RYJO on the injured list which was approved by flyers and nhl doctors. Now a material breech at the end of august.

Cant wait to see how this shakes out and what the breech ends up being. If it is ruled the flyers were wrong in trying to terminate the contract any repercussions for them?

Eh, if a respected guy like MacKinnon had to go out of his way to tell management he doesn’t want this guy in his locker room I’m not sure I’d want him here either. You get rid of a guy like Hayes and then make the same mistake by bringing in a guy like RyJo with a reputation at this stage of his career just wouldn’t make sense to me.
- anti-lame

My first question becomes, what did Ryan Johansson do that was so bad? I personally don’t believe in “good guys” or “respected men”. I do believe in egos though. Just give an explanation so we can all move on, which nobody wants to do these days.

It isnt that he doesnt want to, they say he isnt ready to. He allegedly wants just 1 year in Russia. So the plan would be to come over next season if the Flyers cave which I think they probably do.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

It burns another year of his ELC. Which I do not think the Flyers want to do. If he wasn't ready, he should not have taken the money associated with the contract. If he is going to develop into an NHL prospect, The Flyers would most likely want him learning the North American game vs the European game. They have a spot for him to develop.
Now if he decides to play in the KHL, that KHL team wishes to go against whatever international agreements are in place he can do that. The Flyers will toll the contract and he'll have to sign a contract with that KHL team. When he decides he wants to play in North America, the Flyers will still retain his rights.
What isn't cool is the idea that somehow the flyers are treating him poorly. He is asking to get paid by the flyers but play for another team. The Flyers already did that, went out of their way to make him comfortable but that has it's limits.
If he decides to play another year in Russia, I do not think the Flyers are being unrealistic in tolling his contract. Nor would I hold it against him if he decided to come back in the following years. However as we see Fedotov a 27 year old Goalie try to switch over immediatley from international experience, you can see why learning the North American game earlier rather than later would increase his value to the Flyers.

I’m sorry but they traded for Johansson and because Torts and him butt heads forever ago, you’re not even gonna try to play him? This team isn’t good enough to just throw players away, especially centers. Joey wasn’t having a horrible season.
- roenick97

RyJo was healthy for every game before being traded. I do not doubt he had an injury of some sort that allowed him to get out of playing for the Flyers last year. Why did he choose not to play for the Flyers? Torts? The Flyers stink? Who knows.

The Flyers clearly want the cap space or the ability to trade a healthy player.

I read it was due to an injury in Colorado, which I don’t buy. Like, did he hurt himself getting on the plane to Philly? Give me a break!
- roenick97

He's an older guy who's been in the league a long time. Odds are he has some kind of nagging injury (hip?) that he's dealing with. I'm guessing that when he found out he was going to Philly, where he'd either have to play for Torts or go to the minors, he decided he'd be better off dealing with his injury now and not play at all. Maybe there was handshake agreement between them that he would do this? Either way the Flyers seemed OK with that arrangement. Who knows what's going on now that made the Flyers file for termination of his contract?

He came over when he was 22.
- furio16

And if Kolosov comes over next season, he will be 23. And have two years of being an KHL starter. It's very easy to see him being an NHL backup then.

He's an older guy who's been in the league a long time. Odds are he has some kind of nagging injury (hip?) that he's dealing with. I'm guessing that when he found out he was going to Philly, where he'd either have to play for Torts or go to the minors, he decided he'd be better off dealing with his injury now and not play at all. Maybe there was handshake agreement between them that he would do this? Either way the Flyers seemed OK with that arrangement. Who knows what's going on now that made the Flyers file for termination of his contract?
- Dkos

Sounds about right. And we know the Flyers, healthy enough to eat lunch, healthy enough to play hockey.

The Flyers royally screwed up the Gauthier situation. At this point in time, I don't see the Flyers having done anything wrong in the Kolosov and Johansson situations.
- MJL

I agree based on the facts that we know. I also don't blame Kosolov one bit for preferring to make better money in his home country than get chump change playing for Lappy's Losers in Allentown.

I’m sorry but they traded for Johansson and because Torts and him butt heads forever ago, you’re not even gonna try to play him? This team isn’t good enough to just throw players away, especially centers. Joey wasn’t having a horrible season.
- roenick97

The Flyers are his 4th team, Colorado wanted him gone, locker room cancer.
Flyers did not want a cancer in their locker room. Sent him to AHL, all of the sudden he is injured even though he played right before the trade.


They are now are calling shenanigans. Let him provide a doctors note saying he is injured.

The flyers were not going to be better with him on the ice.

And if Kolosov comes over next season, he will be 23. And have two years of being an KHL starter. It's very easy to see him being an NHL backup then.
- Feanor

Did kolosov play on the big boy team or the minor team like MM did?

I agree based on the facts that we know. I also don't blame Kosolov one bit for preferring to make better money in his home country than get chump change playing for Lappy's Losers in Allentown.
- Feanor

Agreed.

RyJo was healthy for every game before being traded. I do not doubt he had an injury of some sort that allowed him to get out of playing for the Flyers last year. Why did he choose not to play for the Flyers? Torts? The Flyers stink? Who knows.

The Flyers clearly want the cap space or the ability to trade a healthy player.
- mickel25

I think if they get rid of RYJO, they will not have to put Ellis on IR.

I agree based on the facts that we know. I also don't blame Kosolov one bit for preferring to make better money in his home country than get chump change playing for Lappy's Losers in Allentown.
- Feanor

sure, but he signed an agreement with the Flyers

I think if they get rid of RYJO, they will not have to put Ellis on IR.
- WhiskeyMan

Yep. Hopefully he is deemed healthy and they can move him to a team that he will play for at half price. Losing his cap hit would be good too.

The Flyers are his 4th team, Colorado wanted him gone, locker room cancer.
Flyers did not want a cancer in their locker room. Sent him to AHL, all of the sudden he is injured even though he played right before the trade.


They are now are calling shenanigans. Let him provide a doctors note saying he is injured.

The flyers were not going to be better with him on the ice.
- WhiskeyMan

If he is such a cancer why acquire him and let him go to the locker room where your young players are playing? Does that make sense?

The Flyers already provided the doctors note did they not? Otherwise how would he get approved to be on the long term injured list.

Agreed.
- MJL

I do not agree with the contract Fedotov got, was most likely to pay off old team.

Kolosov hasn't earned a pricey contract in the NHL yet. So he goes back home where he doesn't have to prove himself to anyone rather than show the Flyers and other NHL teams he should get paid.

Correct me if I am wrong, but the great Shesterkin played in the AHL did he not. He did have a playing bonus which Kolosov does not but their base salary was the same. Would Shesterkin have made more money in the KHL?

Just face it, Kolosov missed his mommy and daddy and wanted to go home.

If he is such a cancer why acquire him and let him go to the locker room where your young players are playing? Does that make sense?
- furio16

There were not going to get a 1st round pick in teh trade if they did not take him.

If he is such a cancer why acquire him and let him go to the locker room where your young players are playing? Does that make sense?

The Flyers already provided the doctors note did they not? Otherwise how would he get approved to be on the long term injured list.
- furio16

because DB wanted a first round pick for Walker and couldn't figure out a way to get it without taking Johansen back

because DB wanted a first round pick for Walker and couldn't figure out a way to get it without taking Johansen back
- Dkos

Personally, I am fine with the trade. Regardless of what happens with RyJo. If they get out of his contract for this season that is great. If he is moved for another asset that is even better. Sitting thru this year and letting him walk is completely fine with me.

So should the Flyers be interested in Askarov?
- mickel25

They should be. The problem is whether or not Nashville has any interest in any Flyers not named MM.

RyJo was healthy for every game before being traded. I do not doubt he had an injury of some sort that allowed him to get out of playing for the Flyers last year. Why did he choose not to play for the Flyers? Torts? The Flyers stink? Who knows.

The Flyers clearly want the cap space or the ability to trade a healthy player.
- mickel25

Just seeing this. Weird situation but my god is it ever par for the course for the Flyers. I hope they do find a way to terminate the contract but he's going to grieve it so who knows..

There were not going to get a 1st round pick in teh trade if they did not take him.
- WhiskeyMan

Flyers are all about culture. Doubt they bring a cancer into the Flyers family just for a 1st round pick. Especially for more than 1 season.

Especially after getting rid of Hayes and TD.

They should be. The problem is whether or not Nashville has any interest in any Flyers not named MM.
- Letterkenney

I'd def be calling to see what it costs. Only question is whether or not we can guarantee him a starters role.

I'd def be calling to see what it costs. Only question is whether or not we can guarantee him a starters role.
- Hextall271

Flyers have nothing other than MM and draft picks. Maybe could have traded TK and something but can't now

OMG, what the hell has happened to this organization. Last year a recent draft pick decided he didn't want to play in Philly, then a veteran ( that has played all season ) decides he is hurt once he gets traded to the Flyers and now a recently drafted goalie changes agents to try to get out of signing with the Flyers. Not to mention the Carter Hart fiasco. Mr. Snider must be going bonkers up there seeing what Camillo and these other slugs, now running the show, have done to what was recently the pinnacle of sports ownership.