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Ben Shelley
Joined: 03.12.2019

Apr 7 @ 2:03 PM ET
Ben Shelley: Islanders shut out Predators, control their own playoff destiny
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Apr 7 @ 5:31 PM ET
Welp, it’s lookin like Varlys team to finish off the season..
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Apr 8 @ 5:57 AM ET
Welp, it’s lookin like Varlys team to finish off the season..
- kindlyrick


It goes back to the days of Arbour when he would ride either Chico or Smitty. Whoever had the hot hand. Would not look too deep into it.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 8 @ 8:27 AM ET
It goes back to the days of Arbour when he would ride either Chico or Smitty. Whoever had the hot hand. Would not look too deep into it.
- Nfdbulldawg


Varly has been sharper. Have to go with the hot hand right now.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 8 @ 11:28 AM ET
Varly has been sharper. Have to go with the hot hand right now.
- ses111

100%. He held the fort in the second when we were getting our butts kicked last game.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Apr 8 @ 2:41 PM ET
It goes back to the days of Arbour when he would ride either Chico or Smitty. Whoever had the hot hand. Would not look too deep into it.
- Nfdbulldawg


Not looking deep into it, I think Varly has outplayed Sorokin. Gotta go with the hot goalie
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 8 @ 5:05 PM ET
Not looking deep into it, I think Varly has outplayed Sorokin. Gotta go with the hot goalie
- kindlyrick


I just hope the Rangers are due for a loss tomorrow.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Apr 8 @ 6:33 PM ET
I just hope the Rangers are due for a loss tomorrow.
- ses111



Being that the Rangers clinched, one would think the isles will be hungrier. 🤷🏻‍♂️
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Apr 8 @ 8:12 PM ET
Not looking deep into it, I think Varly has outplayed Sorokin. Gotta go with the hot goalie
- kindlyrick


I agree. Varly has the hot hand.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Apr 9 @ 6:49 AM ET
Being that the Rangers clinched, one would think the isles will be hungrier. 🤷🏻‍♂️
- kindlyrick


One would think that if the isles want to make the playoffs. They would be starving and acting ravaged dogs.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Apr 9 @ 6:55 AM ET
On another note, why in the world would Bettman consider Atlanta for a potentially third time after the first two have failed? Pick another city for expansion Gary.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 9 @ 8:50 AM ET
On another note, why in the world would Bettman consider Atlanta for a potentially third time after the first two have failed? Pick another city for expansion Gary.
- Nfdbulldawg


This time the Islanders will lose Barzal or Bo in expansion.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Apr 9 @ 8:51 AM ET
Obviously this is a foregone conclusion at this point, but you have to ride Varly.

This will sound a bit crazy, but I'm a little worried the Isles have 'overcoached' Sorokin. During his first two seasons with the Isles, Sorokin lived and died off of his natural instincts, moving as fast from post to post as any goalie I've seen since Felix Potvin. On occasion, this could get him in trouble since he would overslide past the post leaving a bit too much net for the rebound.

You can see this year that Piero Greco clearly worked with Sorokin a lot on being 'more controlled' in his post to post movement. He almost never overslides now. The problem is, that's caused Sorokin to perhaps take a good bit of speed off of his post to post movement for the sake of being more controlled. As a goalie, that type of stuff can creep into your head too. Focusing more on positional play than the puck can be a total mindfuk for some. Based on Sorokin's comments to Rosner recently, he's also being coached to go full aggressive positioning himself into screens more as opposed to backing into the net and relying on his reactions after the tip. He seemed sort of resigned to that one saying (paraphrase) "They're telling me to do that, so that's what I have to do".

It's funny how stuff like that can start to impact other facets of your game, especially when you start to lose confidence. Mitch Korn doesn't work with the goalies and admittingly I don't know much about Greco other than the fact that he had never coached in the NHL before this (he came fromt the Marlies).

It could be a long time before we see Sorokin return to 2022 form.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 9 @ 9:05 AM ET
Obviously this is a foregone conclusion at this point, but you have to ride Varly.

This will sound a bit crazy, but I'm a little worried the Isles have 'overcoached' Sorokin. During his first two seasons with the Isles, Sorokin lived and died off of his natural instincts, moving as fast from post to post as any goalie I've seen since Felix Potvin. On occasion, this could get him in trouble since he would overslide past the post leaving a bit too much net for the rebound.

You can see this year that Piero Greco clearly worked with Sorokin a lot on being 'more controlled' in his post to post movement. He almost never overslides now. The problem is, that's caused Sorokin to perhaps take a good bit of speed off of his post to post movement for the sake of being more controlled. As a goalie, that type of stuff can creep into your head too. Focusing more on positional play than the puck can be a total mindfuk for some. Based on Sorokin's comments to Rosner recently, he's also being coached to go full aggressive positioning himself into screens more as opposed to backing into the net and relying on his reactions after the tip. He seemed sort of resigned to that one saying (paraphrase) "They're telling me to do that, so that's what I have to do".

It's funny how stuff like that can start to impact other facets of your game, especially when you start to lose confidence. Mitch Korn doesn't work with the goalies and admittingly I don't know much about Greco other than the fact that he had never coached in the NHL before this (he came fromt the Marlies).

It could be a long time before we see Sorokin return to 2022 form.

- keaner17


You are hired as the new goalie coach keaner. Something seems off with Sorokin this year and it's not just the defensive play of the team.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Apr 9 @ 9:53 AM ET
You are hired as the new goalie coach keaner. Something seems off with Sorokin this year and it's not just the defensive play of the team.
- ses111



ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 9 @ 10:05 AM ET

- JohnScammo






I guess carrying around all that money can slow Sorokin down.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Apr 9 @ 10:50 AM ET
Andrew Gross
@AGrossNewsday
21h
Report that D Andrea Glauser, 28, of
Lausanne HC in Swiss-A league has reportedly attracted #Isles attention.


ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 9 @ 10:58 AM ET
Andrew Gross
@AGrossNewsday
21h
Report that D Andrea Glauser, 28, of
Lausanne HC in Swiss-A league has reportedly attracted #Isles attention.



- eichiefs9


Lou has to like he is 28. Can we give them Mayfield and Pierre? I would have liked this outside the box thinking from Lou before the deals he gave out to Mayfield and Pierre.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Apr 9 @ 11:19 AM ET
Obviously this is a foregone conclusion at this point, but you have to ride Varly.

This will sound a bit crazy, but I'm a little worried the Isles have 'overcoached' Sorokin. During his first two seasons with the Isles, Sorokin lived and died off of his natural instincts, moving as fast from post to post as any goalie I've seen since Felix Potvin. On occasion, this could get him in trouble since he would overslide past the post leaving a bit too much net for the rebound.

You can see this year that Piero Greco clearly worked with Sorokin a lot on being 'more controlled' in his post to post movement. He almost never overslides now. The problem is, that's caused Sorokin to perhaps take a good bit of speed off of his post to post movement for the sake of being more controlled. As a goalie, that type of stuff can creep into your head too. Focusing more on positional play than the puck can be a total mindfuk for some. Based on Sorokin's comments to Rosner recently, he's also being coached to go full aggressive positioning himself into screens more as opposed to backing into the net and relying on his reactions after the tip. He seemed sort of resigned to that one saying (paraphrase) "They're telling me to do that, so that's what I have to do".

It's funny how stuff like that can start to impact other facets of your game, especially when you start to lose confidence. Mitch Korn doesn't work with the goalies and admittingly I don't know much about Greco other than the fact that he had never coached in the NHL before this (he came fromt the Marlies).

It could be a long time before we see Sorokin return to 2022 form.

- keaner17


I think instead of over coached sOrOkin has been over used. Last year and especially this year with the lack luster defensive play that the Isles showed under Lane.
In the KHL the most he played in a season was 40 games once. He’s played a lot of hockey the last few years and I think it’s affected him.
For me it started against the Canes last year in the PO. While making incredible saves he let in untimely soft goals and it’s continued this year.
I think he’s tired mentally more so than physically and playing Varly might give sOrOkin the time to refresh his game.
It’s been awhile since we have said wow sOrOkin stole that game.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Apr 9 @ 5:47 PM ET
I think instead of over coached sOrOkin has been over used. Last year and especially this year with the lack luster defensive play that the Isles showed under Lane.
In the KHL the most he played in a season was 40 games once. He’s played a lot of hockey the last few years and I think it’s affected him.
For me it started against the Canes last year in the PO. While making incredible saves he let in untimely soft goals and it’s continued this year.
I think he’s tired mentally more so than physically and playing Varly might give sOrOkin the time to refresh his game.
It’s been awhile since we have said wow sOrOkin stole that game.

- nyisles7


If you include the last three 3 years that is 168 games to date and an average of 56 games per season.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Apr 9 @ 5:48 PM ET
Predictions for tonight?

I say the 1st period is the Isles best period. Final score Rags 5 and Isles 2. Rags with the empty netter.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Apr 9 @ 6:09 PM ET
Are we worried?

I really would rather not play you guys in rd 1 lol rd 2 ok, let’s roll
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Apr 9 @ 6:14 PM ET
Are we worried?

I really would rather not play you guys in rd 1 lol rd 2 ok, let’s roll

- Slimtj100


I would rather play Columbus every night. LOL

JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Apr 9 @ 6:15 PM ET
Predictions for tonight?

I say the 1st period is the Isles best period. Final score Rags 5 and Isles 2. Rags with the empty netter.

- Nfdbulldawg

I'll go with a final score of Rags 3 - Isles 2 OT. Panarin with the game winner.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Apr 9 @ 7:03 PM ET
I'll go with a final score of Rags 3 - Isles 2 OT. Panarin with the game winner.
- JohnScammo

5-2 Rags. I'm hoping my negativity causes a karmic reaction, but I think reality strikes tonight
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