I guess we’ll see. Do you think any of these players get qualified? If not do they get signed as ufa by another team?
- Hextall271

Unless the trial goes completely south for the prosecution (see the Duke Lacrosse scandal) I doubt any team signs them. The PR department of the NHL and the teams have to be puckering hard right now. Fact is, these type of charges are a stink that stays with people forever (which is why I hope the prosecutors didn’t just charge because of the pressure).

Wow. Bolts acquire Guentzel's rights for '25 3rd rd pick. Wonder if Necas stays in CAR? There will be a market for TK if available.

Also, are the Flyers bringing back the same team as last year?

Absolutely no reason to believe Laughton, Farabee, Frost or TK are being moved. Therefore, it seems the Flyers will have a slightly improved team with the addition of Michkov and the cutting of Atkinson.

So what? Pick around 15 next year?

I think projecting him to be the PHI version of Mike Richards (vs the Kings version of Mike Richards that never broke 45 pts) is a very very very optimistic projection that has only become popular since the draft (maybe go with Laughton 2.0) but he is very young and more of an unknown whereas Buium's ceiling is more realistic.

Not saying that both players can't be valuable but unless you are projecting Jett to be the franchise center, in that case the Flyers PR dept all need massive bonuses, a projected #1 defenseman is more valuable hands down.

Again, this is all projected. I am just playing the odds, much like SJ and CHI. No guarantees.
- Flyers_01

That is all you can do right now is compare the projections. If the Flyers feel differently and think that Jett has 1C upside, then explain why and help us understand why they see the player completely different than the rest of the scouting world does. Then you have to look at the Flyers scouting and their history of being capable of making off the grid picks and correctly evaluating a player versus the consensus. How much faith does one have in their ability to do so. It's not about whether Jett will be a good player. Based on the limited knowledge I have and a gut feeling, I think he will. It's actually about the process and the reasoning that they used. It seems to me to be badly flawed.

Unless the trial goes completely south for the prosecution (see the Duke Lacrosse scandal) I doubt any team signs them. The PR department of the NHL and the teams have to be puckering hard right now. Fact is, these type of charges are a stink that stays with people forever (which is why I hope the prosecutors didn’t just charge because of the pressure).
- mikeyo27

I agree. I’m pessimistic so that’s why I don’t think there’s any path to a return even if they’re doing not guilty.

Wow. Bolts acquire Guentzel's rights for '25 3rd rd pick. Wonder if Necas stays in CAR? There will be a market for TK if available.
- Trox88

There’s always been a market for TK but the Flyers just won’t trade veterans away. Tale as old as time.

Are they really any better going into next year's draft, than they were this year? They refuse to trade their "core" and will likely end up in the same general area, just missing or 1st round loss so they will be forced, if they want a pick in the top 4, to trade all 3 of those 1sts for one player and will declare it a success instead of , like SJ/CHI, using their pick on one franchise guy and using the other picks on other potential franchise guys.

Imagine how different SJ's team would be today if they had finished in the middle of the pack? And had to trade the farm for their franchise center?

Who here prefers the Flyers season to being able to draft Celebrini and Richardenson? Was the Flyers grinding through last season before tapping out due to exhaustion a better memory than missing out on franchise players who would be generating memories the next 10+ years?

Is anyone going to be telling their kids/wifes/friends about the great 2023-2024 season what great grinders they were and how they blocked shots with their faces? That last part was a nod to Ian LaPerriere. That freaking culture was Stanley Cup level. Woohoo.
- Flyers_01

SJ has also been active in the trade department, making some small moves that have potential to better the team. They acquired Ty Dellandrea, Egor Afanasyev, Carl Grundstrom and Walman with a 2nd rd pick coming their way in that deal as well. I like what they're accomplishing in San Jose.

Also, are the Flyers bringing back the same team as last year?

Absolutely no reason to believe Laughton, Farabee, Frost or TK are being moved. Therefore, it seems the Flyers will have a slightly improved team with the addition of Michkov and the cutting of Atkinson.

So what? Pick around 15 next year?
- mikeyo27

What’s it matter if they take the 22nd best prospect ?

I agree. I’m pessimistic so that’s why I don’t think there’s any path to a return even if they’re doing not guilty.
- Hextall271

Pre trial motions won’t be ruled on until just before US Thanksgiving. Should give some idea about the time frame.

Are they officially suspended? I don’t think so but I may have missed that. Seems like “on hold” status might be outside of what’s written in the CBA but maybe it was agreed upon by the nhlpa and nhl. They’re not allowed to play but not suspended.
- Hextall271

They're RFA's starting tomorrow with none of them having a current contract. That's all they are at this point. There is no basis to have any kind of back door agreement. Nor would that be ethical for the NHLPA to do so. If any of them are offered a QO and they accept. Then the league would have the basis for suspend the player, pending the outcome of the legal process.

I agree that the Flyers seem directionless at the moment, proper rebuild or re-tool and try to remain competitive, but, we’ll probably never know the truth of how things played out in the draft for them.
- Dave21Brown

I must say that I am very concerned by the pick and the rationale. I would have gone with the best rated d man and if need be stockpile it. Don’t go off the board. Stud dmen are high value commodity and hard to find. To have several isn’t a bad thing. We all know that sometimes taking the safe consensus player like we did with Patrick doesn’t pan out but this isn’t the time to be going off the board.

On a side note Kevin Hayes value is getting worse, giving up a 2 rd pick to get rid of him even at 1/2 his salary is not a good look. I didn’t think it would be possible but this makes getting a 7 round pick for him a good trade.

I hope the Flyers made the right call with Jett, awesome name, we wanted Briere to make a bold move and this might have been it. Not picking a consensus top 10 defenseman for a young rising center is a bold move. I just hope he made the right decision. Only time, 3-4 years, will tell.

They must really like the 2025 draft 5 picks in the first 2 rounds!
- Hosher12

Curious how it plays out, hope what DB sees in the player is really there.

Yea loading for 2025 and they say it is a deep draft. I hope they pick up another 1st and 2nd. If they can find a way to finish bottom

Goodness, this team is in a very bad place unless they trade TK and Laughton, fire Torts, and get a top 5 pick next year. Only then, can they work their way out of this hole. 🕳️

Curious how it plays out, hope what DB sees in the player is really there.

Yea loading for 2025 and they say it is a deep draft. I hope they pick up another 1st and 2nd. If they can find a way to finish bottom
- wcorvette

I think they assessed that this isn’t a strong draft and that’s why they got rid of the 32. By that point it’s almost a lottery ticket whereas the 25 draft is stronger. If they’d have taken zeev and then traded 32 I’d feel better about this.

With all the assets they currently have if they don’t land Askarov it will be yet another massive fail. There is zero reason not to pursue that trade. You’re supposed to build from the net out, right? Right?
- hereticpride

Do you want a top 10 pick next year?

Maybe I should have widened my scope on Michkov playing in North America in light of the uncertainty of Kosolov. This year should be about Michkov being very comfortable with his surroundings.

As far as Buium, 2 top 15 picks used the college rule to go pound sand to the clubs drafted them very recently. Maybe it's a coincidence or an anvenue more collge kids will use to get a preferred destination. I do think a certain amount of GMs are unwilling to take that gamble. Bill Guerin was not one of them.
- Trox88

I think buium plays for or lives in Minnesota anyway so he's probably happy to play close to home.
It's an interesting point about buiums agent being who he is as well as another college kid has stayed in school just to play for the team that they want to play for upon completing college.
I wonder how these moves will impact the next CBA

I think they assessed that this isn’t a strong draft and that’s why they got rid of the 32. By that point it’s almost a lottery ticket whereas the 25 draft is stronger. If they’d have taken zeev and then traded 32 I’d feel better about this.
- Hextall271

I'm perfectly fine with what they did with the 32nd pick. I see that as a good move.

I'm perfectly fine with what they did with the 32nd pick. I see that as a good move.
- MJL

Agreed. I can’t figure out why they reached so much for their 13 pick though. Hopefully they see something we don’t and are just not sharing.

I think buium plays for or lives in Minnesota anyway so he's probably happy to play close to home.
It's an interesting point about buiums agent being who he is as well as another college kid has stayed in school just to play for the team that they want to play for upon completing college.
I wonder how these moves will impact the next CBA
- Bob Habib

I wonder if the cutter situation has anything to do with it. Interesting coincidence and I’m sure that overhardt may very well harbour some resentment over how the CG situation she down

I'm perfectly fine with what they did with the 32nd pick. I see that as a good move.
- MJL

A team that has 3 1st rd picks, not made the playoffs in years, buried 5 million in salary in the minors, probably 10.25 million in LTIR, 3.5 million retained salary, and buyouts 4 million. One would think this team is definitely in the Hagans sweepstakes. Unfortunately, I do not know for sure this is what is happening. Absolute craziness.

A team that has 3 1st rd picks, not made the playoffs in years, buried 5 million in salary in the minors, probably 10.25 million in LTIR, 3.5 million retained salary, and buyouts 4 million. One would think this team is definitely in the Hagans sweepstakes. Unfortunately, I do not know for sure this is what is happening. Absolute craziness.
- Trox88

That's the contrast, right? A team in that position is rebuilding and should do everything they can to increase the odds of acquiring future elite talent. Yet they won't and some jackass Flyers fans think the team is moving in the correct direction. The correct direction at this point in time is not forward. It's backwards.

San Jose traded up with Buffalo, right before the pick. It cost them a 2nd rounder, because they really did want Richardenson.

Buffalo was more than willing to trade that pick and did , to the team that actually wanted Richardenson. The rest is all PR.

https://www.nhl.com/sabre...se-sharks-trade-nhl-draft
- Flyers_01

Not true, San Jose made that trade on Thursday in the middle of the afternoon, not right before the pick was made. They made their move to get the player they wanted.

That's the contrast, right? A team in that position is rebuilding and should do everything they can to increase the odds of acquiring future elite talent. Yet they won't and some jackass Flyers fans think the team is moving in the correct direction. The correct direction at this point in time is not forward. It's backwards.
- MJL

When I write it all out, it just seems so obvious. I have little doubt Briere tried to get to #4 and offered a boatload. Hockey GMs are just risk averse. Only way to get a top 5 talent is to scuttle a season. Or have a unique situation like Michkov, which seldom happens. I have no idea if Jett will be a good or bad pick. Possible top 6 center talent is years away. I will hold out hope they will be in the Hagans sweepstakes. I am prepared for the worst.

https://www.msn.com/en-us...41c1b7c117cfe51719e2&ei=7

"I still expect [free agency] to be slow," Briere admitted. "It can always change, but I expect it to be slow. Even with buying out Cam [Atkinson]—we had no choice but to buy out Cam just to put us in a decent position. We're not out of the woods with the salary cap, so don't expect much."

had no choice lol.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nhl/danny-briere-reflects-on-second-draft-day-speaks-on-flyers-free-agency-plans/ar-BB1p9Lsz?ocid=msedgntp&pc=EDGEDB&cvid=83dc3d431e3541c1b7c117cfe51719e2&ei=7

"I still expect
- hello it's me 2050[free agency] to be slow," Briere admitted. "It can always change, but I expect it to be slow. Even with buying out Cam [Atkinson]—we had no choice but to buy out Cam just to put us in a decent position. We're not out of the woods with the salary cap, so don't expect much."

had no choice lol.

Yup and that will be the quote in a couple years when Michkov is ready for his extension and the Flyers are still paying TK and Couts close to like $17-18 million.