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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 29 @ 10:47 PM ET
Picture Lefty in a Utah Yeti uni
Jkuzzi
Joined: 12.14.2016

Jun 29 @ 10:55 PM ET
My final ask here

Sign Matt Roy and Brady Skjei.

Just gonna need Podkolzin and Hoglander and some ahl kids to step up In that top 9.

Hughes Hronek
Skjei Roy
Soucy Myers

That's rock solid on the back
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Jun 29 @ 11:07 PM ET
My final ask here

Sign Matt Roy and Brady Skjei.

Just gonna need Podkolzin and Hoglander and some ahl kids to step up In that top 9.

Hughes Hronek
Skjei Roy
Soucy Myers

That's rock solid on the back

- Jkuzzi


I agree / that’s a dynamite 6. Cap wise, it leaves u nothing to address top 6 scoring so think you choose one of those two guys - then go for a lower cap, big-depth LD and focus the salary on a forward like Skinner, Mantha, Arvidson - or ANYONE who u think could fit with Petey and semi-guarantee you 20-30 goals at a reasonable $$ hit.
Jkuzzi
Joined: 12.14.2016

Jun 29 @ 11:15 PM ET
I agree / that’s a dynamite 6. Cap wise, it leaves u nothing to address top 6 scoring so think you choose one of those two guys - then go for a lower cap, big-depth LD and focus the salary on a forward like Skinner, Mantha, Arvidson - or ANYONE who u think could fit with Petey and semi-guarantee you 20-30 goals at a reasonable $$ hit.
- Brooks_Light


I'm good with that as well.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Jun 29 @ 11:17 PM ET
How does this grab you?

https://www.capfriendly.c.../armchair-gm/team/5292819

- Nighthawk


Grabs me pretty well actually - not sure how realistic it is cap wise - but only bcus I honestly have no idea how much these middle 6 UFA forwards are gonna cost. It seems like theres a few top tier guys that will get Loui Eriksson deals (that we must avoid) then a ton of secondary guys.
Olefson, Arvidson, Skinner, Duclair, Stephenson all seem like prime targets for bounce back years. I’m guessing they’re all around the 4-6 mill mark - no idea on term?
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 29 @ 11:18 PM ET
I agree / that’s a dynamite 6. Cap wise, it leaves u nothing to address top 6 scoring so think you choose one of those two guys - then go for a lower cap, big-depth LD and focus the salary on a forward like Skinner, Mantha, Arvidson - or ANYONE who u think could fit with Petey and semi-guarantee you 20-30 goals at a reasonable $$ hit.
- Brooks_Light


They will have to skimp on the 3rd pairing I think. Jules is signed so they will probably bring in a solid 3rd pairing lefty on the cheap.


Jkuzzi
Joined: 12.14.2016

Jun 29 @ 11:29 PM ET
They will have to skimp on the 3rd pairing I think. Jules is signed so they will probably bring in a solid 3rd pairing lefty on the cheap.
- boonerbuck


Injuries happen tho and it was soooo mice having Z down there for when Soucy got hurt
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jun 29 @ 11:30 PM ET
They will have to skimp on the 3rd pairing I think. Jules is signed so they will probably bring in a solid 3rd pairing lefty on the cheap.
- boonerbuck


They may also use Friedman or another AHL vet too. It's not like they don't have options if they can have a solid top 4 D core that they can play 40+ minutes and limit the TOI of the weaker 3rd pair. You'd like balance, but Hughes and Hronek have shown that they can handle 30+ minutes a night, if they can get a good second pair that can eat up another 15-20 and be productive then you can get by with weak 3rd pair that only plays maybe 10-15 minutes a night
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Jun 29 @ 11:34 PM ET
They will have to skimp on the 3rd pairing I think. Jules is signed so they will probably bring in a solid 3rd pairing lefty on the cheap.
- boonerbuck


Yup, I think that’s the reality of the situation but it’s a good thing. If they spent big on a guy like Roy, or Pesce, then they’d have to find a Cole-esque depth guy like Hakanpaa (my top choice) or a Forbort, Edmundson

5$ - Top6F
4-5$ - Best D available
1-1.5$ Silovs
2.75-3$ - mid6F
1.5-2$ - Bot-pair D


Cap wise do u think it’s possible
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 29 @ 11:47 PM ET
Yup, I think that’s the reality of the situation but it’s a good thing. If they spent big on a guy like Roy, or Pesce, then they’d have to find a Cole-esque depth guy like Hakanpaa (my top choice) or a Forbort, Edmundson

5$ - Top6F
4-5$ - Best D available
1-1.5$ Silovs
2.75-3$ - mid6F
1.5-2$ - Bot-pair D


Cap wise do u think it’s possible

- Brooks_Light

Pesce has lost 10 steps and is going to NJ anyways. I think it’s extremely unlikely Roy would consider signing in Canada. Most likely stays in LA. He would be a good fit though
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Jun 29 @ 11:50 PM ET
Mantha 👎
- Nighthawk


Elaborate?

Other than being injury prone - what’s the issue. He’s been a pretty consistent producer when healthy. He’s basically a slightly better Joshua type middle 6 guy that doesn’t hit as much. But he’s huge, fast skater, quick release, could really help Peteys line if he was f-1 digging out pucks. Find a UFA sniper to play the other wing. I bet Tocc and the Sedins would help round out his game.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 30 @ 12:01 AM ET
Elaborate?

Other than being injury prone - what’s the issue. He’s been a pretty consistent producer when healthy. He’s basically a slightly better Joshua type middle 6 guy that doesn’t hit as much. But he’s huge, fast skater, quick release, could really help Peteys line if he was f-1 digging out pucks. Find a UFA sniper to play the other wing. I bet Tocc and the Sedins would help round out his game.

- Brooks_Light

He is a p$ssy. Joshua is the superior player
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Jun 30 @ 12:09 AM ET
Pesce has lost 10 steps and is going to NJ anyways. I think it’s extremely unlikely Roy would consider signing in Canada. Most likely stays in LA. He would be a good fit though
- CanuckDon


Really? I never watch Carolina games. If that’s the case and they’re going elsewhere then…

If Allvin won’t fork over $$ for Z then that takes Skjei and Montour outta the equation and you’re down to guys like Kulikov, Walker, DeAngelo, Schultz.
Or even lower like Shattenkirk, Gustavson, Aho, Grezlyk, Forbort, Deshairnais,
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 30 @ 12:10 AM ET
https://www.facebook.com/...ngJDXyJe/?mibextid=WC7FNe

Prospect
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 30 @ 12:13 AM ET
Elaborate?

Other than being injury prone - what’s the issue. He’s been a pretty consistent producer when healthy. He’s basically a slightly better Joshua type middle 6 guy that doesn’t hit as much. But he’s huge, fast skater, quick release, could really help Peteys line if he was f-1 digging out pucks. Find a UFA sniper to play the other wing. I bet Tocc and the Sedins would help round out his game.

- Brooks_Light

👎due to his inconsistency. If he signed & was 100% buying into the system & culture then comes to price.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 30 @ 12:17 AM ET
Really? I never watch Carolina games. If that’s the case and they’re going elsewhere then…

If Allvin won’t fork over $$ for Z then that takes Skjei and Montour outta the equation and you’re down to guys like Kulikov, Walker, DeAngelo, Schultz.
Or even lower like Shattenkirk, Gustavson, Aho, Grezlyk, Forbort, Deshairnais,

- Brooks_Light

I don’t watch a lot of Canes either but read a few articles and paid attention to fan reaction to his play. It seems like the org had no interest in bringing him back as his play has dropped significantly. I think the team fils out the D with two guys in the Dillon range. Then add one top 6 forward and one physical 4th liner. Tight but doable
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Jun 30 @ 12:26 AM ET
He is a p$ssy. Joshua is the superior player
- CanuckDon


Manthas was a 24, 25 goal Scorer since he was 22/23yr on a terrible Wings team. Dak hasn’t come that close even as a 28 yr who’s finally hitting his stride - so no that’s not really accurate.
He averages 60-70 hits a year / that doesn’t scream pu$$y to me - pretty run of the mill - plus we don’t need him to be another Joshua - we need speed and size to F1 on EPs line - basically be a Milky except not go 60 games without scoring or creating a lick of offence. Fawk I’m happy he’s gone.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Jun 30 @ 12:27 AM ET
I don’t watch a lot of Canes either but read a few articles and paid attention to fan reaction to his play. It seems like the org had no interest in bringing him back as his play has dropped significantly. I think the team fils out the D with two guys in the Dillon range. Then add one top 6 forward and one physical 4th liner. Tight but doable
- CanuckDon


👍👍👍
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 30 @ 1:13 AM ET
They/them wouldn’t sign with your Oilers when in their prime.
- Nighthawk



'Nighthawk free zone' Bozo?

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 30 @ 1:15 AM ET
Anyone watch Tyler Bertuzzi play? I haven't but he seemingly fits the bill
- Jkuzzi

Disappeared in PO's for TO.

No thanks.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 30 @ 3:29 AM ET
From Friedman:

My guess on Chris Tanev and Toronto is six years at around $4M per season.


Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Jun 30 @ 8:10 AM ET
From Friedman:




- NewYorkNuck


I’m fine with Canucks holding a line on their numbers and letting other teams over pay stupidly on one player.

Better off for Canucks to score quality contracts spread around Debrusk, Sprong, and Roy.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 30 @ 10:18 AM ET
Picture Lefty in a Utah Yeti uni
- Nighthawk

Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Jun 30 @ 10:24 AM ET
Heard on Canuck podcast RD saying Milstein will announce on July 1 why Zadarov is moving on from Canucks. He said it’s not about money or term.

What happened?
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Jun 30 @ 10:37 AM ET
From Friedman:




- NewYorkNuck





Fantastic - let the sharks feed and overpay, and GMs keep making the same mistakes over and over.

Based on his health alone, I wouldnt give Tanev anything more than 3X3 - and i dont even feel good about that
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