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FWIW... Seravalli saying no QO for Carter Hart.

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FWIW... Seravalli saying no QO for Carter Hart.
- BaronVonShiznit

Probably the smart move

2024 Under the Microscope article

https://www.nhl.com/flyer...e-flyers-2024-draft-class
- bmeltzer

They might have drafted jet in the top 5 based on his “200 ft game”

It’s not about Luchanko at all. It’s about passing on a potential 1D. I’d be pissed regardless of who they took, Helenius, Luchanko, etc. When you have the opportunity to draft a potential 1D, you take it 100% of the time. Honestly, it’s why passing on Caufield to draft York, while not sexy, was still a logical decision.

To those saying oh well they have 3 firsts in ‘25 and can get their 1D then, that’s unlikely. There are fewer highly rated defenseman at the top of next years draft. This year had an abundance of them. Next years draft is significantly deeper at C. They could have ended Friday night with a potential 1D in their system and the 3 1st rd picks in 25. Then next year they could potentially get a 1C and a 2C.

But here’s the thing, Flahr was quoted as saying those picks could always get moved. Do any of us honestly believe they’ll actually use those picks? It would not surprise me to see the Flyers try to upgrade their roster by trading some of those picks.

There wasn’t a single rumor about a TK trade all week/weekend. Only names that came up were Farabee, Frost, and briefly Laughton earlier with the Ottawa rumor. That tells me TK wasn’t available in any of the move up scenarios and they are definitely going to resign him. That’s not what rebuilding teams do.

I sit here and try to think, is there a team in the NHL worse off than the Flyers right now? Only 2 teams come to mind, Caps and Pens. Both of those teams are delusional and still in win now mode even though they have no shot.

There was so much potential 48 hrs ago. I sit here now dejected at the thought of another regime that doesn’t get it. 4.5 years of failure under Hexy, 4.5 years of failure under Fletch, we are a year into Briere and things are now looking a lot less promising than a year ago. I wonder, are we just now ticking down the clock until mid season 27/28 when the Flyers are aimlessly sitting 6 pts out of a WC spot and Briere is dismissed, and we start another retool?
- Schmojo

It doesn’t really matter. We trade away any defenseman of value for no reason. We didn’t have to trade Provorov, but we did. Then instead of continuing to sell we stopped. So we sold a young first pairing dman and now we are in need of a young first pairing dman. We got a decent return for him but it opened another hole.

Defensemen are the hardest thing for the flyers to find or develop. They lack the patience to develop them and often sell them when their value is very low or they just let them walk. This team can’t manage assets to save their lives.

https://x.com/frank_seravalli/status/1807510163378573672

FWIW... Seravalli saying no QO for Carter Hart.
- BaronVonShiznit

The sad part is even if he is found innocent or not guilty, whichever you prefer, his career is most likely over. Yeah we could see a feel good story in a few years, but I doubt it.

Honestly I would love to just hear his side, but that will never come out.

Still waiting to find one, just one, scouting report, prospect publication or any experts list of prospects that ranked Luchanko ahead of either Buium or even Helenius.

The Flyers always think they are the smartest guys in the room. How’s that been working out for them the past 12 years?
- BiggE

They would be better off just letting the fans vote on what to do. The franchise has been run into the ground at this point.

I would assume that if the Flyers are going to be involved in any transactions, they won’t occur until some of the dust settles in free agency. After all why trade something for a player if you can get a comparable player for just the contract

Winning teams make the hard decisions. Look at Tampa. While not popular they moved Aergachev and are letting Stamkos go so they can resign Hedman, entertain Guenztle and remain in the upper echelon of competitive teams. Flyers will hang on to middle 6 guys like Laughton, and overpay and tie up money on an aging TK when they should be using/saving that money for younger assets now and assets down the road.
- mikeyo27

It’s unbelievable. Unbelievable

“The biggest aim in this year's draft was to "secure
- Schmojo[the] centerman position a little better," a feat achieved by using three of their first four selections to acquire centers.”

In a draft that everyone said was weaker at the center position than avg, their focus was the center position. Gross negligence.

The flyers have been jamming square blocks into round holes for 30+ years. We all should know better

They would be better off just letting the fans vote on what to do. The franchise has been run into the ground at this point.
- Sir_Robot_Farts

An interesting idea for your 7th round pick. Let the fans be involved. Would a team be so bold to try it?

It’s unbelievable. Unbelievable
- Just5

Let’s all agree to use status quo from now on. Save a lot of typing and we all know what it means

An interesting idea for your 7th round pick. Let the fans be involved. Would a team be so bold to try it?
- furio16

This team should do it for 1st rounder

Brannstrom > Zamula, Attard, Ginning, Risto, and Andrae. Do not care about the optics, an easy upgrade that can fit the Michkov timeline. Swallow your pride and put the team first.

Brannstrom > Zamula, Attard, Ginning, Risto, and Andrae. Do not care about the optics, an easy upgrade that can fit the Michkov timeline. Swallow your pride and put the team first.
- Trox88

Meh. he's an offensive defenseman that isn't very good offensively.

Winning teams make the hard decisions. Look at Tampa. While not popular they moved Aergachev and are letting Stamkos go so they can resign Hedman, entertain Guenztle and remain in the upper echelon of competitive teams. Flyers will hang on to middle 6 guys like Laughton, and overpay and tie up money on an aging TK when they should be using/saving that money for younger assets now and assets down the road.
- mikeyo27

if he leaves I bet no free agents will go there seeing how the treated an icon......

Agree on your synopsis of their first pick. I like Jett. At 17 it’s hard to project. He definitely has the tools. It’s also what a so called rebuilding team is in no position to do…Reach in the 1rst round.
I must admit I came into this week thinking this was a week DB could really change the direction of the franchise and kick start his vision and plan.
I come out knowing his path is not an actually rebuild at all and my expectations of what I think he’s capable of have been lowered.
At least I get to look forward to Michkov.
- landros2

How is picking the best available C on your board that you ranked comparably with players in other positions a reach? By all account, Luchenko was going to be picked before 20, and the Flyers got their guy at 13. I was more disappointed with the Flyers not trading up from 32 and getting Solberg. In the end, the only conclusion I can make is the Flyers really didn't like this draft class that much and are looking to 2025.

In 2019, many complained that Flahr and Fletcher picked York over Caufield. Now four years later, York was the right pick. In 2020, people complained about picking Tyson Foerster who many stated could not skate well enough to be in the NHL. This past season Foerster got Calder and Selke votes. 2021 the Flyers had no first round pick. In 2022 many complained the Flyers should have picked Jiricek over Gauthier. The jury is out on this one but based on what I read on this forum, there are a lot of Gauthier fans these days. In 2023 many complained the Flyers should not have picked Bonk who was projected as a 2nd rounder, and wanted the Flyers to draft Gabe Perrault. Now after Bonk's +1 year, many can't wait for him to get to the Flyers. Now in 2024 many are complaining that the Flyers picked Luchenko over Buium.

My point is Flahr's first round picks have been criticized since day 1 with the Flyers, but in the end Flahr has done a damn good job picking in the 1st round. I am going to make a bold prediction. Luchenko is going to have a monster +1 year and make the Flyers roster out of camp in the 2025 season.

Boqvist bought out by Columbus.

Flyers should be interested but he's only 6'0.
- Tomahawk

Could be the Sean Walker of the summer.

When is Zamula gonna get a qualifying offer?

That is all you can do right now is compare the projections. If the Flyers feel differently and think that Jett has 1C upside, then explain why and help us understand why they see the player completely different than the rest of the scouting world does. Then you have to look at the Flyers scouting and their history of being capable of making off the grid picks and correctly evaluating a player versus the consensus. How much faith does one have in their ability to do so. It's not about whether Jett will be a good player. Based on the limited knowledge I have and a gut feeling, I think he will. It's actually about the process and the reasoning that they used. It seems to me to be badly flawed.
- MJL

The rest of the scouting world? How many of the so-called scouts in that "scouting world" are actual full time scouts working for NHL teams? How often has that scouting world been wrong about a player? Didn't that same scouting world state in 2017 that it was the Nolan Patrick draft? Or how about in 2022, didn't they call that the Shane Wright draft? Why can't you accept that the Flyers scouting concensus was they wanted Jett over Buium? They may be wrong, who knows. Its useless to lament until we see how it turns out.

JETT WOOOOOOOOOOOO just signed.

Flyers should pick him up in 5-6 years so they have a double Jett on the team!

Hey Utah,

You look like you want to make some noise! You should trade for Travis Konecny for your 2025 1st and Victor Söderström.

Cuddles,

DB

P.S. I love your logo!

Very nice review of Luchenko: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urWyNZ3pwyQ

Very nice review of Luchenko: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urWyNZ3pwyQ
- jd250

Another cool review of a scouting report:

We don’t know if German Rubtsov is representative of some sort of new breed of Russian-trained forward. What is clearly apparent to us is how “North American” his overall game is, and he’s arguably the 2016 draft’s best two-way forward. Rubtsov has been Russia’s go-to guy when it comes to matching up against top opponents, and why not? He’s been blessed with size and what seems like adult strength despite being only 17 years old. Rubtsov has had plenty of international exposure, winning gold at the 2014 U17’s and contributing mightily to the Russian U18 entry which nearly knocked off Team Canada at the Hlinka semifinals. He was rewarded with a place on the U20 roster for the Four Nations in November, but was kept off Russia’s preliminary list for the 2016 World Junior Championship. He took this disappointment in stride, however, as his two-way play and penchant for stepping up guided the U19 team to the gold medal game at the World Junior “A” Challenge.

He is a very strong skater with excellent acceleration and balance. But mix in his mobility with strength and tenacity, and you get a coach’s dream. Rubtsov is a “big play” center who preys on the weak, and his superior playmaking ability and vision enables him to be used in key situations regardless of which end of the scoreboard his team is on. He’s an extremely competitive leader who will involve himself physically if the game is in need of a momentum shift. Rubtsov has a very good shot which he can wire off his back foot or unload via a slapper, and while he is very accurate in terms of getting it on net, we has a tendency to look for the pass as a primary course of action.


Noooo it's not for Jett.

My point is Flahr's first round picks have been criticized since day 1 with the Flyers, but in the end Flahr has done a damn good job picking in the 1st round. I am going to make a bold prediction. Luchenko is going to have a monster +1 year and make the Flyers roster out of camp in the 2025 season.
- jd250

You continue to oversell and overrate Flahr as a drafter. Luchenko having a big year in juniors next season, won't change the decision making that the Flyers used in this draft in passing up a higher rated player. He is 17, going on 18. There is little chance that he makes the Flyers in 2025. He is likely at least 4 years away from playing in the NHL full time.