Pacificgem
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Location: Swedish4Ever, BC Joined: 07.01.2007
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Buffalo - close proximity and relatively cheap tickets for visitors.
A guy can hope, right? - Atomic Wedgie
At this point, considering your options, that's pretty much all you got. |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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Leafs lines at practice
Bertuzzi - Matthews - Domi
McMann - Tavares - Marner
Knies - Holmberg - Nylander
Dewar - Kampf - Reaves
Gregor, Robertson
Rielly - Lyubushkin
Benoit - McCabe
Giordano - Brodie
Edmundson - Timmins
Samsonov
Woll
Jones
Leafs spreading out the stars - bryant
Kind of what I was hoping for tbh. Was thinking that Marner might get put into line 3 but to be fair Nylander is the better choice and mainly for skating. Line 3 will be quicker and line 2 will be better puck handlers. I like it.
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senstroll
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Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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makes sense keeping AM line as is.
plug MM in somewhere else
Matthews has played almost 600 minutes without either of Marner or Nylander on his wing over the last three seasons. In that time, his expected goals percentage is 58.6 percent and the Leafs have outscored opponents 42-21, or 67.1 percent of the goals. With either of Marner or Nylander, his expected goals percentage is 59.7 percent, with 60.2 percent of the goals.
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Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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My expected pancakes is 110% |
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Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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I'm getting an ad on here for 'Luxury Private Rehab' Maybe cause we were talking about Bobby Ryan. |
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Ear Hole
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Location: Halifax Joined: 07.18.2018
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Agree, IO would prefer the Rangers just because it is not Boston or Florida.. Would like variety.. NHL needs to switch up 1-8,2-7,3-6,4-5... or even 1-16,2-15.... - Azuredoom
IF it was the 16 plays 1 format, Leafs would play Florida from the stats as they are today. |
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mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON Joined: 06.22.2015
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From last blog, +/- player evaluation discussion:
That's why the 5v5 numbers are used - that's basically Goals For - Goals Against at 5v5. Noting that defensive play is enhanced by simply being on a line that has the puck more than the opposition or that carries the play and possesses it in the offensive zone. You can watch guys like Domi, Bertuzzi, Nylander and Gregor and recognize that while there are some things they do well, there are a number of defensive postures that they fail at - they don't close tight on an opponent well enough although often when they do, they are beaten in the 1 on 1 - whether it's physical or simply outmaneuvered. Domi and Nylander are both particularly guilty of the one-handed fly-by where you hope to pluck the puck and go - but it fails about 90% of the time, so you end up putting your team at a disadvantage by taking yourself out of position.
In Domi's case he's benefitted from participating well in the possession side. In Nylander's case he's honestly hampered by having a centre who is no longer at the top of his game - but he's further hampered by cheating on the puck way too often. It's hard to blame Gregor - he's just not that good. Bertuzzi is a guy that I find hard to explain. You ever play hockey drunk? You're like all over the ice and you think you're playing well and the rest of your team is looking at you like, "What the Hell is up with you?" . . . This might just be my take, but Bertuzzi is like that. An all effort whirling dervish, and usually WAY out of position as a result.
On the flipside of the criticisms, I have to admit that there's been noticeable growth in the defensive side of a few guys (still a lot of brain farts, but things are improving) - like Knies, Holmberg, and in particular - McMann.
- Monkeypunk
Even just narrowing the scope to 5v5 produces numbers that are hopelessly reductive.
For example, it does not take into consideration strength of opposing lines, strength of linemates, zone starts, etc. It also uses events that are far too rare - goals for/against - to really provide any statistical meaningfulness, which, of course, is why Corsi, Fenwick, et al were created and are only slightly less flawed tools.
We all know that Domi is not a good defensive player. But how can we measure and quantify that lack of defensive prowess? +/- is not that tool and should be thrown into the trash bin. |
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Symba007
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON Joined: 02.26.2007
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IF it was the 16 plays 1 format, Leafs would play Florida from the stats as they are today. - Ear Hole
"We want Florida |
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drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Corn Pop was a bad dude, AB Joined: 06.29.2006
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Jacob Quillan on signing with the Maple Leafs, who were his favourite team growing up: "Just a dream come true. - Santo_44[I'm] just looking forward to the next step and hopefully become a Leaf one day."
He has the PJ's
more importantly, where does he land in the top 40 prospects list |
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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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I'd be hoping for Boston if I were you. - Pacificgem
We want Florida. We want Florida. |
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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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makes sense keeping AM line as is.
plug MM in somewhere else - senstroll
AM line has better defensive numbers with MM. Easier to throw them out for both
O-zone and D-zone starts |
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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Retired, ON Joined: 07.24.2011
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I'm getting an ad on here for 'Luxury Private Rehab' Maybe cause we were talking about Bobby Ryan. - Zezel
You see your DM?
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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Retired, ON Joined: 07.24.2011
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Lots of people coping with the fact that Marner is coming back.
They think he’s going to hurt Matthews’ production.
He’ll turn the freaking frogs gay! |
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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Retired, ON Joined: 07.24.2011
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We want Florida. We want Florida. - Canada Cup
Not the state.
The hockey club.
We want absolutely nothing to do with the state. |
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Whipper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: GalacticStone made avi, AB Joined: 07.04.2006
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Lots of people coping with the fact that Marner is coming back.
They think he’s going to hurt Matthews’ production.
He’ll turn the freaking frogs gay! - Arctic_AARDVARK
I literally don't think there is a single Leaf fan on here that isn't glad to have MM back.
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Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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You see your DM? - Arctic_AARDVARK
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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Retired, ON Joined: 07.24.2011
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I literally don't think there is a single Leaf fan on here that isn't glad to have MM back. - Whipper
Not back riding shotty with Papi tho.
“gOtTa kEeP bErTuZzI wItH MaFyEwSz”
They’re coping. A natural reaction when something you don’t want to happen, is going to happen. |
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Maddox2107
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Canada, ON Joined: 09.04.2007
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"We want Florida - Symba007
First try to make the playoffs |
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Whipper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: GalacticStone made avi, AB Joined: 07.04.2006
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Not back riding shotty with Papi tho.
“gOtTa kEeP bErTuZzI wItH MaFyEwSz”
They’re coping. A natural reaction when something you don’t want to happen, is going to happen. - Arctic_AARDVARK
I mean, it's a nice problem to have. It'd be great to have Mitch dishing to JT and Nylander down on the third like hopefully lighting teams up.
We all know Keefe is going to be doing the blender 2 minutes into Saturdays game anyways.
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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Not back riding shotty with Papi tho.
“gOtTa kEeP bErTuZzI wItH MaFyEwSz”
They’re coping. A natural reaction when something you don’t want to happen, is going to happen. - Arctic_AARDVARK
Not that I don't think Marner isn't going back with Matthews.
But Pittsburgh won a cup by having Crosby/Malkin/Kessel on three different lines, opposing team couldn't defend against them all.
Couldn't it be interesting to see the Leafs try something similar? Having Matthews/Nylander/Marner on three different lines and together on the pp?
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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Retired, ON Joined: 07.24.2011
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I mean, it's a nice problem to have. It'd be great to have Mitch dishing to JT and Nylander down on the third like hopefully lighting teams up.
We all know Keefe is going to be doing the blender 2 minutes into Saturdays game anyways. - Whipper
It’s absolutely not a problem tho!
People are dreaming up this “problem” because they’ll find any reason to hate on Mitch.
This is what it should be.
Domi Matthews Marner
McMann Tavares Nylander
Bertuzzi Holmberg Knies
Dewar Kampf Reaves
If Mitch isn’t on the first line at the start of the game, he will be by the end. |
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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Retired, ON Joined: 07.24.2011
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Not that I don't think Marner isn't going back with Matthews.
But Pittsburgh won a cup by having Crosby/Malkin/Kessel on three different lines, opposing team couldn't defend against them all.
Couldn't it be interesting to see the Leafs try something similar? Having Matthews/Nylander/Marner on three different lines and together on the pp? - Scabeh
The Leafs have enough depth scoring (imo) that they don’t have to spread it out like that.
However, if the top line finds itself getting shutdown in the playoffs, then they’ll have to make adjustments. |
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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The Leafs have enough depth scoring (imo) that they don’t have to spread it out like that.
However, if the top line finds itself getting shutdown in the playoffs, then they’ll have to make adjustments. - Arctic_AARDVARK
It's something they should have done against Montreal back in the day and didn't. So I've remained curious to see it actually happen.
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dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Space for Rent Joined: 08.30.2006
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No, hemp pancakes probably. But I do enjoy a good potato pancake. - Zezel
i had a craving last weekend and made a bunch for dinner |
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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Retired, ON Joined: 07.24.2011
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It's something they should have done against Montreal back in the day and didn't. So I've remained curious to see it actually happen. - Scabeh
At the end of the day I just want this team to win a cup.
I don’t think Keefe is the guy who’ll lead these (frank)ers out of Egypt.
As for the Pens comparison of spreading out the offence, there’s 10 examples for that not being the case with cup winners, for every one example of that happening.
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