Ryan Wilson: Actions speak louder than words Actions speak louder than words

I think the Tkachuk-Barkov duo is the best duo in the league. Very different in terms of “elite duo’s” but getting the job done is all that matters. Also I remember the Jarry deal being praised as the only option the Penguins had.

I think the Tkachuk-Barkov duo is the best duo in the league. Very different in terms of “elite duo’s” but getting the job done is all that matters. Also I remember the Jarry deal being praised as the only option the Penguins had.
- Grinder47

Your recency bias is showing....

Was wondering if anyone should do a wellness check on you with Rempe being sent to the AHL...

I don't remember anyone praising that deal but there was some agreement there weren't many options at the time...I used to be a bit more on Jarry's side. It always seemed to me he wouldnt be good after long layoffs but would really get going with some play time and games under belt after returning. As far as I can remember he's usually had a rough October after the summer layoff. Another problem with this was he was injured so much he was returning from layoffs a lot.

He doesn't really have much of a leash with me anymore, I'd be totally fine with shipping him out or burying in the AHL but i do think he has the tools to be good. Just needs to work on the brain a bit.

Incredibly disingenuous to say Jarry had “little leverage” in summer 2023. He was a UFA and Pens had no other starting goaltender option unless it was going to be via trade. Ned was coming off a horrible year with Detroit and Blomqvist had yet to play a season in the AHL. It’s a lot easier to be a GM in hindsight.

Incredibly disingenuous to say Jarry had “little leverage” in summer 2023. He was a UFA and Pens had no other starting goaltender option unless it was going to be via trade. Ned was coming off a horrible year with Detroit and Blomqvist had yet to play a season in the AHL. It’s a lot easier to be a GM in hindsight.
- abasin

Agreed.


Also, not that I think it will have much consequence, but I accidently flagged your post haha sorry.

Your recency bias is showing....

Was wondering if anyone should do a wellness check on you with Rempe being sent to the AHL...

I don't remember anyone praising that deal but there was some agreement there weren't many options at the time...I used to be a bit more on Jarry's side. It always seemed to me he wouldnt be good after long layoffs but would really get going with some play time and games under belt after returning. As far as I can remember he's usually had a rough October after the summer layoff. Another problem with this was he was injured so much he was returning from layoffs a lot.

He doesn't really have much of a leash with me anymore, I'd be totally fine with shipping him out or burying in the AHL but i do think he has the tools to be good. Just needs to work on the brain a bit.
- MattStrat

I think a conditioning stint to the AHL would show a lot about where Jarry’s at physically and mentally. Does he dominate? Does he take it seriously? Does he have a good attitude about it?

Your recency bias is showing....

Was wondering if anyone should do a wellness check on you with Rempe being sent to the AHL...

I don't remember anyone praising that deal but there was some agreement there weren't many options at the time...I used to be a bit more on Jarry's side. It always seemed to me he wouldnt be good after long layoffs but would really get going with some play time and games under belt after returning. As far as I can remember he's usually had a rough October after the summer layoff. Another problem with this was he was injured so much he was returning from layoffs a lot.

He doesn't really have much of a leash with me anymore, I'd be totally fine with shipping him out or burying in the AHL but i do think he has the tools to be good. Just needs to work on the brain a bit.
- MattStrat

I'm with you on this and have defended him over the years. Pens D does take some blame.

He has played well for the team in the past and physically I think he's a good goalie.

Mentally is another story all together.

He seems to have created an "oh Well" attitude that may help some tenders but is not helping him. His body language after goals and being pulled reeks of it's not my fault arrogance.

We all know the Pens need to be better defensively but that attitude is not going to win you any friends in room.

I think a conditioning stint to the AHL would show a lot about where Jarry’s at physically and mentally. Does he dominate? Does he take it seriously? Does he have a good attitude about it?
- Grinder47

Totally agree.

Incredibly disingenuous to say Jarry had “little leverage” in summer 2023. He was a UFA and Pens had no other starting goaltender option unless it was going to be via trade. Ned was coming off a horrible year with Detroit and Blomqvist had yet to play a season in the AHL. It’s a lot easier to be a GM in hindsight.
- abasin

This.

There was also a lot of hope that his past seasons/Post Seasons struggles were a learning experience he'd grow from.

I'm with you on this and have defended him over the years. Pens D does take some blame.

He has played well for the team in the past and physically I think he's a good goalie.

Mentally is another story all together.

He seems to have created an "oh Well" attitude that may help some tenders but is not helping him. His body language after goals and being pulled reeks of it's not my fault arrogance.

We all know the Pens need to be better defensively but that attitude is not going to win you any friends in room.
- Thorny87

Yeah, the defence has been atrocious for all 3 goalies but you see Bloom and Ned make big saves. Also, Jarry has let in a few that really should have been saved as well, not just Grade A chances, breakaways or two on ones.

Yeah, the defence has been atrocious for all 3 goalies but you see Bloom and Ned make big saves. Also, Jarry has let in a few that really should have been saved as well, not just Grade A chances, breakaways or two on ones.
- MattStrat

100%. Even when the D has made the right play he's let some weak ones by just killing momentum.

Moving him away from the team is the tough call but it makes me think even more it's his attitude that is the problem.

100%. Even when the D has made the right play he's let some weak ones by just killing momentum.

Moving him away from the team is the tough call but it makes me think even more it's his attitude that is the problem.
- Thorny87

If they are on a road trip he’s not going to see the ice for it’s the right call.

Jarry had a ton of leverage, wtf is RW talking about. Korp signed for 5 x $4M that summer. If Jarry had gone to market he would've got a similar contract to what he signed with us, that is the definition of leverage.

That said we should've just rolled with scrap heap guys and hoped it worked out rather than giving a guy nobody believed in then (or now) a 5-year deal.

Team D has been pitiful. They gave up 10+ odd-man breaks against the Rags in the very first game. They've been a little better, but not nearly enough. If he's got confidence issues, that obviously won't work. I'm assuming they're going to give him some more chances, but he's likely going to be someone's reclamation project beyond this season.

Jarry maybe had some leverage, but just because a guy has leverage doesnt mean you have to sign him to a stupid contract. I suggested they trade him and after the deadline that we just let him walk for anything over $4M. I dont think there was a single person who thought that was a good contract.

Jarry has been the same guy his whole career, a guy who can share the net but not take a full on workload. People can deny it all they want, but there is very clearly a personality issue. If they really wanted to get him back on board, they would keep him with the team and still give him starts. What good does sending him to Pittsburgh to practice do?

I said before the season that they should bury him in the minors. Now they really need to get him in the minors to at least get some action. Given where Edmonton is at, I feel like they should have started Jarry, prayed he has a good game and then leave him there and take back the corpse of Evander Kane.

Jars is cooked. That contract is gonna be tough.

Jarry had a ton of leverage, wtf is RW talking about. Korp signed for 5 x $4M that summer. If Jarry had gone to market he would've got a similar contract to what he signed with us, that is the definition of leverage.

That said we should've just rolled with scrap heap guys and hoped it worked out rather than giving a guy nobody believed in then (or now) a 5-year deal.
- MickV

Jarry did get too market. I think they both looked around and couldn't find anybody better so they settled for each other. I likened it to that couple that stays together just because they're comfortable even though they don't love each other.

But I agree with you, they didn't have great options. Jarry was the best goalie on the market, but he had red flags. Cheap route you never know what you will get. Or tried to trade for an expensive established goalie, but I don't think any left.

Unfortunately, Jarry seems to be getting worse. He was always up and down but he averaged out more good. Since second half of last year though he's been a prolonged mess. I do think we're stuck with him, so hopefully we get back the version from the first half of last year soon.

Crosby should just put a shut down show on mcdouche tonight. Don’t worry about pts. Just make his night a living hell.