You make a very good point but I think part of the selling point to get Fedetov to come over and also be willing to re-sign with the Flyers was the Flyers burning off that one year of 925K by playing him those few games.
- MJL

https://broadstreetbuzz.c...flyers-signs-cska-moscow/

Ivan Fedotov has signed a contract with CSKA Moscow for two years, worth 50 million rubles, or approximately $548,000 in U.S. dollars.

He was making $275k/yr (roughly) in Russia and it wasn't worth his while to play one year on a $925k/yr contract to then become a UFA and get those NHL $$$? I also think that a multiyear 3.25/yr for an unproven NHL goalie is not something he would have turned down no matter the team. I also don't think, that anyone else out there was going to outbid the Flyers.

He is now making 2x as much as the highest paid player in the KHL, guaranteed. My feeling is he played the front office and their combined 1 year special assistant to the GM years of NHL front office experience between them. Desperate people do desperate things.

Anyway, my 2 cents, the Flyers got played. It's funny they were willing to burn for Fed but not Cutter.

Yeah, I got that wrong. Still though. Not enough talent. Isn’t Shaw the architect of the PK? The PP is the other side of the puck. If they are sold on Thompson than why doesn’t Torts have Shaw and Thompson collaborate on making a functional PP? They always preach collaboration.
- Minnyhock

If Rocky can't get a PP w/ dudes like EK, Burns, Meier, Couture, Hertl etc above 14% then he certainly isn't capable of elevating this group.

It's funny, after he stepped down SJ's PP% shot up by 5%.

IMO Brad Shaw isn't really anything special either.

He is now making 2x as much as the highest paid player in the KHL, guaranteed.
- Flyers_01

They don't count "bonuses" in the KHL against their salary cap. The richer teams are tossing bags full of cash at their better players -- off the books.

he was an UFA no matter if he played or not I believe; couldn't be tolled. either way maybe just a good will gesture for future business in Russia
- hello it's me 2050

You may be correct. The IIHF sanctioned him but didn't toll the 2023-2024 year from what i can tell.

Mea culpa.

If Rocky can't get a PP w/ dudes like EK, Burns, Meier, Couture, Hertl etc above 14% then he certainly isn't capable of elevating this group.

It's funny, after he stepped down SJ's PP% shot up by 5%.

IMO Brad Shaw isn't really anything special either.
- Tomahawk

I have no idea why anyone would have the opinion that he’s a good coach in terms of the PP when his track record proves the exact opposite. What evidence is there that he is a good coach/PP coach or that there are things to like about him?

I have no idea why anyone would have the opinion that he’s a good coach in terms of the PP when his track record proves the exact opposite. What evidence is there that he is a good coach/PP coach or that there are things to like about him?
- funmaster18

That he knows more about hockey in his little finger than you do?

That he knows more about hockey in his little finger than you do?
- MJL

God I hope

I thought it was assumed when we talk about whether or not coaches are capable of their job, that it’s in context of other coaches in the same role or similar.

If the benchmark is whether or not they are more qualified than posters on this website then the flyers are far worse worse off than I feared

God I hope

I thought it was assumed when we talk about whether or not coaches are capable of their job, that it’s in context of other coaches in the same role or similar.

If the benchmark is whether or not they are more qualified than posters on this website then the flyers are far worse worse off than I feared
- funmaster18

Well most normal people would view it in that context but this is HB.

Well most normal people would view it in that context but this is HB.
- MJL

All I know is anything less than straight up replacing him as PP coach is pure negligence.

Gauthier wanted to sign and start his NHL career when his NCAA season ended in March of 23. The Flyers declined to do so presumably because they wanted to avoid bonus overages on the 22/23 season cap. The Flyers then attempted to sign him in May of 23 for the 23/24 season. Gauthier the informed them that he didn't want to play for them. Your claim that the Flyers wanted him to play a second college season is not correct.
- MJL

How funny you presume they wanted to avoid bonus overages. Who from the front office has ever said that. Oh nobody? So you can presume because some twit has suggested it but no one can presume they just wanted him to do another year. Gotcha

Maybe I’m missing something but wtf are they doing signing this guy for over 3 million/ season. I know beer league goalies just as good/ bad. This guy was terrible. Christ he just won the lottery.

If Rocky can't get a PP w/ dudes like EK, Burns, Meier, Couture, Hertl etc above 14% then he certainly isn't capable of elevating this group.

It's funny, after he stepped down SJ's PP% shot up by 5%.

IMO Brad Shaw isn't really anything special either.
- Tomahawk

The Wild have a lousy PP coach. Still the PP was at 22.7% this year. They have a few elite PP players. Maybe someone else can make the Flyers marginally better. They need way better players to thrive.

How funny you presume they wanted to avoid bonus overages. Who from the front office has ever said that. Oh nobody? So you can presume because some twit has suggested it but no one can presume they just wanted him to do another year. Gotcha
- Stayin alive

It was reported by reliable sources. I'm not presuming anything.

The Flyers offered Gauthier a contract in May of 2023. As an NCAA player, signing a contract would end his NCAA eligibility. Why would they offer him a contract in May of 2023 if the Flyers wanted him to play another year in college in 23/24?

Just turned on the Rags/Caps game and NAK just took a dumb penalty! Some things never change.

Maybe I’m missing something but wtf are they doing signing this guy for over 3 million/ season. I know beer league goalies just as good/ bad. This guy was terrible. Christ he just won the lottery.
- Keyser soze

You’re not missing anything. This guy has naked pictures of DB

You’re not missing anything. This guy has naked pictures of DB
- Just5

Someone on Flyers Nation just told me that the Flyers promised him this contract to get him to come over. Apparently Charlie O' Connor reported this earlier. Not sure if it's true or not.

How funny you presume they wanted to avoid bonus overages. Who from the front office has ever said that. Oh nobody? So you can presume because some twit has suggested it but no one can presume they just wanted him to do another year. Gotcha
- Stayin alive

He isnt presuming anything. A 2 second search was all it took.

https://www.sportingnews..../5f447ec65424de1aabec7181

Sportsnet's Elliotte Friedman reported that on Tuesday that the issue stemmed from the Flyers not signing Gauthier to a contract last year. Supposedly, the team did not want a bonus overage carrying into the 2023-24 season, and that was enough to upset Gauthier ads his camp.

Friedman is a twit because Mr. "I know Gaudreaus wife" disagrees with him?

STFU

LOL Joe Mullen isn't even coaching in the NHL anymore, hasn't for the past several years. He is not a viable option.
- jd250

You did not ask for a viable option - I answered your question and backed it up with facts. He could always be enticed to come out of retirement.

torts said rocky = great coach/has rapport with forwards so that = good for the PP

So you agree with me. I have posted a number of times that I like Rocky but he has not got the job done, and thus he should be replaced. The Flyers need a new voice. The fact that Torts didn't lead with the Power play as the number 1 reason the Flyers were not a playoff team this year is either pure denial or incompetence. I was disappointed all he said is they are going to talk about it. Talk about it? What were they doing all season long, their taxes?
- jd250

How can a coach, that YOU have stated for the last two seasons should have won the Jack Adams Award be incompetent? Why would such a great coach be in denial? Why couldn't a coach as great as torts fix the issues with the PP?

Is it possible that you evaluated torts skill as a coach incorrectly?

Because they both know how to run a power play, but for whatever reason they both have failed to get this group of players to execute consistently. Maybe we need to look harder at the players? They are the only common denominator.


And speaking of Torts, I couldn't believe he stated they didn't practice 3 on 3 and 4 on 4 enough? Again, what the hell are they doing all season in practice? And again either due to incompetence or denial, didn't mention his approach to 3 on 3 was greatly flawed and needed to be revamped. Unfortunately the one time he had Frost and Drysdale out there, they looked clueless and cost them the game.
- jd250

This is how coaches who are in the running for the Jack Adams Award coach. Why practice important stuff? Effort and accountability baby is all we need to succeed!

Tortorella has heard his supporters loud and clear, especially here on HB. 3 on 3 doesn’t count in the standings and points don’t matter.

So not only did the players not practice OT rules that have been in place for almost 10 years now, the coach didn’t bother coaching it either.

Between this and his coaching tactics are we sure he even knows what year it is?

Tortorella has heard his supporters loud and clear, especially here on HB. 3 on 3 doesn’t count in the standings and points don’t matter.

So not only did the players not practice OT rules that have been in place for almost 10 years now, the coach didn’t bother coaching it either.

Between this and his coaching tactics are we sure he even knows what year it is?
- StepfordSam

2oVb73T^?

He isnt presuming anything. A 2 second search was all it took.

https://www.sportingnews..../5f447ec65424de1aabec7181




Friedman is a twit because Mr. "I know Gaudreaus wife" disagrees with him?

STFU
- MBFlyerfan

Yeah because Friedman knows. Did ihe cite his source? No? Great. So it’s hearsay? Gotcha. Until someone from front office states why they didn’t sign him we simply don’t know for sure.

Could it have been the reason sold to some twits? Sure. But ask yourself what (frank)ing sense does it make? It’s not even logical. They could’ve made any number of moves to have his signing NOT CREATE an overage. It’s a stupid low bar excuse that only a non logical thinking person would accept.

And maybe just maybe they used that excuse with cg but again I ask you how logical is that it would’ve been the real reason when….
1) it would be very very easy to avoid an overage by making simple roster adjustments
2) wouldn’t a team (if they thought player was ready) of cg skill and talent do ANYTHING to make him happy AND get him on roster as fast as possible (if he’s ready).


Makes no sense at all the excuse Friedman says.

It was reported by reliable sources. I'm not presuming anything.

The Flyers offered Gauthier a contract in May of 2023. As an NCAA player, signing a contract would end his NCAA eligibility. Why would they offer him a contract in May of 2023 if the Flyers wanted him to play another year in college in 23/24?
- MJL

Yes surely that was the reason. For the small minded non critical thinking sheep. Only ones that could buy that excuse

How funny you presume they wanted to avoid bonus overages. Who from the front office has ever said that. Oh nobody? So you can presume because some twit has suggested it but no one can presume they just wanted him to do another year. Gotcha
- Stayin alive

https://www.reddit.com/r/...d_is_philly_didnt_want_a/

Word is Philly didn’t want a bonus overage carrying into this season, so they didn’t want to sign Gauthier at the end of last year. They certainly didn’t intend it as any kind of an insult, but things were never the same after this happened.
- Elliotte Friedman