The Bruins really looked like they were running out of gas in that series. I'm hoping Florida loses so the Flyers get a higher pick, but yeah, the Cats prolly win pretty easily from the looks of things. Hopefully playoff Bob from the past shows up and he $hits the bed.
- Phillywhiteout

The Bruins issue isn't running out of gas. It's center play. They don't have a 1C. The Leafs issue is with defenseman. Not in terms of defending but in generating transition play. While criticism is deserved for their top players in not producing enough offense, their real issue is with their defense in my opinion. Things change in the playoffs when you start playing the best teams and checking gets tighter.

I'm not trying to absolve Marner, but is a defensive concept where a winger follows another winger from the blueline to the defensive dot especially with Pasta having a head start? Samsonov just got lost with the puck. It was a perfectly timed play with everything going right for BOS. Fair play to them.

I think this is going to be a busy summer with plenty of hockey trades. Marner will be on the top of the list. Looking forward to it.
- Trox88

Not saying it wad all marner, but he did nothing to get in pastas way, from what I recall he didn't even look at him.

The play was so quick, Toronto's d just couldn't keep up and samsonov did his best but pasta was so quick

The Bruins issue isn't running out of gas. It's center play. They don't have a 1C. The Leafs issue is with defenseman. Not in terms of defending but in generating transition play. While criticism is deserved for their top players in not producing enough offense, their real issue is with their defense in my opinion. Things change in the playoffs when you start playing the best teams and checking gets tighter.
- MJL

Agreed, but the lack scoring is a huge issue for Toronto. Probably why marner and taveras is gone soon

Agreed, but the lack scoring is a huge issue for Toronto. Probably why marner and taveras is gone soon
- WhiskeyMan

I would be shocked if they moved Marner.

Not saying it wad all marner, but he did nothing to get in pastas way, from what I recall he didn't even look at him.

The play was so quick, Toronto's d just couldn't keep up and samsonov did his best but pasta was so quick
- WhiskeyMan

It was a great play for BOS more then TOR meltdown, IMO. Swayman bailed them out in a big way in regulation.

I'm curious where Marner ends up. He has a lot of leverage with his NMC and a year from being a UFA. Leafs probably not going to get a huge return as first thought. Probably in the range the Jets got for Dubois last summer.

Guess it's just stupid logic on your part. Congrats on that dip$hit !
- Phillywhiteout

it is ok to say you do not know as wouldn't be the first time for you

I would be shocked if they moved Marner.
- MJL

well what do you suggest the leafs do this off season? put together a plan and lay it out for the board to discuss.

It was a great play for BOS more then TOR meltdown, IMO. Swayman bailed them out in a big way in regulation.

I'm curious where Marner ends up. He has a lot of leverage with his NMC and a year from being a UFA. Leafs probably not going to get a huge return as first thought. Probably in the range the Jets got for Dubois last summer.
- Trox88

their entire core holds all the cards so speak with NMC.

Does Marner stay to keep up is points totals to cash in on free agency? Or does he want a fresh start for a year?

speaking of PLD, would try to trade ex selke for him. A gamble I would take. if that deal was possible

I would be shocked if they moved Marner.
- MJL

I don’t think they’d get the return many expect with that cap hit. If he wants out, they’ll trade him.

I don’t think they’d get the return many expect with that cap hit. If he wants out, they’ll trade him.
- Minnyhock

I see that as the reason why I don't think they'll trade him. Not being able to get the return they need to justify it. Of course he could force the issue by declaring he will test free agency. Then the Leafs will be forced to move him weakening their position. I'll clarify it with I just don't think the Leafs will want to trade Marner but I could be wrong.

I see that as the reason why I don't think they'll trade him. Not being able to get the return they need to justify it. Of course he could force the issue by declaring he will test free agency. Then the Leafs will be forced to move him weakening their position. I'll clarify it with I just don't think the Leafs will want to trade Marner but I could be wrong.
- MJL

well what do you suggest the leafs do this off season? put together a plan and lay it out for the board to discuss.

so is that similar to the TK situation here?

their entire core holds all the cards so speak with NMC.

Does Marner stay to keep up is points totals to cash in on free agency? Or does he want a fresh start for a year?

speaking of PLD, would try to trade ex selke for him. A gamble I would take. if that deal was possible
- hello it's me 2050

Marner's cap hit is 10.9 million. Have to figure he is going to want at least 13 million/yr. Does TOR give that kind of commitment for 8 years? I just do not think so especially considering Treliving is the GM. He did not build this core.

As far as PLD, he seems to be heading down the Kevin Hayes career. A decent center who for whatever the reason just does not stay with a team for more then a few years. I would pass. For me if Briere wants to take a shot at a center reclamation project Lundell, Perfetti, or Krebs would be a better.

I do not believe Briere will stand pat with Poehling-Frost-Laughton-Coots at center next season. I expect something to be done.

Marner's cap hit is 10.9 million. Have to figure he is going to want at least 13 million/yr. Does TOR give that kind of commitment for 8 years? I just do not think so especially considering Treliving is the GM. He did not build this core.

As far as PLD, he seems to be heading down the Kevin Hayes career. A decent center who for whatever the reason just does not stay with a team for more then a few years. I would pass. For me if Briere wants to take a shot at a center reclamation project Lundell, Perfetti, or Krebs would be a better.

I do not believe Briere will stand pat with Poehling-Frost-Laughton-Coots at center next season. I expect something to be done.
- Trox88

I wouldn't be shocked if both Laughts and Frost are moved. Poehling ain't going anywhere and no one wants that Coots contract.

Marner's cap hit is 10.9 million. Have to figure he is going to want at least 13 million/yr. Does TOR give that kind of commitment for 8 years? I just do not think so especially considering Treliving is the GM. He did not build this core.

As far as PLD, he seems to be heading down the Kevin Hayes career. A decent center who for whatever the reason just does not stay with a team for more then a few years. I would pass. For me if Briere wants to take a shot at a center reclamation project Lundell, Perfetti, or Krebs would be a better.

I do not Briere to stand pat with Poehling-Frost-Laughton-Coots at center next season. I expect something to be done.
- Trox88

krebs is what he is not really interested unless not giving up much as he is a bottom 6 type. Dont see lundell on the block. PErfetti who knows what the jets gonna do. I get the trepidation not wanting PLD.

I also do not see them standing pat at center or D.

Marner aint gonna get 13 imo.

How has the goalie looked shaky? 13 goals against in 5 games with a shutout. only 5 goals against in the last 3 games.

Would love to see Dallas vs Florida.
- TheFreak

Sorry, should have been more specific. Skinner looked shaky during the season and has been pedestrian in past playoffs. I have very little trust in him. I hope I’m wrong.

krebs is what he is not really interested unless not giving up much as he is a bottom 6 type. Dont see lundell on the block. PErfetti who knows what the jets gonna do. I get the trepidation not wanting PLD.

I also do not see them standing pat at center or D.

Marner aint gonna get 13 imo.
- hello it's me 2050

That's fair. I believe Michkov will be here by next summer at the latest. I expect Briere to continue to build the roster around Michkov before he gets here. So I agree with you, Briere will make somewhat significant changes to the roster this summer. I do believe the Zegras rumor that they are interested. No idea if Briere can get the deal over the line.

krebs is what he is not really interested unless not giving up much as he is a bottom 6 type. Dont see lundell on the block. PErfetti who knows what the jets gonna do. I get the trepidation not wanting PLD.

I also do not see them standing pat at center or D.

Marner aint gonna get 13 imo.
- hello it's me 2050

I’d trade Laughton and a 4th for Krebs. Unfortunately, with the Flyers C depth, they need to find a needle in a haystack. But I agree, he is running out of time and is probably just a bad 3rd liner or even 4th liner on a good team.

That's fair. I believe Michkov will be here by next summer at the latest. I expect Briere to continue to build the roster around Michkov before he gets here. So I agree with you, Briere will make somewhat significant changes to the roster this summer. I do believe the Zegras rumor that they are interested. No idea if Briere can get the deal over the line.
- Trox88

What would you trade for Z?

well what do you suggest the leafs do this off season? put together a plan and lay it out for the board to discuss.

so is that similar to the TK situation here?
- hello it's me 2050

Marner for TK

Agreed, but the lack scoring is a huge issue for Toronto. Probably why marner and taveras is gone soon
- WhiskeyMan

Marner has a NMC

Marner has a NMC
- Pelle31Forever

If they tell him he isn’t being resigned, he will waive the NMC

What would you trade for Z?
- coffee junkie

I'm really bad at the hypothetical trade game. 😀 I do believe would want a younger player already in the NHL with term left. Zegras has 2 years left on his deal. My thought process is Verbeek is going to want a player with term who can help and have cap hit certainty. Verbeek has been the GM for 2 years, how many years does he get to finish in the bottom 5? Not sure. I would think Farabee could be involved. Killorn was their top LW last season. Granted, I believe Gauthier will be playing LW for them this season. I would expect the Flyers would have to add a defensive prospect also. Considering this draft appears to be pretty deep with blueline in the top 12, including a Bonk in the deal could be included. However, such a package is on the premise that Zegras stays at center and not moved to wing. Makes no sense to move a young winger for another young winger and other assets.

I see that as the reason why I don't think they'll trade him. Not being able to get the return they need to justify it. Of course he could force the issue by declaring he will test free agency. Then the Leafs will be forced to move him weakening their position. I'll clarify it with I just don't think the Leafs will want to trade Marner but I could be wrong.
- MJL

My gut tells me that Marner will stay next year to put up big numbers with Matthews so that he can hit the market next year with lots of offers.

Barkov, Staal, and Matthews get Selke nominations.

If they tell him he isn’t being resigned, he will waive the NMC
- ClaudeFather

I'm thinking it's Tavares who will be gone and the money they save on that will go to Marner.