with the extention.

- Pelle31Forever

Never had an issue with the extension. It’s always been about the trade itself. I don’t believe in giving up 1st round picks for role players.

There was always more to squeeze out of Risto, the coaching staff has chosen not to.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 15 @ 3:20 PM ET
So if you are right and the Flyers are not rebuilding, then its a reasonable expectation that the Flyers will add players at the deadline, right?
- jd250


A rebuilding team makes moves to add future assets. A team that stands pat and prioritizes winning and making the playoffs. Is not rebuilding. No matter what they say
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 15 @ 3:21 PM ET
Another great interview today from Torts pregame. He evaluated Frost's performance, positively I might add. However I want to ask everyone here to listen and then decide for yourselves who you should believe regarding Frost's performance, those on this site that try to tell you Frost has played awesome since last year or a coach with 723 career NHL wins and a Stanley Cup. I know who I am listening to.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 15 @ 3:23 PM ET
7:47 am start time for you today, eh? 😂
- anti-lame

was up earlier than usual.

what else you got?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 15 @ 3:23 PM ET
Never had an issue with the extension. It’s always been about the trade itself. I don’t believe in giving up 1st round picks for role players.
- roenick97

no issue giving a 3rd pair dman 5 million + and 5 years?
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Feb 15 @ 3:25 PM ET
no issue giving a 3rd pair dman 5 million + and 5 years?
- hello it's me 2050

Who is better at even strength, Rostolainen or Tony D’Angelo?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 15 @ 3:26 PM ET
Who is better at even strength, Rostolainen or Tony D’Angelo?
- roenick97

what relevance does that have to do with the question that was asked?
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Feb 15 @ 3:28 PM ET
what relevance does that have to do with the question that was asked?
- hello it's me 2050

If you were nearly as smart as you think you are, you’d answer and find out. Last I checked they were teammates last season.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Feb 15 @ 3:29 PM ET
Zamula is a rookie.
- MJL

Exactly. Sure Zamula is seeing sheltered minutes with a bonus of some PP time. He's actually +6 and scoring at a clip that could net him around 30 points for his rookie campaign. Not horrible by any stretch IMO, especially at 12 minutes and change a night.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 15 @ 3:30 PM ET
If you were nearly as smart as you think you are, you’d answer and find out. Last I checked they were teammates last season.
- roenick97

lamont you never fail to disappoint.

much smarter than you. that will never ever change.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 15 @ 3:32 PM ET
A rebuilding team makes moves to add future assets. A team that stands pat and prioritizes winning and making the playoffs. Is not rebuilding. No matter what they say
- MJL

Ok, I buy that explanation. So let me ask you this then, you are the GM of the Flyers and since you are rebuilding you want to trade Sean Walker by the deadline. However, to your disappointment, teams will only give you a 3rd round pick for Walker. Do you trade him anyway because you are in a "rebuild"? Or do you weigh the impact of losing Walker and decide to keep him for the season?
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Feb 15 @ 3:32 PM ET
lamont you never fail to disappoint.

much smarter than you. that will never ever change.

- hello it's me 2050

I sure hope so, grandpa.

No answer. I’m shocked.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 15 @ 3:33 PM ET
No answer. I’m shocked.
- roenick97

you prove day after day you are a dope.

not even entertaining. At least cliff entertains.
Wingdestroyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.27.2020

Feb 15 @ 3:34 PM ET
A rebuilding team makes moves to add future assets. A team that stands pat and prioritizes winning and making the playoffs. Is not rebuilding. No matter what they say
- MJL


OK:

If the Flyers trade Laughton and Walker (OR Seeler) at the deadline….is there any way you can deny the current front office is rebuilding?

That also leaves the offseason, where maybe they also get rid of Atkinson and Risto?

Already got rid of established vets Hayes and Provorov.

AND…AND, if it’s true, don’t forget they were an “A-OK” from Kruger from getting out of Sanheim long term deal.

I fully understand why people might be cautious to get excited about the Flyers brass signaling a rebuild, but there are SO MANY “they are rebuilding”/ “lol, what rebuild?” folks. Some fans are so mad they didn’t tank or didn’t do it their their way” you’re not realizing poop be going on?
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Feb 15 @ 3:34 PM ET
A rebuilding team makes moves to add future assets. A team that stands pat and prioritizes winning and making the playoffs. Is not rebuilding. No matter what they say
- MJL


Eh, I think it can be both. As long as you’re not spending assets. I don’t want to give anyone away. I don’t think dumping anyone for nothing just because they are over a certain age guarantees positive results.

Hypothetically - let’s say they do keep walker and can move Risto in the summer… half your D is young, half are vets. I don’t think that signifies that they aren’t looking toward the future. That’s balance. Will I be mad if Walker goes for a 2nd? No. Will I be mad if you have a Seeler-Walker third pair for a couple years? No. The young guys are getting the bigger minutes in this scenario. Not the end of the world.

If they keep both Risto and Walker than yes, that would be a mistake. I’d rather lose Risto for next to nothing than Walker.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Feb 15 @ 3:35 PM ET
you prove day after day you are a dope.

not even entertaining. At least cliff entertains.

- hello it's me 2050


Who is better at even strength, Rostolainen or Tony D’Angelo?
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Feb 15 @ 3:35 PM ET
was up earlier than usual.

what else you got?

- hello it's me 2050


Should we start counting the hours of posting? For all the sh!t you give MJL for living here - you are here early and often as well 😂
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 15 @ 3:35 PM ET
Another great interview today from Torts pregame. He evaluated Frost's performance, positively I might add. However I want to ask everyone here to listen and then decide for yourselves who you should believe regarding Frost's performance, those on this site that try to tell you Frost has played awesome since last year or a coach with 723 career NHL wins and a Stanley Cup. I know who I am listening to.
- jd250


You refuse to do yourself any favors jd. There is not a single person on this site that has tried to tell anyone that Frost has played awesome. Tortorella is an unreliable source when it comes to Frost. He is biased against Frost and if he had his way, Frost would've been traded last season. I know who you're listening to. He has you wrapped around his finger and again, it shows how easily influenced you are.

Bring me facts, not rhetoric, or anecdotal evidence. When the facts are presented to you, you either don't understand them or ignore them.
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