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Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 25 @ 3:44 PM ET
Weber is not a first ballot hall of famer. I love JR but is he better the Mogilny or Tkachuk, who should be in. How is Campbell a builder? Mogilny not being in is pure garbage
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 25 @ 3:53 PM ET
I'm not sure you're hearing me though. It doesn't really matter if we have an old Kane or not.
- t-dawg

No I hear ya. I’m in solitary on this for the most part, except with Brukie

I just think he’s the easiest and most logical addition. Whether people like it or not is irrelevant lol

If he took a one year deal (which is probably unlikely) for 5 million bucks it’s a perfect for fit for the top 6. Then 25–26 season either Othmann or Perrault enter that spot. We kinda need to be careful signing a long term player there imo

It’s unfinished business for both parties as has been speculated
evitageN
New York Rangers
Location: AKA Nick, I wrote a song about Facebook Stalkin'
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 25 @ 3:53 PM ET
Weber is not a first ballot hall of famer. I love JR but is he better the Mogilny or Tkachuk, who should be in. How is Campbell a builder? Mogilny not being in is pure garbage
- airjan23


76 goals in 77 games in 92-93.
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jun 25 @ 3:58 PM ET
Because we were in our zone most of the game because the forwards didnt do anything 5v5!!!


OBLIVIOUS!!!
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- Brukie


Combination of that plus we do not have defensemen that can move the puck well or suppress shots well either. Add in fwds who do not want to forecheck but rely only on skill you get an avg 5v5 team and not a great one
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 25 @ 4:05 PM ET
Combination of that plus we do not have defensemen that can move the puck well or suppress shots well either. Add in fwds who do not want to forecheck but rely only on skill you get an avg 5v5 team and not a great one
- nyrangers2

My brother, keep preaching.
mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

Jun 25 @ 4:26 PM ET
Weber is not a first ballot hall of famer. I love JR but is he better the Mogilny or Tkachuk, who should be in. How is Campbell a builder? Mogilny not being in is pure garbage
- airjan23



Doesn't a player need to be retired for three or five years? Even if three, that takes you to the end of the Covid-shortened seasons. I thought if he (Weber) retired then, there would be a mammoth cap recapture on a few teams. I must have missed something here...
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 25 @ 4:34 PM ET
My brother, keep preaching.
- blacksheep1

The biggest problems on this team to me

Zibs contract
Troubas contract
5 v 5 play

Since you can’t get rid of zib, Troubas contract has to go so you can make the necessary moves to get better 5 v 5
mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

Jun 25 @ 4:37 PM ET
The biggest problems on this team to me

Zibs contract
Troubas contract
5 v 5 play

Since you can’t get rid of zib, Troubas contract has to go so you can make the necessary moves to get better 5 v 5

- TPC



Hey...Detroit just freed up some cap space
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 25 @ 4:37 PM ET
Hey...Detroit just freed up some cap space
- mames11

Would be nice
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 25 @ 4:41 PM ET
The mid season trade deadline should be about adding depth for a playoff run. The last few years it’s been about Drury trying to fix the top 6 lol. Need to take care of that now in the summer
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jun 25 @ 4:46 PM ET
My brother, keep preaching.
- blacksheep1


The fwds frustrate me the most, mostly panarin mika kreider. Very one dimensional. Need to adapt more in PO
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jun 25 @ 4:58 PM ET
The biggest problems on this team to me

Zibs contract
Troubas contract
5 v 5 play

Since you can’t get rid of zib, Troubas contract has to go so you can make the necessary moves to get better 5 v 5

- TPC


Agreed 100%
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 25 @ 5:00 PM ET
The mid season trade deadline should be about adding depth for a playoff run. The last few years it’s been about Drury trying to fix the top 6 lol. Need to take care of that now in the summer
- TPC

Yea he’s definitely dropped the ball a bit. Cap restraints have something to do with it but he didn’t show much urgency this season
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 25 @ 5:02 PM ET
Talk that talk Brukie! Let know it's all on in the analytics. they were in front our face the whole time.
- blacksheep1



Cause as you know, as we have been told by others here, 5v5 doesnt matter.
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 25 @ 5:04 PM ET
No offense, but I don't think adding Kane matters. We have Zibanejad and Panarin, who aren't good enough to drive play 5on5 when it gets really tough, about halfway thru round 2 of the playoffs, but especially rounds 3 and 4. Full stop. They just aren't good enough.

I've never been more pessimistic about the perpetual state of purgatory this team keeps me in.

If what I wrote above changes one year down the line, deeper into their 30s, I will be shocked.

- t-dawg



I wonder who has said that before???

Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 25 @ 5:07 PM ET
Hey...Detroit just freed up some cap space
- mames11

I immediately thought maybe Trouba going there but Walman is LH so not sure that makes it more likely or not

It is an curious/odd move for them since they need defensemen (according to their fans)
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 25 @ 5:09 PM ET
The biggest problems on this team to me

Zibs contract
Troubas contract
5 v 5 play

Since you can’t get rid of zib, Troubas contract has to go so you can make the necessary moves to get better 5 v 5

- TPC

I'm so out on him after his public exit interview where he told the press "What I would like to see on my line is a passer. Somebody to get me and Kreider the puck. We're both shooters', so it'll be nice to have that kind of guy with us."


I was like mother(frank)er, you're the number center. That's part of you job.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 25 @ 5:13 PM ET
I'm so out on him after his public exit interview where he told the press "What I would like to see on my line is a passer. Somebody to get me and Kreider the puck. We're both shooters', so it'll be nice to have that kind of guy with us."


I was like mother(frank)er, you're the number center. That's part of you job.

- blacksheep1

Yea when you make 8.5 million a year you need to be the one driving play. It’s hard for me to have faith in Zib. He has proven now in 3 straight playoff years he isn’t good enough to go up against other teams top centers. But we are stuck with him. So have to hope he figures something out. Maybe a better RW helps a little
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 25 @ 5:16 PM ET
Yea when you make 8.5 million a year you need to be the one driving play. It’s hard for me to have faith in Zib. He has proven now in 3 straight playoff years he isn’t good enough to go up against other teams top centers. But we are stuck with him. So have to hope he figures something out. Maybe a better RW helps a little
- TPC

Listen in 2022 he had 24 points in 20 games. That's good. I'll take that. This year and vs the Devils? Dog poop. I'm very much out on him. I'm sure he's a nice guy, but when when this team needed him, he disappeared.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 25 @ 5:18 PM ET
I immediately thought maybe Trouba going there but Walman is LH so not sure that makes it more likely or not

It is an curious/odd move for them since they need defensemen (according to their fans)

- Slimtj100

Is Wallman bad? Know nothing about him, but his contract doesn’t seem terrible?
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 25 @ 5:19 PM ET
Listen in 2022 he had 24 points in 20 games. That's good. I'll take that. This year and vs the Devils? Dog poop. I'm very much out on him. I'm sure he's a nice guy, but when when this team needed him, he disappeared.
- blacksheep1

I think I just mostly remember him getting shut down in the ECF vs Cerelli. I’ll give him more credit for the rest of the 2022 playoffs. But yea last 2 years making the big money, just not good
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 25 @ 5:20 PM ET
Is Wallman bad? Know nothing about him, but his contract doesn’t seem terrible?
- nyrangers9479

6'1
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 25 @ 5:39 PM ET
Is Wallman bad? Know nothing about him, but his contract doesn’t seem terrible?
- nyrangers9479

I remember someone raving about him on Sirius. Can’t remember who but they loved the guy. It was probably a Wings beat writer

Maybe they’re going for chychrun or something. You’d figure they have to have someone in mind. Maybe its Lindgren 😱 which would please most people
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 25 @ 5:43 PM ET
I think I just mostly remember him getting shut down in the ECF vs Cerelli. I’ll give him more credit for the rest of the 2022 playoffs. But yea last 2 years making the big money, just not good
- TPC

This is my honest opinion on Zib. He had a bad year. Ain’t denying it and he fought the puck all season it seemed like. Whether his shooting was off, or just making the wrong play a lot of times. But the RWs he had suck. They weren’t at his level of skill or play, or aren’t capable of playing at that level. It’s clear the team realizes what I’m saying and hopefully addresses it with whoever that may be. It’s not a position they can band aid like they did this year (1RW). We know what he’s capable of because we’ve seen him dominate at times when he’s right, over the years. I’ll be the fair one lol and judge him when he gets a first line RW, til then I give him a pass. He’s arguably the best PKer in the NHL, which should mean something around here yet it means very little

Players have bad years and he is no different. His career playoff numbers are not terrible either, 73 games with 63 pts
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 25 @ 6:30 PM ET
This is my honest opinion on Zib. He had a bad year. Ain’t denying it and he fought the puck all season it seemed like. Whether his shooting was off, or just making the wrong play a lot of times. But the RWs he had suck. They weren’t at his level of skill or play, or aren’t capable of playing at that level. It’s clear the team realizes what I’m saying and hopefully addresses it with whoever that may be. It’s not a position they can band aid like they did this year (1RW). We know what he’s capable of because we’ve seen him dominate at times when he’s right, over the years. I’ll be the fair one lol and judge him when he gets a first line RW, til then I give him a pass. He’s arguably the best PKer in the NHL, which should mean something around here yet it means very little

Players have bad years and he is no different. His career playoff numbers are not terrible either, 73 games with 63 pts

- Slimtj100

Whether you like him or are done with him the reality is he is a ranger for a long time. So rangers have to figure out the best way to get him going again
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