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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Today @ 9:47 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Dubas explains the now and hints at the future Dubas explains the now and hints at the future
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Today @ 10:28 AM ET
Seemingly the lowest universal expectations for the Pens in a while, since before Sid was drafted, but I'm still just as excited for the season to start as most other years haha. I think this team might be better than a lot are giving credit for, might end up being better than the last two year's teams. However, I do think too many other teams in the east either stayed elite'ish or improved the rosters from last year. So, missing the playoffs by a small amount of points is my most likely season outcome prediction.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Today @ 1:25 PM ET
Weekes reporting that Shesterkin turned down a 8 year x 11 mill per offer from the Rags. That's wild. Hopefully he signs for more haha.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Today @ 1:34 PM ET
Weekes reporting that Shesterkin turned down a 8 year x 11 mill per offer from the Rags. That's wild. Hopefully he signs for more haha.
- MattStrat

I can’t fathom turning down a contract like that. He’s a goalie, what does he think he’s gonna get? Does he hate New York that much? If moneys not an issue, which at 8x11 it’s not, New York is awesome.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Today @ 1:37 PM ET
I can’t fathom turning down a contract like that. He’s a goalie, what does he think he’s gonna get? Does he hate New York that much? If moneys not an issue, which at 8x11 it’s not, New York is awesome.
- Victoro311


Hahaha yeah, its crazy. He'd be the highest paid goalie of all time if he accepted that. I've read things, no idea if true or not, that he wants to be highest paid player on team. That title currently goes to Panarin at 11.6 mill per. Shesterkin is the best player on the team in my opinion. However, tying that much cap into one goalie is insane.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Today @ 2:03 PM ET
Hahaha yeah, its crazy. He'd be the highest paid goalie of all time if he accepted that. I've read things, no idea if true or not, that he wants to be highest paid player on team. That title currently goes to Panarin at 11.6 mill per. Shesterkin is the best player on the team in my opinion. However, tying that much cap into one goalie is insane.
- MattStrat

Yeah goalies are the running backs of hockey. You just don’t have the same value as a goal scoring forward for a variety of reasons. If you’re offered a contract to be the highest paid goalie of all time it’s silly to decline it because you’re comparing it to what a star forward makes.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Today @ 3:00 PM ET
Yeah goalies are the running backs of hockey. You just don’t have the same value as a goal scoring forward for a variety of reasons. If you’re offered a contract to be the highest paid goalie of all time it’s silly to decline it because you’re comparing it to what a star forward makes.
- Victoro311


I disagree because an elite goaltender can carry a team to the Stanley Cup and give them a chance, whereas an elite running back can't carry a team to the Super Bowl the same way.

Maybe you are comparing the totality of the goalie position to the totality of the running back position, but I think an elite goalie can prop a team up much more than an elite running back.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Today @ 3:57 PM ET
I disagree because an elite goaltender can carry a team to the Stanley Cup and give them a chance, whereas an elite running back can't carry a team to the Super Bowl the same way.

Maybe you are comparing the totality of the goalie position to the totality of the running back position, but I think an elite goalie can prop a team up much more than an elite running back.

- j.boyd919


Goalies can often carry you to the cup, but how often is it the truly elite, highest paid goalies doing it?

Bobrovski - Has been wildly inconsistent and considered the worst contract in the sport before the last two years.

Hill - Was a backup level goalie who went on a run. Has now established himself as a starter but not considered big money elite.

Keumper - Has had 2-3 really good seasons and a lot of mediocrity around it.

Vasilevski - Exception here, top goalie making top money for 2 years.

Binnington - was a great goalie on a cheap contract.

Caps, Pens, Hawks all won without a big ticket elite goalie. There is little correlation between spending a ton of money on goaltending and winning cups. Its really just getting the most bang for your buck across your roster.