shack67
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Location: NS Joined: 07.05.2015
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Yeah if you make it up the 599, I can point you to some camping spots.
Lots to see around Thunder Bay tho.. it’s underrated imo. - Horsey Sauce
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fifty__missions
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Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON Joined: 02.12.2013
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Think right now its get a feel at the development camp and see what the Hakanpaa sitch is. IF he cant go then likely have to look at a trade to replace him.
Up front think Steeves, Cowan and Minten will press into spots so dont see us as worse without Bert. Especially with Domi back. Think the you ger guys may not be as physical but they skate a hell of a lot better and if they fit Berube's style more great.
If you can move Kampf and get Sprong cheap could be a nice upgrade too.
Tre got options and plenty of time here to sort things out from Marner to Hak etc - Roadrunner75
So, he's got lots of options to complete the runniest of all Leaf run backs yet?
More great! |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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The issue with moving Kampf is that the Leafs have no centremen in the system and there are no FA's worth looking into left. |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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Im ready for Stampede to be over - drexel
Ya its 2024...no need for adutls to pretend they are cowboys. |
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GalacticStone
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: We shoulda let Uncle Billy finish the job. Joined: 01.29.2013
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The issue with moving Kampf is that the Leafs have no centremen in the system and there are no FA's worth looking into left. - AdamFrench
Tyler Johnson is still out there, but he's not the player he was. He would be an offensive upgrade over Kampf on the 4th line, but he's not as good defensively. On the upside, he would probably sign cheaper than Kampf. He is not gonna get a contract anywhere near his old one.
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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Tyler Johnson is still out there, but he's not the player he was. He would be an offensive upgrade over Kampf on the 4th line, but he's not as good defensively. On the upside, he would probably sign cheaper than Kampf. He is not gonna get a contract anywhere near his old one. - GalacticStone
Just what they need. Having the penalty kill be all wingers again. That worked out great in the past |
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drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Name the Traitors!, AB Joined: 06.29.2006
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Ya its 2024...no need for adutls to pretend they are cowboys. - Fakepartofme
well Im fine with actual cowboys being cowboys. AND now Hawk Tuah is making an appearance! |
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Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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The issue with moving Kampf is that the Leafs have no centremen in the system and there are no FA's worth looking into left. - AdamFrench
There's a fractional return on these Kampf/Jarnkrok proposals that people make.
Kampf is overpaid but probably by $500 - 800k. If you want to move out Kampf and replace him with an equal value guy who's currently making $1.6m - who is that guy and why would the other team want to trade him? Like a semi breakdown of the lineup (this wouldn't happen, I don't think, but Domi worked well with Matthews - Knies provides size on the wall, and a great sense for the net, and Marner working with JT & Willy could make that 2nd line very dangerous with some more defensive responsibility):
Knies - Matthews - Domi
Nylander - Tavares - Marner
McMann - Kampf - Jarnkrok
?? - Holmberg - Reaves
Robertson is unsigned and has requested a trade. The opportunity for him is that the 2LW spot is up for grabs if Berube wants Domi on the 3rd line.
Dewar is asking for $1.3m in arbitration and I think he's going to get it based on the 11 goals he scored last year - but at 5'10 / 170lbs, is he a guy Berube would want on a checking line?
Right now, depending on the status of Hakanpaa, Liljegren or Timmins are probably on the move as would Robertson be. There is money for a Kampf upgrade - but I can't figure who that would be. Teams that not upwardly mobile right now are likely that way because of a weakness down the middle . . .I don't see Columbus giving up their captain with so many young guys to steward, I don't see Anaheim moving their youth, I don't see anyone realistic on Utah. Now if Calgary wants to work out a deal where they retain $3m on Kadri, I'm all for it - but they're eating $2m on Markstrom for 2 years. They're not eating more than $2m on Kadri for 5 years - if at all. I also don't think they have any centres in their farm waiting to step in.
I don't know. At the moment I don't see it.
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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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Ya its 2024...no need for adutls to pretend they are cowboys. - Fakepartofme
Sure are a lot of professional baseball players out on the streets these days |
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TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.24.2013
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Yeah if you make it up the 599, I can point you to some camping spots.
Lots to see around Thunder Bay tho.. it’s underrated imo. - Horsey Sauce
Lake superior north shoreline is some of the most beautiful poop i seen in my life |
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GalacticStone
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: We shoulda let Uncle Billy finish the job. Joined: 01.29.2013
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Just what they need. Having the penalty kill be all wingers again. That worked out great in the past - AdamFrench
Johnson is a center but can play wing. He used to be very good on draws when he centered the Triplets line, but then Kane broke his wrist with a slash and he was never the same after that. His faceoff and shooting percentage dropped. Makes me wonder if it didn't do permanent damage to that wrist. |
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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 01.29.2008
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I keep waiting for more moves. Is the Haaktuah medical clearance gumming up the works, or is this pretty much it?
This D looks improved as long as Tanev holds up, but it's not a major improvement. There are still guys in higher pairings than they should be.
- GalacticStone
Gotta assume they're done with D unless Hak ptua is out or they want to deal Lilly.
Otherwise I imagine they like ..
Rielly-Tanev
Benoit-McCabe
OEL-Lilly/Hak'tui
Need a middle-six centre. |
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GalacticStone
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: We shoulda let Uncle Billy finish the job. Joined: 01.29.2013
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well Im fine with actual cowboys being cowboys. AND now Hawk Tuah is making an appearance! - drexel
Is there at least one confederate flag flying? If not, it's not a proper rodeo in any country.
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GalacticStone
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: We shoulda let Uncle Billy finish the job. Joined: 01.29.2013
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There's a fractional return on these Kampf/Jarnkrok proposals that people make.
Kampf is overpaid but probably by $500 - 800k. If you want to move out Kampf and replace him with an equal value guy who's currently making $1.6m - who is that guy and why would the other team want to trade him? Like a semi breakdown of the lineup (this wouldn't happen, I don't think, but Domi worked well with Matthews - Knies provides size on the wall, and a great sense for the net, and Marner working with JT & Willy could make that 2nd line very dangerous with some more defensive responsibility):
Knies - Matthews - Domi
Nylander - Tavares - Marner
McMann - Kampf - Jarnkrok
?? - Holmberg - Reaves
Robertson is unsigned and has requested a trade. The opportunity for him is that the 2LW spot is up for grabs if Berube wants Domi on the 3rd line.
Dewar is asking for $1.3m in arbitration and I think he's going to get it based on the 11 goals he scored last year - but at 5'10 / 170lbs, is he a guy Berube would want on a checking line?
Right now, depending on the status of Hakanpaa, Liljegren or Timmins are probably on the move as would Robertson be. There is money for a Kampf upgrade - but I can't figure who that would be. Teams that not upwardly mobile right now are likely that way because of a weakness down the middle . . .I don't see Columbus giving up their captain with so many young guys to steward, I don't see Anaheim moving their youth, I don't see anyone realistic on Utah. Now if Calgary wants to work out a deal where they retain $3m on Kadri, I'm all for it - but they're eating $2m on Markstrom for 2 years. They're not eating more than $2m on Kadri for 5 years - if at all. I also don't think they have any centres in their farm waiting to step in.
I don't know. At the moment I don't see it. - Monkeypunk
What if you could get Tyler Johnson for league minimum or near it?
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Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC Joined: 07.11.2006
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well Im fine with actual cowboys being cowboys. AND now Hawk Tuah is making an appearance! - drexel
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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- Skalapy
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mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Vancouver Island, BC Joined: 01.18.2015
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There's a fractional return on these Kampf/Jarnkrok proposals that people make.
Kampf is overpaid but probably by $500 - 800k. If you want to move out Kampf and replace him with an equal value guy who's currently making $1.6m - who is that guy and why would the other team want to trade him? Like a semi breakdown of the lineup (this wouldn't happen, I don't think, but Domi worked well with Matthews - Knies provides size on the wall, and a great sense for the net, and Marner working with JT & Willy could make that 2nd line very dangerous with some more defensive responsibility):
Knies - Matthews - Domi
Nylander - Tavares - Marner
McMann - Kampf - Jarnkrok
?? - Holmberg - Reaves
Robertson is unsigned and has requested a trade. The opportunity for him is that the 2LW spot is up for grabs if Berube wants Domi on the 3rd line.
Dewar is asking for $1.3m in arbitration and I think he's going to get it based on the 11 goals he scored last year - but at 5'10 / 170lbs, is he a guy Berube would want on a checking line?
Right now, depending on the status of Hakanpaa, Liljegren or Timmins are probably on the move as would Robertson be. There is money for a Kampf upgrade - but I can't figure who that would be. Teams that not upwardly mobile right now are likely that way because of a weakness down the middle . . .I don't see Columbus giving up their captain with so many young guys to steward, I don't see Anaheim moving their youth, I don't see anyone realistic on Utah. Now if Calgary wants to work out a deal where they retain $3m on Kadri, I'm all for it - but they're eating $2m on Markstrom for 2 years. They're not eating more than $2m on Kadri for 5 years - if at all. I also don't think they have any centres in their farm waiting to step in.
I don't know. At the moment I don't see it. - Monkeypunk
Lundestrom 1.8m
Trade Lundy + prospect for Robertson Kampf
Add Lilly for a bigger deal if necessary
EZPZ |
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Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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What if you could get Tyler Johnson for league minimum or near it? - GalacticStone
He's aging, but has skill and knows how to score. The biggest knock on Johnson is his size. The concern I'd have is that the Leafs already have too many guys who fail to stand up to the grind - which is already my concern with Dewar. I think Johnson, even in decline, has more skill than Dewar ever will, but both are undersized. If you want to get heavier or meaner in the bottom-6 neither one really fits the bill.
Obviously for a near league min deal - or a buriable deal - he seems like someone you'd take a flier on. I'm guessing that the reason he's still unsigned is that he wants more than he's worth.
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Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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Lundestrom 1.8m
Trade Lundy + prospect for Robertson Kampf
Add Lilly for a bigger deal if necessary
EZPZ - mr.sir
Is Robertson worth more than Lundestrom? Because Kampf is a cap dump part of that deal? Why would they include a prospect to take our garbage? They don't have a lot of centres after Lundestrom - and giving up a 24 year old centre who has some upside for a 29 centre with very little upside doesn't feel like a solid rebuilding type of move - unless you really value Robertson.
If you talk Liljegren, he has value - but Anaheim is already pretty full on D. He would block the progression of their younger guys like Zellweger and Mintukov. I like Lilly much more than Vaakanainen, but they did _just_ sign him.
And all of that for what is a marginal potential upgrade. I don't think, as an example, that Lundestrom can shut down or compete as well as Kampf does (yet), and I don't think Kampf is as good at it as everyone has said.
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.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS Joined: 07.05.2010
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Is Robertson worth more than Lundestrom? Because Kampf is a cap dump part of that deal? Why would they include a prospect to take our garbage? They don't have a lot of centres after Lundestrom - and giving up a 24 year old centre who has some upside for a 29 centre with very little upside doesn't feel like a solid rebuilding type of move - unless you really value Robertson.
If you talk Liljegren, he has value - but Anaheim is already pretty full on D. He would block the progression of their younger guys like Zellweger and Mintukov. I like Lilly much more than Vaakanainen, but they did _just_ sign him.
And all of that for what is a marginal potential upgrade. I don't think, as an example, that Lundestrom can shut down or compete as well as Kampf does (yet), and I don't think Kampf is as good at it as everyone has said. - Monkeypunk
Anaheim wouldn’t do that in a million years.
It’s a retarded “Mr. Sir” trade proposal.
Waste of internet space. 🤮
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GalacticStone
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: We shoulda let Uncle Billy finish the job. Joined: 01.29.2013
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He's aging, but has skill and knows how to score. The biggest knock on Johnson is his size. The concern I'd have is that the Leafs already have too many guys who fail to stand up to the grind - which is already my concern with Dewar. I think Johnson, even in decline, has more skill than Dewar ever will, but both are undersized. If you want to get heavier or meaner in the bottom-6 neither one really fits the bill.
Obviously for a near league min deal - or a buriable deal - he seems like someone you'd take a flier on. I'm guessing that the reason he's still unsigned is that he wants more than he's worth. - Monkeypunk
I wouldn't mind Johnson coming back to Tampa, if he would sign cheap. As you said, he probably wants more than he is worth. His last contract was $5m-ish, so taking $2.5m is a significant cut in his mind, less yet taking a Spezza type deal. His size is a concern, as is his age.
I'd give him Whorey Fairy or Fat Maroon money ($1m-ish on one or two years) and I think that would be a good risk. If he can produce 10-15g and 30-ish points in the bottom six, along with some spot duty higher in the lineup on occasion, it would be good.
Maybe as the season gets closer and he's still unsigned, he might tell his agent to take what he can get... |
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Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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Jumbo chili dogs into my face hole |
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Mike Augello
Commissioner Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 06.25.2006
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Lake superior north shoreline is some of the most beautiful poop i seen in my life - TheMussel
Yeah it’s nice.
Somehow it’s still a hidden gem. Pukaskwa NP, Ouimet Canyon, Sleeping Giant are all unreal. Very Canadiana too. Group of 7ish. |
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Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 05.31.2021
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The issue with moving Kampf is that the Leafs have no centremen in the system and there are no FA's worth looking into left. - AdamFrench
Leafs: Sissons (2.8 AAV) + Gudas (4 AAV) + Askarov, retain 2 AAV on Tavares
Anaheim: Retain 4.5 AAV on Tavares + Glass + Liljegren + Robertson
Nashville: Tavares @ 4.5 AAV, Cowan, 1st round pick
Everybody wins.
Sign Sprong @ 3.75 AAV, Clutterbuck @ 1 AAV, Bortuzzo @ 1 AAV, Tierney and Comtois @ 900K.
Sprong / Matthews / Marner
Knies / Domi / Nylander
McMann / Sissons / Jarnkrok
Comtois / Kampf / Clutterbuck
Tierney
Rielly / Tanev
OEL / Gudas
McCabe / Hakanpaa (Healthy?)
Benoit / Bortuzzo
Woll / Askarov / Stolarz / Murray
Issue resolved. |
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