Teams are not going to pass up a deal that helps them because it might help another team in their division. The Hawks have traded with both teams before and the world didn't end.

Minny needs as much help as they can get. Especially if the Hawks send a cheap prospect over.

Re: moving up one spot. If their guy falls to that spot and they don't want to take a chance on Washington selecting him, that's the point.
- Chunk

Kaiser and the 18th for Minnesota pick?

Kudos to KD if he can move up in the draft again, but that's a tall order to fill.

If a team is looking to acquire more picks, then KD has the assets to make a deal. If those teams want immediate help (i.e. the DeBrincat trade) then the Hawks are out of luck.

6. Utah - Traded to Chicago for Seth Jones.
10. NJ - they don't need more picks, they're rather have a top 10 talent added to their roster.
11. Buffalo - Skinner waives and is he and his 3x9M cap hit is traded to Chicago with #11. Sabres use the cap space to make a trade and/or sign a free agent to improve their team.
12. Philly - maybe they are willing to part with the #12 pick, but my guess is that they would rather have the prospect they can get at 12.
13. Minny - they're not trading to help the Hawks
14. SJ - same as Philly
15. Detroit - if they traded this pick they would want immediate help in return
16. St. Louis - won't trade to help the Hawks
17. Washington - is there a point in moving up one spot?
- DarthKane

Fixed.

Kaiser and the 18th for Minnesota pick?
- Scott1977

Maybe. Moving up 5 spots at the cost of Kaiser is steep, but could be worth it if the right guy is available at #13. If it works for Minnesota, I would rather include Allan instead of Kaiser.

Maybe. Moving up 5 spots at the cost of Kaiser is steep, but could be worth it if the right guy is available at #13. If it works for Minnesota, I would rather include Allan instead of Kaiser.
- DarthKane

Kaiser is just to much of an unknown to trade away right now, just like Korchinski. If i were to trade anyone away right now it would be Phillips. Kid shows promise but we are seeing younger kids pass him up on the depth chart. Gotta let the research and development department, at least let them develop to see what we got.

Kaiser is just to much of an unknown to trade away right now, just like Korchinski. If i were to trade anyone away right now it would be Phillips. Kid shows promise but we are seeing younger kids pass him up on the depth chart. Gotta let the research and development department, at least let them develop to see what we got.
- BetweenTheDots

If KD believes a trade improves the team he makes it. I’m sure he has an idea of how he thinks Kaiser will project, if there’s a player in the draft he thinks will be an improvement he makes the deal, and he won’t if he feels Kaiser is the better prospect.

Let’s deal with the the comparison as right now and my opinion.

Byfield based on what he can do on a NHL team whether it is Habs, Hawks or Kings.

He is an evolved NHLer and already added details to his play and uses his size and has a high upside as both a pro centre and pro wing with a physical game. I don’t think it is outlandish to project his future encompasses using his body and offensive side to a much higher level.

Slavkovsky based on what he can do on a NHL team whether it is Habs, Hawks or Kings.

He clearly has the makings of a big body who can score. At this juncture, he still is so far from figuring his positioning, and has got to improve his details.
(I am gonna call his Euro origin as a detriment; the North American kids have played under the coaches “the right way” and the smaller ice their lives.

I see the still playing junior hockey Cayden Lindstrom as a worthy candidate along the lines of Byfield and Slavkovsky
Common sense would place Slavkovsky by virtue of where he was selected as a 1( with scoring upside.) And then Byfield by virtue that he might be a top line centre. Slavkovsky more of a big scoring wing.
Cayden Lindstrom has all the upside he needs to be an NHL centre. HIs floor starts high, and arguably the same floor any scout would have suggested for the other two when they were about to be drafted.

I am not sure you could find anyone RIGHT NOW would compare Cayden higher than two guys who we have see already percolating in the big league waters…

I am tired of the same back talk on his back...if it is an issue, he wi;ll be there at #18
- wiz1901

I posted this earlier but he's skating 3 days \ week and in the gym 5 days \ week.

He would be going to physio if he had a chronic back problem not working through a business as usual off season program.

Kaiser is just to much of an unknown to trade away right now, just like Korchinski. If i were to trade anyone away right now it would be Phillips. Kid shows promise but we are seeing younger kids pass him up on the depth chart. Gotta let the research and development department, at least let them develop to see what we got.
- BetweenTheDots

Kinda depends though. They have 18 LD's in the pipeline. Obviously, you don't want to lose a good player, but if you get one back it's a wash. They aren't going to be able to ice all of the guys they have at the moment.

You've currently got Left shots:

Vlasic
KK
Kaiser
Phillips
Allan
EDM
Harding

From what I understand, Allan, Kaiser and Phillips are the only ones who have had much (if any) experience playing their off side (Maybe EDM too, but I wasn't able to find anything concrete on that). So you basically have five guys fighting for one spot.

For first four picks
Demidov 2
Bosevert or Hage depending who is there at 18
Solberg 34
ej emey 50
- Scott1977

I think KD chooses Lindstrom at 2 and Sennecke at 18

Kaiser and the 18th for Minnesota pick?
- Scott1977

Pass. Kaiser will be an everyday defenseman for this team. He is a great skater, makes smart high percentage plays, and isn’t a stone hander in the O-zone. I think he’ll pan out like a Forsling or Girard in the next couple years. Would not trade him.

Kinda depends though. They have 18 LD's in the pipeline. Obviously, you don't want to lose a good player, but if you get one back it's a wash. They aren't going to be able to ice all of the guys they have at the moment.

You've currently got Left shots:

Vlasic
KK
Kaiser
Phillips
Allan
EDM
Harding

From what I understand, Allan, Kaiser and Phillips are the only ones who have had much (if any) experience playing their off side (Maybe EDM too, but I wasn't able to find anything concrete on that). So you basically have five guys fighting for one spot.
- Chunk

Can we not learn the lesson the Kings showed everyone? Besides plenty of injuries happened the past 2 years. The only guys that have been durable are Vlasic, S Jones and Korchinski. So really have plenty of available spots, and don't care if they are all left handed. Let's not be some minor league team producing NHL players for other teams. If Korchinski struggled he can be sent to the Rock this year, there is no rush to make a trade happen and give away some promising player(s)

Pass. Kaiser will be an everyday defenseman for this team. He is a great skater, makes smart high percentage plays, and isn’t a stone hander in the O-zone. I think he’ll pan out like a Forsling or Girard in the next couple years. Would not trade him.
- ObeseOprah

So if Eiserman or a defenseman ranked higher than Kaiser were to be available at 13 you’d say no? The answer isn’t clear because we don’t know how the draft will unfold. If KD feels moving Kaiser improves the team he’ll make the deal, otherwise he won’t.

He’s really coming into his own. 28 goals this season and he’s almost a PPG player in the playoffs.

Another late bloomer from the 2020 draft. Maybe there’s still hope for Reichel.
- DarthKane

Right coach, right situation. Laviolette plays him exclusively in the ozone (75% starts during regular season) Had a good second year 19 goals with something like 11 mins TOI.

He's been a positive play driver every year but his rookie year.

Reichel hasn't even played a full season of NHL hockey yet and came in with much less of a pedigree.

It will be interesting to see how he looks on the back 9 of this year.

His play off the puck isn't great all of the time and his decision making in the ozone has been not very good. He also had some of the worst luck I've seen with goals being pulled back from the line and posts and poop like that.

It will be interesting to see how he responds to there being more roster competition (theoretically). A better line up may help him but if he doesn't perform relatively early I think you'll see him bounced around similar to last year.

Right coach, right situation. Laviolette plays him exclusively in the ozone (75% starts during regular season) Had a good second year 19 goals with something like 11 mins TOI.

He's been a positive play driver every year but his rookie year.

Reichel hasn't even played a full season of NHL hockey yet and came in with much less of a pedigree.

It will be interesting to see how he looks on the back 9 of this year.

His play off the puck isn't great all of the time and his decision making in the ozone has been not very good. He also had some of the worst luck I've seen with goals being pulled back from the line and posts and poop like that.

It will be interesting to see how he responds to there being more roster competition (theoretically). A better line up may help him but if he doesn't perform relatively early I think you'll see him bounced around similar to last year.
- fattybeef

What I saw last year Reichel lacked lower body strength. He's still quite young. Sharp ended up 200# and it took him till 24ish to click. They have the same body type.

Can we not learn the lesson the Kings showed everyone? Besides plenty of injuries happened the past 2 years. The only guys that have been durable are Vlasic, S Jones and Korchinski. So really have plenty of available spots, and don't care if they are all left handed. Let's not be some minor league team producing NHL players for other teams. If Korchinski struggled he can be sent to the Rock this year, there is no rush to make a trade happen and give away some promising player(s)
- BetweenTheDots

What if you get back a better player?

What I saw last year Reichel lacked lower body strength. He's still quite young. Sharp ended up 200# and it took him till 24ish to click. They have the same body type.
- rpeters01

Reichel was also quite timid, Sharp never was. Improving himself physically is the easy part for Reichel, as in everything getting over a mental block is sometimes more difficult.

What I saw last year Reichel lacked lower body strength. He's still quite young. Sharp ended up 200# and it took him till 24ish to click. They have the same body type.
- rpeters01

Well when you look at the Sharp math. He was in the AHL at 20, spent two years there mostly - so 22. And then took 2 years to figure it out in the NHL which I think is about what it takes to understand what kind of player you have.

Reichel has 1ish season under his belt. By the back end of next year you should start to see consistency and progress and kinda know what you got.

He has the disadvantage of coming over from European ice and having to relearn the game to a certain extent on the smaller surface. I think his biggest struggles have less to do with strength and more to do with on ice awareness and off puck play.

You'd think with the talent level that would fix itself with time but you never know. Tomas Jurco had a lot of skill and skated good and lit up the AHL but couldn't put it together in the NHL. It'll be an interesting season for a lot of players especially depending on how they add or subtract this summer.

Maybe. Moving up 5 spots at the cost of Kaiser is steep, but could be worth it if the right guy is available at #13. If it works for Minnesota, I would rather include Allan instead of Kaiser.
- DarthKane

Either or imo Allen has more upside than Kaiser. Kaiser to me is a better version of Mitchell but not by much.

Well when you look at the Sharp math. He was in the AHL at 20, spent two years there mostly - so 22. And then took 2 years to figure it out in the NHL which I think is about what it takes to understand what kind of player you have.

Reichel has 1ish season under his belt. By the back end of next year you should start to see consistency and progress and kinda know what you got.

He has the disadvantage of coming over from European ice and having to relearn the game to a certain extent on the smaller surface. I think his biggest struggles have less to do with strength and more to do with on ice awareness and off puck play.

You'd think with the talent level that would fix itself with time but you never know. Tomas Jurco had a lot of skill and skated good and lit up the AHL but couldn't put it together in the NHL. It'll be an interesting season for a lot of players especially depending on how they add or subtract this summer.
- fattybeef

It would help if the Hawks determine that Reichel is a winger or a center, and leave him wherever instead of ping-ponging him around.

Corey Pronman’s latest profile on Demidov:
Demidov has been the clear best player in Russia's junior league over the last two seasons. He is the most purely skilled player in the draft, and is extremely creative in making plays with the puck. He has an excellent motor, attacks the net consistently and competes hard to win pucks. Demidov created scoring chances seemingly every shift this season. While he can run a power play when the game slows down, he makes a lot of plays on the move. He's a powerful but awkward-looking skater though, who is a bit knock kneed and reliant on his edge work but gets around okay. He's not the biggest winger as well so there is some question about how his game will translate to higher levels. I see a potential top-line winger who will score a lot and play a style of game that will appeal himself to coaches.

Pronman's latest rankings as May 28, 2024

Tier 1 Elite
Celebrini

Tier 2 Bubble elite, All star
Levshunov

Tier 3 - All star
Yakemchuk, Silayev, Buium

Tier 4 - Bubble all star, top of the lineup player
Catton, Sennecke, Demidov

Tier 5 - top of the lineup player
Parekh, Lindstrom, D!ckinson

Tier 6 bubble top, middle lineup
Solberg, Iginla, Helenius, Jirick, Eiserman, Brandsegg-Nygard, Chernyshov

(That's 18 by the way.)

Tier 7 middle lineup
Luchanko, Beaudin, Wallenius, Elick, Greentree, Connelly, Hage, Eriksson
Boisvert, Latourneau, and several more.

Corey Pronman’s latest profile on Demidov:
Demidov has been the clear best player in Russia's junior league over the last two seasons. He is the most purely skilled player in the draft, and is extremely creative in making plays with the puck. He has an excellent motor, attacks the net consistently and competes hard to win pucks. Demidov created scoring chances seemingly every shift this season. While he can run a power play when the game slows down, he makes a lot of plays on the move. He's a powerful but awkward-looking skater though, who is a bit knock kneed and reliant on his edge work but gets around okay. He's not the biggest winger as well so there is some question about how his game will translate to higher levels. I see a potential top-line winger who will score a lot and play a style of game that will appeal himself to coaches.
- ObeseOprah

Pavel Datysuk wasn't the biggest either. I'd take him.

Well when you look at the Sharp math. He was in the AHL at 20, spent two years there mostly - so 22. And then took 2 years to figure it out in the NHL which I think is about what it takes to understand what kind of player you have.

Reichel has 1ish season under his belt. By the back end of next year you should start to see consistency and progress and kinda know what you got.

He has the disadvantage of coming over from European ice and having to relearn the game to a certain extent on the smaller surface. I think his biggest struggles have less to do with strength and more to do with on ice awareness and off puck play.

You'd think with the talent level that would fix itself with time but you never know. Tomas Jurco had a lot of skill and skated good and lit up the AHL but couldn't put it together in the NHL. It'll be an interesting season for a lot of players especially depending on how they add or subtract this summer.
- fattybeef

Fingers crossed that his play toward the end of this year (NHL, AHL, and WC) carries over into next year.

Well when you look at the Sharp math. He was in the AHL at 20, spent two years there mostly - so 22. And then took 2 years to figure it out in the NHL which I think is about what it takes to understand what kind of player you have.

Reichel has 1ish season under his belt. By the back end of next year you should start to see consistency and progress and kinda know what you got.

He has the disadvantage of coming over from European ice and having to relearn the game to a certain extent on the smaller surface. I think his biggest struggles have less to do with strength and more to do with on ice awareness and off puck play.

You'd think with the talent level that would fix itself with time but you never know. Tomas Jurco had a lot of skill and skated good and lit up the AHL but couldn't put it together in the NHL. It'll be an interesting season for a lot of players especially depending on how they add or subtract this summer.
- fattybeef

Sharp fairly quickly had great players around him with Chicago.

Sharp fairly quickly had great players around him with Chicago.
- rpeters01

Imagine how good Bedard is going to be when that happens...

Pronman's latest rankings as May 28, 2024

Tier 1 Elite
Celebrini

Tier 2 Bubble elite, All star
Levshunov

Tier 3 - All star
Yakemchuk, Silayev, Buium

Tier 4 - Bubble all star, top of the lineup player
Catton, Sennecke, Demidov

Tier 5 - top of the lineup player
Parekh, Lindstrom, D!ckinson

Tier 6 bubble top, middle lineup
Solberg, Iginla, Helenius, Jirick, Eiserman, Brandsegg-Nygard, Chernyshov

(That's 18 by the way.)

Tier 7 middle lineup
Luchanko, Beaudin, Wallenius, Elick, Greentree, Connelly, Hage, Eriksson
Boisvert, Latourneau, and several more.
- boilermaker100

Pronman is an enigma. Just go look his final rankings from 2017