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jfkst1
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Location: Clackety Clack Joined: 02.09.2015
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Hasn't it been speculated on since last deadline that Hanafin wanted to play in a US market? It seems like this is one of the cases, like Lindholm, that everyone expected the player to leave. |
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wreckage
Florida Panthers |
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Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB Joined: 07.29.2013
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Hasn't it been speculated on since last deadline that Hanafin wanted to play in a US market? It seems like this is one of the cases, like Lindholm, that everyone expected the player to leave. - jfkst1
They were reportedly close to an extension early in the season. They pulled the offer back wanting to see how the season went and by the time they went back to the table he was no longer interested in extending. At least not at the same value they were close on earlier. |
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oldstyle
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Just outside the asylum, ON Joined: 08.19.2013
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DEDDIE
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Calgary Joined: 01.08.2019
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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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Kevin R
Calgary Flames |
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Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen. Joined: 02.10.2010
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Nice Piece Trevor.
https://calgaryhockeynow....uins-hanifin-trade-nonis/ - DEDDIE
Thanks! For discussion’s sake, here is likely what we’d be looking at in terms of a deal with Boston. I leaned on Jimmy Murphy of BHN a bit for working out a solid return. Spent most of yesterday doing write ups on the three players coming back.
To the Boston Bruins
LD – Noah Hanifin
To the Calgary Flames
LD – Matt Grzelcyk
C/W – Matthew Poitras
C/W – Georgii Merkulov |
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K-man25
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Sayulita Joined: 09.02.2014
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This team needs to sell, sell, sell. - Reubenkincade
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K-man25
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Sayulita Joined: 09.02.2014
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5-0 DET.
No KY? - LordHumungous
Sorry to disappoint you. I’ve been painting another rental suite on our property in Sayulita.
Flames sucked a$$ last night, trades can’t happen fast enough.
Canucks losing 4-2 to the Jets is so much more respectable. Not sure if you’re smart enough to realize that they both count as L’s? Anyways you keep being you! |
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Kevin R
Calgary Flames |
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Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen. Joined: 02.10.2010
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Thanks! For discussion’s sake, here is likely what we’d be looking at in terms of a deal with Boston. I leaned on Jimmy Murphy of BHN a bit for working out a solid return. Spent most of yesterday doing write ups on the three players coming back.
To the Boston Bruins
LD – Noah Hanifin
To the Calgary Flames
LD – Matt Grzelcyk
C/W – Matthew Poitras
C/W – Georgii Merkulov - Trevor_Neufeld_
You know Trevor, Grzelcyk would be a cap balancer for the Bruins in this scenario. I dont think Poitras (who I like) & Merkulov is enough, I would want a first in there as well, have Bruins got their 2025 1st? Not sure too lazy to check. I think we can get better as a rental. |
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You know Trevor, Grzelcyk would be a cap balancer for the Bruins in this scenario. I dont think Poitras (who I like) & Merkulov is enough, I would want a first in there as well, have Bruins got their 2025 1st? Not sure too lazy to check. I think we can get better as a rental. - Kevin R
I believe they dealt this year’s first in the Bertuzzi trade last season. You may be right. It might need sweetener. |
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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Clackety Clack Joined: 02.09.2015
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You know Trevor, Grzelcyk would be a cap balancer for the Bruins in this scenario. I dont think Poitras (who I like) & Merkulov is enough, I would want a first in there as well, have Bruins got their 2025 1st? Not sure too lazy to check. I think we can get better as a rental. - Kevin R
Not sure Boston can include their 2025 1st round pick in any deal as it is conditional on their 2024 pick being 11th or later. Believe that might violate NHL trade rules until there is no possibility of that condition being met. Might be possible by the deadline though.
https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/bruins |
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DEDDIE
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Calgary Joined: 01.08.2019
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Thanks! For discussion’s sake, here is likely what we’d be looking at in terms of a deal with Boston. I leaned on Jimmy Murphy of BHN a bit for working out a solid return. Spent most of yesterday doing write ups on the three players coming back.
To the Boston Bruins
LD – Noah Hanifin
To the Calgary Flames
LD – Matt Grzelcyk
C/W – Matthew Poitras
C/W – Georgii Merkulov - Trevor_Neufeld_
I know nothing about Merkulov other than the info in your piece but a 19 year old Poitras would be significant by himslef.
Grzelcyk makes the money work and the Flames could retain on him too and then flip him to a contender (probably gets us a 3rd) looking for D help. |
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K-man25
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Sayulita Joined: 09.02.2014
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You know Trevor, Grzelcyk would be a cap balancer for the Bruins in this scenario. I dont think Poitras (who I like) & Merkulov is enough, I would want a first in there as well, have Bruins got their 2025 1st? Not sure too lazy to check. I think we can get better as a rental. - Kevin R
Someone posted in Flamesnation a proposed trade with the Jets.
Hanifin and Tanev to the Jets
Barlow, Hienola, and a 1st
Interesting?
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K-man25
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Sayulita Joined: 09.02.2014
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I know nothing about Merkulov other than the info in your piece but a 19 year old Poitras would be significant by himslef.
Grzelcyk makes the money work and the Flames could retain on him too and then flip him to a contender looking for D help. - DEDDIE
I hadn’t heard of him either.
There’s no way Grzelcyk signs with us, he be strictly a flip at the trade deadline. Not that that can’t happen but I would hope they’ve done some research beforehand. Conroy has had a very interesting 1st year as a GM. Lots to untangle. |
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DEDDIE
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Calgary Joined: 01.08.2019
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Someone posted in Flamesnation a proposed trade with the Jets.
Hanifin and Tanev to the Jets
Barlow, Hienola, and a 1st
Interesting? - K-man25
The Jets dont have a 2024 1st so it would have to be a 2025 and Hienola is now 22 and its doubtfull he's ever much of an NHL player IMO. |
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K-man25
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Sayulita Joined: 09.02.2014
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The Jets dont have a 2024 1st so it would have to be a 2025 and Hienola is now 22 and its doubtfull he's ever much of an NHL player IMO. - DEDDIE
Projected top 4 but hasn’t had much of a chance in Winnipeg. 2025 1st would be ok, Barlow was wanted by many Flame faithful at the last draft. |
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Squeaky
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Calgary, AB Joined: 06.26.2021
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Thanks! For discussion’s sake, here is likely what we’d be looking at in terms of a deal with Boston. I leaned on Jimmy Murphy of BHN a bit for working out a solid return. Spent most of yesterday doing write ups on the three players coming back.
To the Boston Bruins
LD – Noah Hanifin
To the Calgary Flames
LD – Matt Grzelcyk
C/W – Matthew Poitras
C/W – Georgii Merkulov - Trevor_Neufeld_
This trade doesn't make a lot of sense for either team. Defence is already their biggest strength when you look at the Bruins organization. Centre is a weak spot. Hanifin isn't a big enough upgrade to justify their only centre prospect who's even close to NHL ready. They also shouldn't be extending Hanifin unless he's taking a massive discount. They already have over 20 million a year committed to three defencemen for three more years. They also have Lohrei who plays the same spot as Hanifin and is probably ready to be a top four defenceman.
From the Flame's perspective, Poitras is a nice piece, but Grzelcyk is a UFA and Merkulov might be a bottom-six guy. They should be able to do better than that. The Flames should be after Poitras and Lohrei or Lysell even if they have to add something to sweeten it a bit. |
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wreckage
Florida Panthers |
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Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB Joined: 07.29.2013
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Daniel Tkaczuk, Rico Fata, Oleg Saprykin, Brent Kahn, Chuck Kobasew, Eric Nystrom, Dion Phanuef, Chris Chucko, Matt Pelech, Leland Irving, Michael Backlund, Greg Nemisz, Tim Erixon, Sven Baertschi, Mark Jankowski, Morgan Klimchuk, Emile Poirier, Sean Monahan, Sam Bennett, Matthew Tkachuk, Juuso Valikmaki, Jakob Pelletier, Connor Zary, Matt Coronato, and Samuel Honzek. Those are all the Flames 1st round picks since 97. I'd say you can't judge about 4 of them and they hit on about 7 of them. That makes 14 failures. Not really reaching.
Still wondering where my "reaching" is from here?
2 guys got heavy on me for my criticism of their drafting. Show me where I am wrong in their 1st round selections over the years. They have either given up or failed on most successful, been forced to move one or another, or the others aren't proven yet. A few exceptions in there. |
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DEDDIE
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Calgary Joined: 01.08.2019
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This trade doesn't make a lot of sense for either team. Defence is already their biggest strength when you look at the Bruins organization. Centre is a weak spot. Hanifin isn't a big enough upgrade to justify their only centre prospect who's even close to NHL ready. They also shouldn't be extending Hanifin unless he's taking a massive discount. They already have over 20 million a year committed to three defencemen for three more years. They also have Lohrei who plays the same spot as Hanifin and is probably ready to be a top four defenceman.
From the Flame's perspective, Poitras is a nice piece, but Grzelcyk is a UFA and Merkulov might be a bottom-six guy. They should be able to do better than that. The Flames should be after Poitras and Lohrei or Lysell even if they have to add something to sweeten it a bit. - Squeaky
The Bruins are 4-4-2 in their last 10 and have fallen from 1st overall to a 3 way tie for 4th. They also have given up 16 PP goals in their last 16 games so it seems reasonable to me that they may well be looking to upgrade their blueline & PK.
If you dont think Hani is a big upgrade on Grzelcyk you're in a very small minority. |
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wreckage
Florida Panthers |
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Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB Joined: 07.29.2013
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The Bruins are 4-4-2 in their last 10 and have fallen from 1st overall to a 3 way tie for 4th. They also have given up 16 PP goals in their last 16 games so it seems reasonable to me that they may well be looking to upgrade their blueline & PK.
If you dont think Hani is a big upgrade on Grzelcyk you're in a very small minority. - DEDDIE
Sure Hanifan is an upgrade on Grz, but he is also a increase on pay if they wish to retain him. They have about 32M for 12 players including the need for a 1C. They would be wiser to use their assets and potential space for an upgrade there than their 2-3D when their d is already a strength. |
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Squeaky
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Calgary, AB Joined: 06.26.2021
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The Bruins are 4-4-2 in their last 10 and have fallen from 1st overall to a 3 way tie for 4th. They also have given up 16 PP goals in their last 16 games so it seems reasonable to me that they may well be looking to upgrade their blueline & PK.
If you dont think Hani is a big upgrade on Grzelcyk you're in a very small minority. - DEDDIE
He's not a big enough upgrade to justify the cost or what it means for their future, especially when you factor in he'd probably be playing with McAvoy. MvAvoy is a clear number one, so you don't need as much from his partner. Is he willing to extend in Boston for 5 million a year? If he's not, I don't see how it makes sense for them.
It'd be like when the Flames ruined their team makeup by adding Boumeester when they didn't have the need or the Penguins adding Karlsson to a team with Letang. It's money that should be spent elsewhere.
I can see them wanting a depth guy on the back end, but I doubt they bring in anyone more expensive than a Tanev type. |
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