Zib or Trocheck? Is he even number 1 on your own team? Haha
- TPC

Last year, Trocheck was better but before that.
? We’re not gonna base everything on one Bad season are we?

Last year, Trocheck was better but before that.
? We’re not gonna base everything on one Bad season are we?
- Greschnergy#4

I mean Zib was a no show vs the devils and got dominated vs the lightning too. If your basis is strictly regular season then fine. But he has struggled the most going up against other top centers in the playoffs. That’s all I really care about at this point. He’s paid to be a top 10 center. But keeps getting outplayed in the playoffs.

Last year, Trocheck was better but before that.
? We’re not gonna base everything on one Bad season are we?
- Greschnergy#4

Cap hit vs cap hit for what they bring, I’m taking Trocheck if I’m building a team from scratch.

I mean Zib was a no show vs the devils and got dominated vs the lightning too. If your basis is strictly regular season then fine. But he has struggled the most going up against other top centers in the playoffs. That’s all I really care about at this point. He’s paid to be a top 10 center. But keeps getting outplayed in the playoffs.
- TPC

I think your critique is harsh.I,ll let someone else stick up for him.

And Btw - Trocheck was a disaster in 2022-2023 and is now my favorite Ranger.

Cap hit vs cap hit for what they bring, I’m taking Trocheck if I’m building a team from scratch.
- nyrangers9479

You couldn’t sign vinny today for what he is making now

Scary that at age 31 people think he is done. Ridiculous
- Greschnergy#4

I dont think hes done, I just dont think hes a #1 center. Matter of fact, I honestly dont know why we call that line the 1st line.

I think your critique is harsh.I,ll let someone else stick up for him.

And Btw - Trocheck was a disaster in 2022-2023 and is now my favorite Ranger.
- Greschnergy#4

It’s ok to disagree lol. He’s a good player. Just don’t think he is that top line center we paid for

It’s ok to disagree lol. He’s a good player. Just don’t think he is that top line center we paid for
- TPC

He scored 91 points and 39 goal the year before this one. He once had 41 goals in 57 games

Here we are again, putting the weight of the world on a 20 year old that hasnt played a single minute in the NHL expecting him to be the missing piece here.

If you want to trade for him, go for it, Im all for it. But to throw him out there right out the gate as 1RW, its deja vu for me, and a critical mistake. Play him in the AHL, if he forces your hand, than so be it, great.
- aecliptic

and his position at Michigan was LW.......

I dont think hes done, I just dont think hes a #1 center. Matter of fact, I honestly dont know why we call that line the 1st line.
- aecliptic

Its not important on this team - both the 1st and 2nd lines were roughly playing the same amount of minutes.

He scored 91 points and 39 goal the year before this one. He once had 41 goals in 57 games
- Greschnergy#4

What I see is a. regular season success and b. all in past tense.

Its ok to admit that he is not a playoff performer.

What I see is a. regular season success and b. all in past tense.

Its ok to admit that he is not a playoff performer.
- aecliptic

Whatever dude - you do you and Ill do me

Whatever dude - you do you and Ill do me
- Greschnergy#4

lol you’re in the wrong place defending Zib. I’m with you tho.

63 pts in 74 playoff games isn’t that terrible 🤷🏻‍♂️

Whatever dude - you do you and Ill do me
- Greschnergy#4

I mean im glad you back him this strong. He is here for 6 more years no matter what. So we need him to figure it out

I mean im glad you back him this strong. He is here for 6 more years no matter what. So we need him to figure it out
- TPC

Draisitl getting zero goals vs Florida takes zib off the hook a little bit imo. Florida is good at covering centers. McDavid doesn’t count because no one can cover him consistently

lol you’re in the wrong place defending Zib. I’m with you tho.

63 pts in 74 playoff games isn’t that terrible 🤷🏻‍♂️
- Slimtj100

I think the totals can be skewed a bit. He doesn’t seem to score those goals/pts in big games/when it matters. When we win 5-2 it seems he has 3-4 pts but then in the tight games it seems he isn’t noticeable.

Small example, but like Kane in the playoffs for us last year. 6 pts in 7 games, seems pretty good. But then u look, no pts in the last 3 games (we lost 2 of the 3). His only goal (if I remember correctly) was when we were up 3-1 or 4-1 already in the 3rd. Kind of a “stat” goal and not really an important one.

And for the record, I’m not trying to start the whole Kane debate again, just using that small sample to explain the type of points I feel Zib, for the most part, gets in the playoffs.

Crunch time or tight games and it seems he’s not even out there.

I think the totals can be skewed a bit. He doesn’t seem to score those goals/pts in big games/when it matters. When we win 5-2 it seems he has 3-4 pts but then in the tight games it seems he isn’t noticeable.

Small example, but like Kane in the playoffs for us last year. 6 pts in 7 games, seems pretty good. But then u look, no pts in the last 3 games (we lost 2 of the 3). His only goal (if I remember correctly) was when we were up 3-1 or 4-1 already in the 3rd. Kind of a “stat” goal and not really an important one.

And for the record, I’m not trying to start the whole Kane debate again, just using that small sample to explain the type of points I feel Zib, for the most part, gets in the playoffs.

Crunch time or tight games and it seems he’s not even out there.
- nyrangers9479

I think certain guys get singled out here and certain guys are teflon to criticism. Zib might be the most singled out out of everyone

We might not even sniff a wild card without Zibanejad. Nor do we get past the canes

I mean im glad you back him this strong. He is here for 6 more years no matter what. So we need him to figure it out
- TPC

Oy vey. That’s a looooooooong time. Hope he starts shooting again before that’s up

Draisitl getting zero goals vs Florida takes zib off the hook a little bit imo. Florida is good at covering centers. McDavid doesn’t count because no one can cover him consistently
- Slimtj100

Yep he deserves criticism too, comes with the territory

Oy vey. That’s a looooooooong time. Hope he starts shooting again before that’s up
- picklerick

Lol yea it’s not ideal it’s only year 2 of the contract and half the fan base wants him gone

I just want a damn legit top 6 right wing. Been wanting one for 3 offseasons now

Lol yea it’s not ideal it’s only year 2 of the contract and half the fan base wants him gone
- TPC

I just want to not have to scream “goddamnit zib (frank)ing shoot that” 3+ times a game

I just want a damn legit top 6 right wing. Been wanting one for 3 offseasons now
- TPC

Kakko and Kravtsov had a lot to do with that tho. Meaning guys being traded and or not re-signed. Ie- Vatrano. For all things Drury gets heat for, that might be the worst decision of all. He made a steal of trade to get him and let’s him walk for peanuts essentially

I think the totals can be skewed a bit. He doesn’t seem to score those goals/pts in big games/when it matters. When we win 5-2 it seems he has 3-4 pts but then in the tight games it seems he isn’t noticeable.

Small example, but like Kane in the playoffs for us last year. 6 pts in 7 games, seems pretty good. But then u look, no pts in the last 3 games (we lost 2 of the 3). His only goal (if I remember correctly) was when we were up 3-1 or 4-1 already in the 3rd. Kind of a “stat” goal and not really an important one.

And for the record, I’m not trying to start the whole Kane debate again, just using that small sample to explain the type of points I feel Zib, for the most part, gets in the playoffs.

Crunch time or tight games and it seems he’s not even out there.
- nyrangers9479

You mean like McDavid laying a goose egg in the two most important games of his life!

You mean like McDavid laying a goose egg in the two most important games of his life!
- Greschnergy#4

You can only be Houdini for so long