Cool. You said what you don't like.

At what point is it acceptable to make a trade or signing to fill holes on your team to make them competitive in the playoffs?
- Chunk

You know what the sad part is, the Kings made the playoffs without Fiala in the 21-22 season. So they really didn't need him because he didn't help them advance in 23 or 24 season. Sometimes GMs outsmart themselves.

I'll even add the PLD trade and sign might have really done the 5 year rebuild in for this team.

I mean if this is adding to your team to be competitive in the playoffs, no thank you

You know what the sad part is, the Kings made the playoffs without Fiala in the 21-22 season. So they really didn't need him because he didn't help them advance in 23 or 24 season. Sometimes GMs outsmart themselves.

I'll even add the PLD trade and sign might have really done the 5 year rebuild in for this team.
- BetweenTheDots

I hope Davidson hasn’t outsmarted himself making that trade with the Islanders.

I hope Davidson hasn’t outsmarted himself making that trade with the Islanders.
- paulr

We'll find out in 29 days

You know what the sad part is, the Kings made the playoffs without Fiala in the 21-22 season. So they really didn't need him because he didn't help them advance in 23 or 24 season. Sometimes GMs outsmart themselves.

I'll even add the PLD trade and sign might have really done the 5 year rebuild in for this team.

I mean if this is adding to your team to be competitive in the playoffs, no thank you
- BetweenTheDots

Please answer the question.

We'll find out in 29 days
- BetweenTheDots

More likely, we'll find out in about 3-4 years. I'd venture to say that KD" moves after the draft will be more interesting (unless he trades pick(s) for an active player at the draft).

So. They both didn't win a Stanley Cup. Minny got a lot younger and my guess is Faber will be playing a long time after Doughty and Fiala hang them up
- BetweenTheDots

Eh, Fiala is only 27, that trade wasn't bad. Giving up a good young d for an established good C isn't a bad trade.

Where LA messed up for me is PLD, WTF was he thinking with that contract and history???

I hope Davidson hasn’t outsmarted himself making that trade with the Islanders.
- paulr

I just keep telling myself there has to be a reason.

Not that we'll ever really know the truth.

Please answer the question.
- Chunk

Which one?

Which one?
- BetweenTheDots

At what point is it acceptable to you to make a trade or signing to fill a roster hole to be competitive in the playoffs?

At what point is it acceptable to you to make a trade or signing to fill a roster hole to be competitive in the playoffs?
- Chunk

I'm fine with a trade or signing anytime so long as it makes sense, tomorrow and long term.

Let's say in 4 years the Blackhawks are a playoff team, we have a bunch of RD men in the system, i don't want them to trade them to help the playoff roster, I want them to figure out how many can play at the NHL level and if 3 of them can make Seth Jones expendable. You can than trade him or buy him out, whatever, you become younger and cheaper, but then maybe more expensive in the future but now Seth and his contract are gone. This just makes sense to me.

I'm sure that's what we'll see in a year or 2 with Dougie Hamilton.

I'd like to see the Hawks acquire/sign a d-man to help Korchinski's development like this.
- DarthKane

Montour?

https://twitter.com/2ndCi.../1796244677739348449?s=19


Nice article about Vlasic and how impressive his season was playing for the Blackhawks

I'm fine with a trade or signing anytime so long as it makes sense, tomorrow and long term.

Let's say in 4 years the Blackhawks are a playoff team, we have a bunch of RD men in the system, i don't want them to trade them to help the playoff roster, I want them to figure out how many can play at the NHL level and if 3 of them can make Seth Jones expendable. You can than trade him or buy him out, whatever, you become younger and cheaper, but then maybe more expensive in the future but now Seth and his contract are gone. This just makes sense to me.

I'm sure that's what we'll see in a year or 2 with Dougie Hamilton.



- BetweenTheDots

Sounds good in theory, but in practice it may not be feasible. You have roster limits and winning to worry about as well. Sometimes a calculated risk is necessary. If you have some injuries, then maybe you can glean all that info, but I think more often than not you will have to go off of what guys do in the AHL.

Exactly the trap Bowman got into, trying to capture that one last championship, staying loyal to the main guys who won previous championships. You can argue Tampa fell into the same trap. Another thing Davidson has to be aware of and try not to follow the same mistake.
- paulr

It sounds like Kopitar and Doughty went to management and said they didn't want to play for a loser.

They should have just done their retool and told those guys to get (frank)ed. If they demanded a trade they should have said waive to go anywhere so we can get best value or don't show up and see how that goes.

The NHL is kinda messed up where it caters to players every wish and desire in some instances - like this for example - Or is negligent regarding hits to the head - the Trouba elbow from the other day should have been automatic 10 games probably 20 since he's a repeat offender.

If you said every rookie/young player is a riddle to some degree I'd agree and the cliche that development isn't linear will always stand the test of time. And, I'd add he just turned 22 this month and only has 99 NHL games.....

The riddle that Reichel presents to me is the gap between his 15 in 23 on the late callup 2 yrs ago and being completely lost for much of this whole yr, and that's with a whole offseason to prepare of of that 15 in 23.. No, development is not linear but his last 2 yrs are extreme opposites. Not talking about pts, we saw a lost player with our own eyes.

I'm a Reichel guy. I'm a sucker for quick twitch athletes as he showed exploding thru Dmen late in the yr for an in alone or a beauty drop pass to AA. 30 times I said to myself the light turned on for him last yr and 30 times I was wrong. A riddle.
- Mr Ricochet

In his defense it's a big transition from euro ice to American ice. It is a big transition from AHL to NHL for a majority of the players.

The Hawks team this year was also very bad and he had a lot of guys biff set ups and he had some ridiculously bad luck in the beginning of the year.

Maybe with some more quality around him he does better? I think that you should start to see some signs of consistency and life around the back half of the year.

So Sakic should of traded MacKinnon because he is signed for $12.6M until age 35, and put Colorado in cap hell with Makar $9m, and Raantanen at $9.2 for next year and UFA the year after?
- LAHawk

Not necessarily.

The Seabrook deal was bad and he was already in a decline. Signing him a year before his deal expired was not smart. They should have let him walk or waited and signed him for shorter term.

Sharp should have been traded immediately after the 2015 cup run.

Danault should not have been traded.

It's unrealistic to think the Hawks won't pay players. Paying guys for future contributions like Ottawa or Buffalo I think is dumb. Paying guys for past accomplishments and to appease a fan base is dumb.

Ideally they are competitive the last year of Bedards entry level deal and they're in the cup conversion when these guys (Nazar, Korch, etc are on bridge deals) and hope to get a run there then retool as best as possible as they go.

It's just the reality of the cap.

I hope Davidson hasn’t outsmarted himself making that trade with the Islanders.
- paulr

I liked the trade. I think it was about moving into a Tier that had a player or 2 that they are interested in that woudln't be there at #20. Also i think Lou was adding some assets as there cupboard is pretty bare. He may need extra picks if he wants to drop some salary as well.

I liked the trade. I think it was about moving into a Tier that had a player or 2 that they are interested in that woudln't be there at #20. Also i think Lou was adding some assets as there cupboard is pretty bare. He may need extra picks if he wants to drop some salary as well.
- SaskHawkFan

As far as if the two teams want to make another trade between them. Lee walhstrom to Chicago for future considerations or 3rd and Reese Johnson.

Eh, Fiala is only 27, that trade wasn't bad. Giving up a good young d for an established good C isn't a bad trade.

Where LA messed up for me is PLD, WTF was he thinking with that contract and history???
- vabeachbear

No kidding.

Comparables:
Demidov/ panirin
Levshunov/ Lindgren
Lindstrom/ combo of Krieder/ Brady Tkachuk

Comparables:
Demidov/ panirin
Levshunov/ Lindgren
Lindstrom/ combo of Krieder/ Brady Tkachuk
- Scott1977

Lindstrom is being compared to Eric Lindros

https://search.app/?link=...dl%2Csh%2Fx%2Fgs%2Fm2%2F5

Lindstrom is being compared to Eric Lindros

https://search.app/?link=...dl%2Csh%2Fx%2Fgs%2Fm2%2F5
- paulr

Im starting to like him as our pick @2. Just hoping the injury history is minor and isn't an issue.

Lindstrom is being compared to Eric Lindros

https://search.app/?link=...dl%2Csh%2Fx%2Fgs%2Fm2%2F5
- paulr

Are they assuming his career will be shortened by injury?

Are they assuming his career will be shortened by injury?
- Chunk

Or he doesn’t keep his head up?

I hope Davidson hasn’t outsmarted himself making that trade with the Islanders.
- paulr

I don't think so. I think he is just getting himself into position if he wants to move up for someone they really want. Also, they gave up pick 61 but still have pick 66 and they have used a lot of pick in the top 90 the last two drafts. so one pick isn't going derail any plans.