I'm still waiting for that annoying bumhole Marchand to get the empty net hat trick.
- JimmyP

Book it

Two things that become increasingly evident; Mayfield being healthy again is irrelevant, because he remains numb from the shoulders up. Also, Dobson is equally bad with positiional play

Book it
- keaner17

8-10-5.

They've dug themselves a deep hole. 50% hockey means you are losing in the NHL due to the three point games. They haven't even gotten to that.

“Lou must go” chants appropriate. Hopefully happened at ubs.

8-10-5.

They've dug themselves a deep hole. 50% hockey means you are losing in the NHL due to the three point games. They haven't even gotten to that.
- JimmyP

That’s actually 8-15. Loser points given too much respect.

“Lou must go” chants appropriate. Hopefully happened at ubs.
- streaks

Something needs to change because UBS will be empty soon.

That’s actually 8-15. Loser points given too much respect.
- streaks

I haven't run the numbers this year yet, but since the start of the three point games the NHL has averaged about 1.1 points per game. So you are correct, every loser point means you are giving up .1 points. Every loss means you are giving up 1.1 points. For every win you are only gaining .9 points.

The NHL loves it because it make things look closer than they are. The truth is that every loss is more detrimental than a win is beneficial. It's a horrible system.

Something needs to change because UBS will be empty soon.
- Nfdbulldawg

https://www.hockeydb.com/....php?lid=NHL1927&sid=2025

6th worst attendance in the NHL this season

https://www.hockeydb.com/nhl-attendance/att_graph_season.php?lid=NHL1927&sid=2025

6th worst attendance in the NHL this season
- JohnScammo

It will probably tick up when Barzal returns.

It will probably tick up when Barzal returns.
- JimmyP

Very interesting Patrick saying this is the team Lou gave me.

Very interesting Patrick saying this is the team Lou gave me.
- ses111

An 'ask him' response, I guess?
How far will ownership allow this to go? Sure, injuries have been an issue but 'welcome to the NHL', everyone has them. The Isles are dealing with four consecutive years of a complete lack of composure and system structure in tight games. It happened under Trotz, Lane and now Roy. I can't imagine they'd afford Lou another coaching change, so the only other option is an intervention at the GM level.

Jeez, went to the movies at 3-3 and they give up 3 in the third. Can’t keep going on.

An 'ask him' response, I guess?
How far will ownership allow this to go? Sure, injuries have been an issue but 'welcome to the NHL', everyone has them. The Isles are dealing with four consecutive years of a complete lack of composure and system structure in tight games. It happened under Trotz, Lane and now Roy. I can't imagine they'd afford Lou another coaching change, so the only other option is an intervention at the GM level.
- keaner17

Anyone that is honest has to admit Lou has done a bad job with this roster since he took over. It would be a joke if Lou gets to make another coaching change. Let Roy take over as GM and see how he does with moving some players.

Very interesting Patrick saying this is the team Lou gave me.
- ses111

Well, he does not want this to be a reflection on him when he gets fired.

It will probably tick up when Barzal returns.
- JimmyP

In fairness to everything. Not having Barzal, Duclair, and Pelech, is definitely a huge factor. However, they were not exactly setting the league on fire when they a complete team either. Their absence just provides and excuse.

Anyone that is honest has to admit Lou has done a bad job with this roster since he took over. It would be a joke if Lou gets to make another coaching change. Let Roy take over as GM and see how he does with moving some players.
- ses111

SES, I say that Lou has brought this team as far as he can. He has made some mistakes along the way and also provided a few good additions. Lou's biggest gaff to me is being too loyal and giving out some bad contracts.

I would not have an issue with Roy being the GM and Coach to complete the season. He can then pass the reigns to his assistant Benoit Desrosiers and he can be the GM full time. There is still a 3 to 5 year window with Dobber, Horvat, Barzal, Sorokin, Romie, but you have to act now or you might as well consider a full re-build.

If that is the case tank Hagens. Kid is unreal. Sell everyone but Sorokin.

Just do a little research and see when the last Presidents Trophy winner won the cup and how many have done it recently. Typically doesn’t happen. . So making the POs is not a far fetched goal for every team coming out of training camp. President Trophy winners have won the cup 8 times. Looking at odds every team in the POs has an equal chance of winning it. Also being a business the revenue from even one round in nice.
- nyisles7

My point wasn’t about winning the presidents trophy but more about being a contender with the presidents trophy being the metaphor for a winning club. The isles roster is weak, and somehow digressed in Lou’s 6 year span. They’re simply not a winning roster, and aren’t fun to watch.

Very interesting Patrick saying this is the team Lou gave me.
- ses111

Thought the same thing. It’s been a couple of times now Roy says it without saying it. Grab the popcorn, something’s gotta give.

In fairness to everything. Not having Barzal, Duclair, and Pelech, is definitely a huge factor. However, they were not exactly setting the league on fire when they a complete team either. Their absence just provides and excuse.
- Nfdbulldawg

I think it’s fair to say the isles aren’t as good of a team without Duclair, Barzal and Pelech. It’s the third period collapses that are a team failure. The above mentioned being out hurts the PP. But the continued elephant in the room is the third period. Multiple coaches, same roster, same results.

An 'ask him' response, I guess?
How far will ownership allow this to go? Sure, injuries have been an issue but 'welcome to the NHL', everyone has them. The Isles are dealing with four consecutive years of a complete lack of composure and system structure in tight games. It happened under Trotz, Lane and now Roy. I can't imagine they'd afford Lou another coaching change, so the only other option is an intervention at the GM level.
- keaner17

The mere fact that Martin, Engvall and Wahlstrom didn’t make the team out of camp and are somehow dressing now is a red flag. I’m pretty sure Roy said those guys didn’t show enough to make the team, but now they’re the answer to injuries? The isles are exactly where the roster should be. Mediocre with a side of blown leads.

SES, I say that Lou has brought this team as far as he can. He has made some mistakes along the way and also provided a few good additions. Lou's biggest gaff to me is being too loyal and giving out some bad contracts.

I would not have an issue with Roy being the GM and Coach to complete the season. He can then pass the reigns to his assistant Benoit Desrosiers and he can be the GM full time. There is still a 3 to 5 year window with Dobber, Horvat, Barzal, Sorokin, Romie, but you have to act now or you might as well consider a full re-build.

If that is the case tank Hagens. Kid is unreal. Sell everyone but Sorokin.
- Nfdbulldawg

I wanted Lou hired and Lou did some good things, but the last few years have not been good. Lou should have been all in after the 1st ECF to try to win a Cup when you had Barry coaching. After it did not work out and Barry was fired, this was the time to re-tool.


I think it makes sense to let Roy run things to finish the season and make his assistant take over coaching next year. the team does have to act run and cannot put things off much further. Thay can let Lou re-sign Nelson and Palms and trade any picks to try to save the season.

My point wasn’t about winning the presidents trophy but more about being a contender with the presidents trophy being the metaphor for a winning club. The isles roster is weak, and somehow digressed in Lou’s 6 year span. They’re simply not a winning roster, and aren’t fun to watch.
- kindlyrick

Correct. It's more about being respected and being a legit team and a team top FA's want to sign with.

The mere fact that Martin, Engvall and Wahlstrom didn’t make the team out of camp and are somehow dressing now is a red flag. I’m pretty sure Roy said those guys didn’t show enough to make the team, but now they’re the answer to injuries? The isles are exactly where the roster should be. Mediocre with a side of blown leads.
- kindlyrick

Maybe Lane is not a good coach, but Islander coaches are put in a very tough spot. They simply do not have the horses for a legit run even when healthy.

Happy and safe Thanksgiving to everyone!

I wanted Lou hired and Lou did some good things, but the last few years have not been good. Lou should have been all in after the 1st ECF to try to win a Cup when you had Barry coaching. After it did not work out and Barry was fired, this was the time to re-tool.


I think it makes sense to let Roy run things to finish the season and make his assistant take over coaching next year. the team does have to act run and cannot put things off much further. Thay can let Lou re-sign Nelson and Palms and trade any picks to try to save the season.
- ses111

Here is an idea. Trade Nelson and Palms to fill spots in the pantry. Then, sign them back as free agents if you truly believe they are the answers. You need to be creative.

I have nothing but respect for Nelson, he has developed into the goal scorer this team needs later in his career. My issue is that the contract that he is going to be worth does not make sense for the Isles as they are not in a Cup window. Same thing with Palms.

As a GM you not only have to look at your present but your future as well. Lou is stuck in the present. Again, I have said it several times here that I would trade draft picks for proven players. I still stand by that. However, this team is past the crossroads, and you need development, youth and cap space.

If you ignore that, you might as well just have a fire sale and start figuring how you will build around Cole Eiserman.