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Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 1 @ 2:24 PM ET
👍
Still have some cash to spend filling out the roster as well.
And stuff...

- carsonagenic

The weather's good!
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jul 1 @ 2:25 PM ET
Another Canucks signing:

General Manager Patrik Allvin announces that the #Canucks have agreed to terms with goaltender Jiří Patera on a two-year, two-way contract.
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Jul 1 @ 2:25 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC

Casey DeSmith 1 x $3M Dallas
10:32 AM ¡ Jul 1, 2024

- dbot


Canucks replaced him with Jiri Patera off VGK for less. Guess who was high on him…lol.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jul 1 @ 2:25 PM ET
I would offer Desharnais 3 x 1.25. He is 28 6'7" 220+ See if he can develop a bit more would be worth the minimal risk.
- carsonagenic


Sounds good.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Jul 1 @ 2:26 PM ET
20240701-121046
- NorthNuck

Monahan got 5.5x5 😆
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jul 1 @ 2:26 PM ET
Maybe this makes DK sleep a little better tonight?

PuckPedia
@PuckPedia
Debrusk 7 year @ $5.5M Deal #Canucks

Yr 1 2.5M Base & 4M Signing Bonus
Yr 2 3M & 3M SB
Yr 3 4.5M
Yr 4 3M & 3M SB
Yr 5 4M & 2M SB
Yr 6 3.25M & 1.5M SB
Yr 7 3.25M & 1.5M SB

Years 1-3 No Move Clause, years 4-7 15 team No Trade
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jul 1 @ 2:27 PM ET
One can hope...

LeifRohlin
@LeafRollin
Jake Debrusk's resume looks earliy similar to JT Miller's when he was acquired by the #Canucks

Similar age, similar production.

Just sayin'. Maybe lightning strikes twice???


Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Jul 1 @ 2:30 PM ET
Solid work having to change gears from the top fish they lost out on. Maybe it’s for the better less risk more options for reward.

Though there seems to be a theme of who came in to replace who was out. No one replaced Lindy or Z though. They just shifted make up with Debrusk as the power forward they need to play in top six.

Now it’s possible they just go with Dak and Gards to play with Petey. Put Debrusk with Miller and Boeser. Suter goes to 3rd with Hogs and one of the new forwards. Bluegs on 4th Pods and one of new forwards. My guess for now. Lots of time until camp for changes.

- Quinn's Quest


We moved out:
Milky, Zadorov, Lindy, Lafferty, Cole = whos combined total output was 37 goals, 55 assists over 315 games and they're new combined contracts equalled 21mil per year over 18 years of combined term.
*It also cost us a 27' 2nd & 5th(Laff)/Milky), Kuzy, 1st, 4th, Bruz, Jermo (Lindy) and 5th/3rd (Z)

Brought in:
Sherwood, DeBrusk, Heinen, Forbort to replace = 46 goals, 61 assist over 257 games at 12mil per year with 11.45mil per year (incl.Milky retent.) with 12 years total of combined term.
*Got back a 4th

While I like the moves and see the potential value of what they did today. There's WAY TOO many picks going out the door and not being recovered. I hate it. Our MGMT have to stop doing this ASAP.

VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jul 1 @ 2:33 PM ET
Just saw Roy update. Too bad. Canucks did offer Lindy 7x7 it was reported and he signed to Boston for close to that. You’ll probably see same offer for Z was close too.

Canucks just not attracting UFA’s seems to be the issue more than them being budget conscious. Don’t know what’s up with that.

- Quinn's Quest


Hyperbole.
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Jul 1 @ 2:34 PM ET
One can hope...
- NewYorkNuck


I’d hope RT has a long look at Debrusk with JTM and Boeser.

Garland matches with Petey better and Dak can earn his new contract making room and cashing in off their talent.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Jul 1 @ 2:38 PM ET
Another Canucks signing:

General Manager Patrik Allvin announces that the #Canucks have agreed to terms with goaltender Jiří Patera on a two-year, two-way contract.

- NewYorkNuck


AHL backup? or creating a pointless log jam with a guy who's nothing special.

Silovs is a no-brainer backup, he's clearly ready, deserves it 100%.

claygolf83
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 02.06.2010

Jul 1 @ 2:45 PM ET
AHL backup? or creating a pointless log jam with a guy who's nothing special.

Silovs is a no-brainer backup, he's clearly ready, deserves it 100%.

- Brooks_Light

Maybe there is a Silovs trade in the works? IMO we are still a 2nd paring d man short
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jul 1 @ 2:48 PM ET
AHL backup? or creating a pointless log jam with a guy who's nothing special.

Silovs is a no-brainer backup, he's clearly ready, deserves it 100%.

- Brooks_Light



Pretty good argument to be made for Silovs to get lots of playing time with the baby Nucks this year and get called up to cover injuries.

Otherwise he’s riding the pine as a back up for 3/4 of the year.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Jul 1 @ 2:49 PM ET
I really like most things this new MGMT group has done. But they seem oblivious to the other crucial part of this business i- which is weaponizing the cap, taking on the odd LTIR contract from teams, keeping some flexibility open to snag a pick or two during the season from desperate teams - reagrdless of where we are in the standings.

If they wanna improve the team mid-season by trading - it absolutely should NOT involve picks going out. Rutherford better wake the fawk up, otherwise we'll end up like Pitts with 10 years of bare cupboards - difference is - they got cups to show for it.

We havent gone into a draft in 5 years with the min. 7 picks. Shameful/Ridiculous.

Carolinas window has been open and they've been a playoff team the last 6 years - in the previous 6 drafts, they've consistently had between 7-13 picks - THATS THE GOAL
They have a boatload of trade capital.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Jul 1 @ 2:52 PM ET
Maybe there is a Silovs trade in the works? IMO we are still a 2nd paring d man short
- claygolf83

I wouldn’t trade him, Demmer is made of glass.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Jul 1 @ 2:55 PM ET
I really like most things this new MGMT group has done. But they seem oblivious to the other crucial part of this business i- which is weaponizing the cap, taking on the odd LTIR contract from teams, keeping some flexibility open to snag a pick or two during the season from desperate teams - reagrdless of where we are in the standings.

If they wanna improve the team mid-season by trading - it absolutely should NOT involve picks going out. Rutherford better wake the fawk up, otherwise we'll end up like Pitts with 10 years of bare cupboards - difference is - they got cups to show for it.

We havent gone into a draft in 5 years with the min. 7 picks. Shameful/Ridiculous.

Carolinas window has been open and they've been a playoff team the last 6 years - in the previous 6 drafts, they've consistently had between 7-13 picks - THATS THE GOAL
They have a boatload of trade capital.

- Brooks_Light

Aqualungs father wants a cup before he croaks.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Jul 1 @ 3:01 PM ET
Pretty good argument to be made for Silovs to get lots of playing time with the baby Nucks this year and get called up to cover injuries.

Otherwise he’s riding the pine as a back up for 3/4 of the year.

- dbot


Yeah in no scenario should Demko being starting 60+ games ever again. Logically it should be a 50/30 split.

BUT the Canucks have to make a tough decision in the next year - are they gonna extend their frequently injured/veniza level goalie and dish out a monster contract? (ala Hellybuck?) - I hope not.

Or start dividing up the workload properly and give Silovs the opportunity he deserves. I dont see any reason for him to go back to AHL - he's played nearly 100 games, I think his time there is over.

I also don't think trading him NOW is the right move. But one of them has to go at some point - maximizing their return is imparative.
claygolf83
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 02.06.2010

Jul 1 @ 3:07 PM ET
Yeah in no scenario should Demko being starting 60+ games ever again. Logically it should be a 50/30 split.

BUT the Canucks have to make a tough decision in the next year - are they gonna extend their frequently injured/veniza level goalie and dish out a monster contract? (ala Hellybuck?) - I hope not.

Or start dividing up the workload properly and give Silovs the opportunity he deserves. I dont see any reason for him to go back to AHL - he's played nearly 100 games, I think his time there is over.

I also don't think trading him NOW is the right move. But one of them has to go at some point - maximizing their return is imparative.

- Brooks_Light


TSN panel was highlighting Arty as a possible offer sheet candidate so there is that we have to worry about
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jul 1 @ 3:10 PM ET
TSN panel was highlighting Arty as a possible offer sheet candidate so there is that we have to worry about
- claygolf83


Go ahead and worry. I don't GAF.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Jul 1 @ 3:10 PM ET
I wouldn’t trade him, Demmer is made of glass.
- Bettmanhatesus


Yup - love Demko but he doesnt have a great trackrecord already, physically and unfortunately, mentally.
When he's dialled in tho - lookout, he's the kinda guy that can absolutely steal you a playoff series or two.

Not gonna lie - now that the dust has settled - I wish the Canucks wouldve went for Duclair at 3.5X4 instead of the Sherwood/Heinen combo. I think DeBrusk/Duclair would have been a better bet in terms of pluggin the 2 top 6 gaps. Even tho the $$/term is a little more.
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Jul 1 @ 3:16 PM ET
I really like most things this new MGMT group has done. But they seem oblivious to the other crucial part of this business i- which is weaponizing the cap, taking on the odd LTIR contract from teams, keeping some flexibility open to snag a pick or two during the season from desperate teams - reagrdless of where we are in the standings.

If they wanna improve the team mid-season by trading - it absolutely should NOT involve picks going out. Rutherford better wake the fawk up, otherwise we'll end up like Pitts with 10 years of bare cupboards - difference is - they got cups to show for it.

We havent gone into a draft in 5 years with the min. 7 picks. Shameful/Ridiculous.

Carolinas window has been open and they've been a playoff team the last 6 years - in the previous 6 drafts, they've consistently had between 7-13 picks - THATS THE GOAL
They have a boatload of trade capital.

- Brooks_Light


Picking up dead weight for an extra 4th is not what competitive teams do. Maybe a bubble or rebuilding team does it.

Anyway Canucks have no trade capital but picks and a few prospects. Not a good way to add now for them as they have so few.

So yeah UFA and spending is what they have to do to stay competitive. While waiting on developing draft picks.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Jul 1 @ 3:38 PM ET
Picking up dead weight for an extra 4th is not what competitive teams do. Maybe a bubble or rebuilding team does it.

Anyway Canucks have no trade capital but picks and a few prospects. Not a good way to add now for them as they have so few.

So yeah UFA and spending is what they have to do to stay competitive. While waiting on developing draft picks.

- Quinn's Quest


It’s absolutely what good teams do - Vegas, Carolina, Colorado, Rangers, Tampa have all done it recently. You take advantage of every aspect of the game, business wise they may seem small - but it all adds up.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 1 @ 3:52 PM ET
It’s absolutely what good teams do - Vegas, Carolina, Colorado, Rangers, Tampa have all done it recently. You take advantage of every aspect of the game, business wise they may seem small - but it all adds up.
- Brooks_Light

Seriously man enough with the picks. No one cares. They have a short window and every pick should be on the table to upgrade.

(frank) I’m pumped for Sherwood. Dude is such a pr!ck lol
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Jul 1 @ 4:07 PM ET
Chychrun gone for a song?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 1 @ 4:08 PM ET
Chychrun gone for a song?
- Shuswap Wap

Yes, looks like the league finally caught on that he sucks
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