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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 20 @ 2:36 PM ET
If he is such a cancer why acquire him and let him go to the locker room where your young players are playing? Does that make sense?

The Flyers already provided the doctors note did they not? Otherwise how would he get approved to be on the long term injured list.

- furio16


Because they wanted a 1st round pick would be my guess.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 20 @ 2:37 PM ET
OMG, what the hell has happened to this organization. Last year a recent draft pick decided he didn't want to play in Philly, then a veteran ( that has played all season ) decides he is hurt once he gets traded to the Flyers and now a recently drafted goalie changes agents to try to get out of signing with the Flyers. Not to mention the Carter Hart fiasco. Mr. Snider must be going bonkers up there seeing what Camillo and these other slugs, now running the show, have done to what was recently the pinnacle of sports ownership.
- jtb3rd


Camillo is long gone, sir.

Great avatar though.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 20 @ 2:44 PM ET
I do not agree with the contract Fedotov got, was most likely to pay off old team.

Kolosov hasn't earned a pricey contract in the NHL yet. So he goes back home where he doesn't have to prove himself to anyone rather than show the Flyers and other NHL teams he should get paid.

Correct me if I am wrong, but the great Shesterkin played in the AHL did he not. He did have a playing bonus which Kolosov does not but their base salary was the same. Would Shesterkin have made more money in the KHL?

Just face it, Kolosov missed his mommy and daddy and wanted to go home.

- WhiskeyMan


Two different situations. Kolosov was only eligible for a ELC so he can't earn a pricey NHL contract at this point in time.

What's a playing bonus?

I doubt it's due to missing him mommy and daddy.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Aug 20 @ 2:46 PM ET
I agree based on the facts that we know. I also don't blame Kosolov one bit for preferring to make better money in his home country than get chump change playing for Lappy's Losers in Allentown.
- Feanor


Man, I wish I could sign a contract and then change my mind whenever I want…
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Aug 20 @ 2:49 PM ET
Man, I wish I could sign a contract and then change my mind whenever I want…
- anti-lame


He has rights within the framework of the contract. Every player does with any signed contract. Of course the language varies per the specific situation though.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Aug 20 @ 2:49 PM ET
If he is such a cancer why acquire him and let him go to the locker room where your young players are playing? Does that make sense?

The Flyers already provided the doctors note did they not? Otherwise how would he get approved to be on the long term injured list.

- furio16


There was never a situation where ryjo was going to set foot in the locker room, especially when it was disclosed to them why they wanted to move him.

I have zero doubt torts was champing at the bit to send this guy down.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Aug 20 @ 2:49 PM ET
OMG, what the hell has happened to this organization. Last year a recent draft pick decided he didn't want to play in Philly, then a veteran ( that has played all season ) decides he is hurt once he gets traded to the Flyers and now a recently drafted goalie changes agents to try to get out of signing with the Flyers. Not to mention the Carter Hart fiasco. Mr. Snider must be going bonkers up there seeing what Camillo and these other slugs, now running the show, have done to what was recently the pinnacle of sports ownership.
- jtb3rd


Controversy is not exactly new to the Flyers. Look at Lindros; how they acquired him, when they almost killed him, and Lindros eventually refusing to play for the team. Pretty sure Mr. Snider was around then. Camillo?
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Aug 20 @ 2:56 PM ET
Controversy is not exactly new to the Flyers. Look at Lindros; how they acquired him, when they almost killed him, and Lindros eventually refusing to play for the team. Pretty sure Mr. Snider was around then. Camillo?
- Dkos


I for one am happy they are challenging RyJo. Hopefully some sort of mutual agreement happens and both parties move on.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Aug 20 @ 2:57 PM ET
Because they wanted a 1st round pick would be my guess.
- MBFlyerfan

Yes of course. My point is I do not think he is a cancer because if he was there is no way they take him on. 1st rd pick or not.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Aug 20 @ 2:58 PM ET
There was never a situation where ryjo was going to set foot in the locker room, especially when it was disclosed to them why they wanted to move him.

I have zero doubt torts was champing at the bit to send this guy down.

- anti-lame

Well he was waived so he was going to be in the LHV locker room. That’s what’s being discussed.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Aug 20 @ 2:59 PM ET
Kolosov has such an I credible opportunity to actually play in the NHL this year. Who wouldn’t drool at the opportunity to be behind on Fedotov and Ersson on the depth chart. Injuries happen and this kid could get a call up and steal the #1 spot. It’s not like Patrick Roy is in his way.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Aug 20 @ 3:00 PM ET
Two different situations. Kolosov was only eligible for a ELC so he can't earn a pricey NHL contract at this point in time.

What's a playing bonus?

I doubt it's due to missing him mommy and daddy.

- MJL


Sorry meant performance bonus not playing.

So when Shisterkin signed his ELC he was eligible for a different contract or was he only eligible to sign his ELC?
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Aug 20 @ 3:03 PM ET
Kolosov has such an I credible opportunity to actually play in the NHL this year. Who wouldn’t drool at the opportunity to be behind on Fedotov and Ersson on the depth chart. Injuries happen and this kid could get a call up and steal the #1 spot. It’s not like Patrick Roy is in his way.
- mikeyo27


Ersson is clearly number 1. After that it is wide open in my opinion. Obviously Fedotov will get the backup role to start. Fedotov does not have a lock on that role though.

So I agree Kolosov has a reasonable shot of being on the Flyers this season or next.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Aug 20 @ 3:05 PM ET
I for one am happy they are challenging RyJo. Hopefully some sort of mutual agreement happens and both parties move on.
- mickel25

the thing is no one knows what they are challenging.

Unless I am mistaken, the flyers doctors had to approve him going on the LTIR list. Are they challenging their own doctors?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 20 @ 3:06 PM ET
Controversy is not exactly new to the Flyers. Look at Lindros; how they acquired him, when they almost killed him, and Lindros eventually refusing to play for the team. Pretty sure Mr. Snider was around then. Camillo?
- Dkos


Somehow I missed that RYJO and Gauthier have the same agent.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Aug 20 @ 3:07 PM ET
the thing is no one knows what they are challenging.

Unless I am mistaken, the flyers doctors had to approve him going on the LTIR list. Are they challenging their own doctors?

- hello it's me 2050


It's the Flyers so anything is possible. I am not sure of the specific process for putting a player on IR though.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Aug 20 @ 3:09 PM ET
Well he was waived so he was going to be in the LHV locker room. That’s what’s being discussed.
- furio16


Ah I missed that
perhaps they knew he was never going to report. Him being around when the writing was on the wall wouldn’t concern me much, it was never going to be long term
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 20 @ 3:10 PM ET
the thing is no one knows what they are challenging.

Unless I am mistaken, the flyers doctors had to approve him going on the LTIR list. Are they challenging their own doctors?

- hello it's me 2050



https://www.nytimes.com/a...n-flyers-waivers-release/

After the trade deadline, the Flyers placed Johansen on waivers to reassign him to AHL Lehigh Valley but were informed he had a hip injury. That caught the Flyers by surprise, as Johansen had played in every Avalanche game before the deal. In the Avalanche’s game on March 4 before the trade, Johansen saw 10:58 of ice time and finished his last shift with about one minute remaining in regulation of a 5-0 win over the Chicago Blackhawks. On the day of the trade, Johansen took part in Colorado’s morning skate.


My guess is that this has something to do with it.
26912 PP
Season Ticket Holder
Location: Lucca
Joined: 06.27.2024

Aug 20 @ 3:12 PM ET
because DB wanted a first round pick for Walker and couldn't figure out a way to get it without taking Johansen back
- Dkos
Not sure why some are confused by this. They were aware he was a problem. They just did not care cause they got a first for a guy the took on in a salary dump.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Aug 20 @ 3:12 PM ET
https://www.nytimes.com/a...n-flyers-waivers-release/



My guess is that this has something to do with it.

- MBFlyerfan


I don't think they checked, they just didn't care to check.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Aug 20 @ 3:13 PM ET
https://www.nytimes.com/a...n-flyers-waivers-release/



My guess is that this has something to do with it.

- MBFlyerfan


Accidentally flagged this but my understanding is the injury was discovered after he arrived in Philadelphia.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Aug 20 @ 3:13 PM ET
It's the Flyers so anything is possible. I am not sure of the specific process for putting a player on IR though.
- mickel25

the flyers didn't want RYJO from the start. Waived him within minutes. They had such a need at center they didn't even want to give it a go. if they are worried about 1 guy hurting the "room" then that room is a bunch gina's then. I guess they didn't think it would go this far. Just learning on the job I suppose. 

I am just looking forward to see what the flyers have on him. seems more than just an injury. then what will RYJO counter be. If they find the flyers termination isnt valid then what? Who is RYJO represented by?

What effect will that have down the line for the gold standard in attracting players. 
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 20 @ 3:14 PM ET
Accidentally flagged this but my understanding is the injury was discovered after he arrived in Philadelphia.
- BINGO!



I guess he hurt it on the plane.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Aug 20 @ 3:14 PM ET
Yes of course. My point is I do not think he is a cancer because if he was there is no way they take him on. 1st rd pick or not.
- furio16


https://x.com/adater/status/1765545808743534825
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 20 @ 3:16 PM ET
RYJO on the injured list which was approved by flyers and nhl doctors. Now a material breech at the end of august.

Cant wait to see how this shakes out and what the breech ends up being. If it is ruled the flyers were wrong in trying to terminate the contract any repercussions for them?

- hello it's me 2050


The internet is saying that he was recently shown lifting his wife up in a wedding video which the Flyers may be using as evidence that he's faking his injury to avoid being sent to LHV or being BO.
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