Trading Farabee is a mistake in my opinion. Unless the return is substantial and they jettison TK/Laughton.
- StepfordSam

I tend to agree but the Flyers have so many other needs and really are pretty decent on the wings in their system right now. If he has to move to get a deal done then they need to do it.

Tk + probably gets you 11. Can’t imagine getting 7 without giving up 12 or 32 involved somehow.
- Stayin alive

I wonder if Calgary would do 9th overall for TK straight up with an extension in place? They have a ton of cap room and can you imagine the absolute pain in the ass of having to face him and Kadri together?

You could then probably move up to 7 by packaging 9 and 32. That gives you 7, 12 and you still have pieces like Laughton you can make another deal with to recoup some draft capital from giving 32 away.

“No teams fanbase will agree to a 10 year rebuild”~mjl
- Stayin alive

That’s how you rebuild though. It’s not 10 years of tanking. A big chunk is tanking and drafting high. Then, depending on your luck with picks, you start to build around that core.

Take the 2 teams in the final, FLA and EDM, each started their rebuilds about 09/10.

FLA started to come out of their, let’s call it a “tank” phase, after 2015. So that’s about 5 years. In that time frame they selected 4 top 3 picks. Gudbranson, Huberdeau, Barkov, & Ekblad. They made some upgrades to their roster and had a great 2015/16 season. Then they bungled the expansion draft and that set them back a few years until 2020, when they hire Zito. Well, Zito has had them in compete mode since and has built the roster around the core of Barkov and Ekblad. If they don’t bungle expansion they’d have had a chance to compete sooner.

Edmonton started to come out of their “tank” phase at the same time. I outlined their issues in a previous post.

Each team “tanked” for around 5 years and then started to try to build around that core. Their GMs at the time didn’t do a good job building around the core post tank and that’s why it’s taken longer for each of them. New GMs have had to come in, which have done a better job.

I wonder if Calgary would do 9th overall for TK straight up with an extension in place? They have a ton of cap room and can you imagine the absolute pain in the ass of having to face him and Kadri together?

You could then probably move up to 7 by packaging 9 and 32. That gives you 7, 12 and you still have pieces like Laughton you can make another deal with to recoup some draft capital from giving 32 away.
- hereticpride

Have you seen what Calgary has done in the last year? That is called rebuilding. Why would they want an extended TK at this juncture?

Hypothetical, if the Flyers have to trade Farabee or Laughton, pick #32, and take the contract of Chabot and possibly Joseph to get #7 is it worth it? Briere has shown a willingness on two trades to eat salary to get a 1st rd pick.

I’m really torn with these rumors of trading up to #7. Specifically if it involves pick #12.

If it involves pick #31/32 I’m totally ok with it. Say that pick and tk or bee or whatever I’m totally for it.

But any real asset (tk/bee) +pick #12 to move up to #7 really pisses me off because of using assets for a pick they should’ve basically been around had they not tried to win this past season.


I guess gotta wait and see what/if happens but I see post about how’d people feel about it and just throwing my rant/$.02 in
- Stayin alive

I agree it annoys me as they should have finished lower this year. But gotta play the chips you’re dealt. I’m fine moving 12 if it means moving up and guaranteeing getting one of the top defenseman. I think all of the D, plus Catton and Helenius are gone by 10 or 11. So what I’d like to see is potentially 2 moves, one to get 7 or higher and then a move to get 11 if one of Helenius or Catton falls. Then they’d potentially have a 1D and 2C for the future. The veteran assets they’d have to give up will put them in a position to get a 1C in ‘25.

But if Catton or Helenius don’t make it to 11, I only make the deal for 7 or higher.

I wonder if Calgary would do 9th overall for TK straight up with an extension in place? They have a ton of cap room and can you imagine the absolute pain in the ass of having to face him and Kadri together?

You could then probably move up to 7 by packaging 9 and 32. That gives you 7, 12 and you still have pieces like Laughton you can make another deal with to recoup some draft capital from giving 32 away.
- hereticpride

I think Calgary and Seattle are the least likely of the teams from 5-11 to be open to those types of trades. Seattle will take the best defenseman available at 8 and Calgary will take BPA at 9. Maybe Calgary would be willing to move back for more draft capital but not a trade for TK.

At 12, I think BPA will be another winger so I’m not clinging onto that pick.

Hypothetical, if the Flyers have to trade Farabee or Laughton, pick #32, and take the contract of Chabot and possibly Joseph to get #7 is it worth it? Briere has shown a willingness on two trades to eat salary to get a 1st rd pick.
- Trox88

If Ottawa was willing to trade #7, Chabot, and Joseph for Farabee, Laughton, and #32 you take that deal and hope you don’t get arrested for stealing.

https://x.com/ArizonaCoyotes/status/1804275335514517618

It appears as though the dream is dead in Arizona.

Not against a team being there, but for God's sake, the league has to find a competent ownership group... something that never really existed in the history of the Coyotes.
- BaronVonShiznit

Meruelo doesn’t belong in the NHL so this is a good thing. Just unfortunate for the small hockey fan base out there.

If Ottawa was willing to trade #7, Chabot, and Joseph for Farabee, Laughton, and #32 you take that deal and hope you don’t get arrested for stealing.
- Schmojo

Well, they are getting like 5 million in cap space if Farabee is included, closer to 7 million with Laughton. Been reading a possible hold up in the Ullmark trade is the extension. Sens may view cap space as a real commodity and how many teams are looking to give a way cap space. Sens seem all in to making the playoffs. Just tossing out ideas.

In theory you are trading Farabee and Yackemchuck (12) for Richardinson (7). All theoretical but a way to look at it. I guess if you think you are getting a #1 vs a #3 D you strongly consider it. I personally don’t love the idea but in this light it isn’t terrible. I’d prefer to trade Laughton to move up if that is the play and possible. I think (young and cost controlled) Farabee is part of the solution in Philly.
- coffee junkie

The solution is years away. It's all about elite talent. If you don't have it, you're going nowhere.

So is the consensus Silayev will not be the 2nd Dman off the board? Obviously, the Flyers have done extensive scouting in Russia the last few years. Silayev is such a unicorn from measureable and skating speed, they may view him with more offensive upside then the rest of the league.
- Trox88

I think it’s likely he is the 2nd D of the board.

It’ll be interesting to see what the Hawks do. Demidov or Levshunov. If they take Levshunov, which is where the winds are blowing, I think the top 5 goes:

SJ-Celebrini
CHI-Levshunov
ANA-Silayev
CLB-Lindstrom
MTL-Demidov

I could see Buium sneaking into the top 5 though.

I think it’s likely he is the 2nd D of the board.

It’ll be interesting to see what the Hawks do. Demidov or Levshunov. If they take Levshunov, which is where the winds are blowing, I think the top 5 goes:

SJ-Celebrini
CHI-Levshunov
ANA-Silayev
CLB-Lindstrom
MTL-Demidov

I could see Buium sneaking into the top 5 though.
- Schmojo

I can see it going that way. I do have a feeling the Flyers like Buium or D!ckinson, so if the board falls that way getting to #7 makes a lot of sense.

Well, they are getting like 5 million in cap space if Farabee is included, closer to 7 million with Laughton. Been reading a possible hold up in the Ullmark trade is the extension. Sens may view cap space as a real commodity and how many teams are looking to give a way cap space. Sens seem all in to making the playoffs. Just tossing out ideas.
- Trox88

According to Capfriendly, that deal would leave OTT with $15m in cap space. Ullmark is $5m next year. So they’d have $10m left to re-sign Pinto, Brannstrom, and fill any other holes. Cap will go up a little next summer to accommodate the Ullmark extension increase.

This pregame bullsh!t ESPN does is why I want Florida to win. I'd do the slowest lap possible around the rink hoisting that trophy in front of their fans if I were a Panther.

I can see it going that way. I do have a feeling the Flyers like Buium or D!ckinson, so if the board falls that way getting to #7 makes a lot of sense.
- Trox88

I agree, I’d love for the Flyers to get either of them. It’ll be a good offseason with just that. If he can somehow swing another deal to get Helenius or Catton too, then DB will have me convinced.

In theory you are trading Farabee and Yackemchuck (12) for Richardinson (7). All theoretical but a way to look at it. I guess if you think you are getting a #1 vs a #3 D you strongly consider it. I personally don’t love the idea but in this light it isn’t terrible. I’d prefer to trade Laughton to move up if that is the play and possible. I think (young and cost controlled) Farabee is part of the solution in Philly.
- coffee junkie

Yakemchuk is a risky pick to me. I can just see him being another Ristolainen. So would you trade Risto and Farabee for D!ckinson? I would for sure. Also, There’s a chance Yakemchuk goes top 11. In which case you’re trading Farabee and another winger for D!ckinson. Even if I knew D!ckinson would only become a #2 like a Timonen level, I’d make the trade.

I agree, I’d love for the Flyers to get either of them. It’ll be a good offseason with just that. If he can somehow swing another deal to get Helenius or Catton too, then DB will have me convinced.
- Schmojo

That would be my dream scenario Buium/D*ckinson and Catton/Helenius.

Maybe I'm odd, but besides Celebrini and Demidov, I would be taking Buium, D*ckinson and Catton (Maybe not in that exact order) anyway.

Watching Levshunov gives me weird vibes, he's the most NHL ready, but is he the best NHL?

Lindstrom and Silayev are both projects to me, I don't want the Flyers investing more than they have to in the next couple drafts with high picks. Now if they slide then ok.

According to Capfriendly, that deal would leave OTT with $15m in cap space. Ullmark is $5m next year. So they’d have $10m left to re-sign Pinto, Brannstrom, and fill any other holes. Cap will go up a little next summer to accommodate the Ullmark extension increase.
- Schmojo

Rumors about the Sens trying to sign the Chrsis Tanev. Again, it's silly season, who knows.

I do think a Sens deal does get done. Much like Markstrom and NJ, Sens rumors have been swirling since the trade deadline.

Rumors about the Sens trying to sign the Chrsis Tanev brothers. Again, it's silly season, who knows.

I do think a Sens deal does get done. Much like Markstrom and NJ, Sens rumors have been swirling since the trade deadline.
- Trox88

Have the Flyers and Senators even ever been involved with a trade together? Nothing comes to mind.

Maybe that's a good thing.

Edit: I remembered Daigle

When did McDavid change his number to 37 and get fat in the face?

Florida is cooked I don’t see how they turn the momentum around.

The score a split second after I send lol.

Florida is cooked I don’t see how they turn the momentum around.
- bird_dog_pa

Bark Bark...offsides?

Have the Flyers and Senators even ever been involved with a trade together? Nothing comes to mind.

Maybe that's a good thing.

Edit: I remembered Daigle
- Glak18

How about Flyers getting Dan Quinn, Kerry Huffman, Mike Maneluk in separate deals. Can only go up in a possible return.