News of the Carolina/TDA swap floated around for weeks beforehand didn't it?
- Tomahawk

walker as well. Hayes you can also add.

what are your thoughts/opinion in the "lappy" extension?
- hello it's me 2050

Not a fan of home getting an extension at all.
He fits right into the flyers mantra number one at being mediocre. Not good to great but not trash or the worst ever. Wonderful.

News of the Carolina/TDA swap floated around for weeks beforehand didn't it?
- Tomahawk

Not Briere/Jones

Not Briere/Jones
- MJL

ah! you are correct Sir!

Not Briere/Jones
- MJL

Talking about the TDA/Rizzo swap.

A team like the Flyers really shouldn't be on that list: large US market, favorable exchange rates, stable ownership, unlimited budget, easy travel, new-ish facilities and an established brand heritage.

Every other team has some kind of built-in excuse.
- Tomahawk

what's toronto's?

Speaking of droughts...

Philadelphia (1975) 49 years
- Glak18[2 cups]
NY Islanders (1983) 41 years [4 cups]
Calgary (1989) 35 years [1 cup]
Edmonton (1990) 34 years [5 cups]
Montreal (1993) 31 years [10 cups]

Teams that have never won a REAL Stanley Cup

Toronto (1967) 57 years
Vancouver (1970) 54 years
Buffalo (1970) 54 years
Winnipeg/Arizona/Utah (1979) 45 years
San Jose (1991) 33 years
Ottawa (1992) 32 years
Florida (1993) 31 years
Nashville (1998) 26 years
Atlanta/Winnipeg (1999) 25 years
Minnesota Wild (2000) 24 years
Columbus (2000) 24 years
Seattle (2021) 3 years


At least a 30+ year drought will end this year.

I’m going to be a technical ass and mention that Utah doesn’t belong on the list as they are not the Coyotes. They’re an expansion team who is getting the Ravens treatment. The stats, records, and illustrious history stay in Arizona.

The Arizona Coyotes/original Winnipeg Jets are in suspension until when/if Meruelo secures a new stadium. They are essentially in limbo and can be taken off the shelf and restored in a few seasons.

So the Jets stuff all transfered to Arizona, but it won’t move to Utah.

The list still remains the same. I’d just erase Utah.

I'm really torn who I want to win...

Would love to see Bob win the cup, would absolutely love it.

I would love to see McDavid break the playoff scoring record too, but it would HAVE to go 7 games.

McDavid deserves a cup IMO, but I think Edmonton has enough of them already, but does Florida (the state) deserve another one too? If Edmonton does lose then at least that will shut up the entitled Canadian base and it almost guarantees Leon will be on the move. I also don't think Florida will have many more shots at a cup in the near future either.

I just want a cup to go Game 7 OT and who ever wins then I am happy.
- Glak18

This series should end tonight. Florida is a machine and they found their game the second half of game 5. If they bring that game from the beginning, it’s all over. McDavid just can’t keep dominating can he? It’s a team sport right? The better team will win, but McDavisnshould win the Conn Smyth tonight u less Bob or Barkov absolutely dominates tonight.

Wow. We’re creeping up on the millenium being the halfway point since the Flyer’s last Cup. Looks like it’ll easily surpass it.

Stupid time messin with my head.

man, you beat me to it!
- Flyfly

Carolina is about the only other team interested in TDA, not a great example

News of the Carolina/TDA swap floated around for weeks beforehand didn't it?
- Tomahawk

Same thing with Rizzo and the Flyers.

Edit: Late

So your position lines up with the Flyers philosophy...build a good, but not great team that can make the playoffs and hope to go on a magic run?

Do you have the same lack of respect for Colorado? Their previous cups were 100% on the failure of the Quebec franchise. Plus they did have a lot of bad years to get the players to win a couple years ago too.

I understand how bad it looks for a team like Edmonton to get that many high picks, but to make it worse first overall selections, but isn't that really on the league and not Edmonton?

Edit:

Also if the Flyers won the next 2 or 3 1OA picks in the draft, I'm telling EVERYONE to eat poop and I don't care what they respect or don't. (frank) the Flyers, I deserve to watch a superstar for once.
- Glak18

we all get our own opinions. Yea, I want them to get high picks, but I don't want to see a 10 year tank and have the league bail them out. Oilers received top pick after top pick, no shock they also got the generational talent to go with it. I want the Flyer to play hard, the right way and make good hockey trades. If that means ship out TK, then do it, but I don't want an intentional tank, trade away with no return, just to lose.

Carolina is about the only other team interested in TDA, not a great example
- ClaudeFather

Hayes was another... does that pass your test?

we all get our own opinions. Yea, I want them to get high picks, but I don't want to see a 10 year tank and have the league bail them out. Oilers received top pick after top pick, no shock they also got the generational talent to go with it. I want the Flyer to play hard, the right way and make good hockey trades. If that means ship out TK, then do it, but I don't want an intentional tank, trade away with no return, just to lose.
- wcorvette

Besides the LEAGUE bailing teams out, not many teams have "tanked" for a short span and were successful. It all comes down to the person's definition of when the tank began.

As an example just look at Tampa's 1st round selection looks like from the beginning, there's a clear pattern.

Not many teams have won a cup when they are drafting consistently in the teens and higher 5 years or more before winning it.

Pissburgh took 7-8 years (not when they drafted Crosby) when they started to rebuild before they won a cup. Edmonton is already on year 8-9 now (not including pre-McDavid tank years) before reaching the finals.

If it takes 8-10 years to do it when drafting generational talent, how long does it take if you just get a top 10 pick here and there?

Answer: start at 50 and guess.

I’m really torn with these rumors of trading up to #7. Specifically if it involves pick #12.

If it involves pick #31/32 I’m totally ok with it. Say that pick and tk or bee or whatever I’m totally for it.

But any real asset (tk/bee) +pick #12 to move up to #7 really pisses me off because of using assets for a pick they should’ve basically been around had they not tried to win this past season.


I guess gotta wait and see what/if happens but I see post about how’d people feel about it and just throwing my rant/$.02 in

https://x.com/JHallNBCS/s...-thread.2933493%2Fpage-69

results say otherwise so far

Besides the LEAGUE bailing teams out, not many teams have "tanked" for a short span and were successful. It all comes down to the person's definition of when the tank began.

As an example just look at Tampa's 1st round selection looks like from the beginning, there's a clear pattern.

Not many teams have won a cup when they are drafting consistently in the teens and higher 5 years or more before winning it.
- Glak18

it is somewhat subjective. I get the past, I do think the league is different today, the lower end talent in the league gets better and better. Truth is, with the evolution of tech and information at your finger tips, kids have information at a young age on how to be their best. I think that creates a larger and more talented talent pool to choose from, makes better teams across the board, more tight games.

You can have a McD and LD but still trail in a series. I also think with all the talent in the league, there will be talent available via trade and FA. To win, it is about high end talent but it is just as much about the team as a whole. The Panthers are showing that, win or lose, they are a complete team. Barky is high end talent but not generational. To me, it is hitting on your picks, whether 1st round or 3rd, something the Flyers have not done enough of.

That Myrtetus interview was nails on the chalkboard awful. Jesus.
- StepfordSam

Maybe he should bring back Dwayne from Swedesboro.


I can’t believe that bum is still able to get a job in this city after that.

Maybe he should bring back Dwayne from Swedesboro.


I can’t believe that bum is still able to get a job in this city after that.
- hereticpride

whatever happened to that fat phuck dancing shawnie?

whatever happened to that fat phuck dancing shawnie?
- hello it's me 2050

Holy poop. I completely forgot about him. He lost a ton of weight. And then didn’t he eventually get fired over a comment made while calling a game or something?

Maybe he should bring back Dwayne from Swedesboro.


I can’t believe that bum is still able to get a job in this city after that.
- hereticpride

That entire thing was crazy. Egan is an ass... and a Rangers fan.

it is somewhat subjective. I get the past, I do think the league is different today, the lower end talent in the league gets better and better. Truth is, with the evolution of tech and information at your finger tips, kids have information at a young age on how to be their best. I think that creates a larger and more talented talent pool to choose from, makes better teams across the board, more tight games.

You can have a McD and LD but still trail in a series. I also think with all the talent in the league, there will be talent available via trade and FA. To win, it is about high end talent but it is just as much about the team as a whole. The Panthers are showing that, win or lose, they are a complete team. Barky is high end talent but not generational. To me, it is hitting on your picks, whether 1st round or 3rd, something the Flyers have not done enough of.
- wcorvette

Also kind of depends of the definition of hitting on a pick. Some would say getting a 1st rounder that plays X amount of games in the NHL is hitting on a pick. Is Laughton hitting on a pick? They got a solid NHL player with the pick and the Flyers do a decent job at hitting on those picks. The Flyers need to figure out how to bunt on a pick and get a homerun out of it for once.

News of the Carolina/TDA swap floated around for weeks beforehand didn't it?
- Tomahawk

That was under chuckles , the Flyers at the time were the bronze standard of the nhl, now they are the gold standard

Big difference

Besides the LEAGUE bailing teams out, not many teams have "tanked" for a short span and were successful. It all comes down to the person's definition of when the tank began.

As an example just look at Tampa's 1st round selection looks like from the beginning, there's a clear pattern.

Not many teams have won a cup when they are drafting consistently in the teens and higher 5 years or more before winning it.

Pissburgh took 7-8 years (not when they drafted Crosby) when they started to rebuild before they won a cup. Edmonton is already on year 8-9 now (not including pre-McDavid tank years) before reaching the finals.

If it takes 8-10 years to do it when drafting generational talent, how long does it take if you just get a top 10 pick here and there?

Answer: start at 50 and guess.
- Glak18

It's really a 8-10 year process overall. You can certainly compete and win some in the playoffs along the way but overall that's what it's going to take. The more the Flyers try and cheat the process. The longer it's going to take. A case can be made that the drafting of Michkov, if he works out. Is the start of it. For the Flyers to add the added elite talent that it's going to take, plus development time. Looking at somewhere in the next decade for this team. If they adopt the correct plan. They never will.

Holy poop. I completely forgot about him. He lost a ton of weight. And then didn’t he eventually get fired over a comment made while calling a game or something?
- hereticpride

Same guy that inspired Gritty?