4?
(frank) that!
Definitely do not want that contract and I dont see the Flames retaining anything for 4 years either.
- Fakepartofme

Ok I'm over my bad break up with Naz and I'd take him back in Toronto BUT only if Calgary is retaining enough to make it make sense.

I'd love to see him win a cup in Toronto and I think / hope he's matured enough that he wouldn't be a liability to get suspended come playoffs again. I don't see it happening though.

does trouba suck?

they just want to dump him?
- senstroll

Wade Redden 2.0 in a way - he's just not worth his contract.

I admit that I don't watch a lot of his game itself - I see the highlights of his headhunting hits - but the metrics indicate a second pairing guy who is well below average at defense while being mediocre at offense. Most of his value is probably supplied by his partner.

Looking at his general play, he is a consistent 48% xGF over the past four seasons regardless of who he's partnered with - but this year he's -10 with Miller (0 for) and only -1 with his predominant partner, Lindgren.

When you consider that Jones & Schneider and Miller & Fox, the other common pairings, are positive in the Actual GF% at 5v5, it's a bit damning for Trouba. Not since the 2021-22 season has he really posted positive goals for results at 5v5.

I'm not sure if the Rangers ate $4m of his salary if he's even worth that . . . just based on the fact that if he can't play second pair minutes, you don't want to pay a bottom pairing guy $4m.

Ok I'm over my bad break up with Naz and I'd take him back in Toronto BUT only if Calgary is retaining enough to make it make sense.

I'd love to see him win a cup in Toronto and I think / hope he's matured enough that he wouldn't be a liability to get suspended come playoffs again. I don't see it happening though.
- Cush29

Same here.

So Trouba or Naz?

Or both?

Ok I'm over my bad break up with Naz and I'd take him back in Toronto BUT only if Calgary is retaining enough to make it make sense.

I'd love to see him win a cup in Toronto and I think / hope he's matured enough that he wouldn't be a liability to get suspended come playoffs again. I don't see it happening though.
- Cush29

Given his age and duration of the contract they'd have to eat half - and I can't see Calgary doing that for Toronto or Treliving. I don't think we have the assets to spare to make it happen either - not for the value he brings. Like I do like Kadri and would also welcome him back, but if you're Calgary and you offer to eat 50% of his salary just to move him, you're only doing it for the asset capital you're getting in return.

We don't have a lot of picks and we don't have a deep enough prospect pool to casually spend those resources.

Wade Redden 2.0 in a way - he's just not worth his contract.

I admit that I don't watch a lot of his game itself - I see the highlights of his headhunting hits - but the metrics indicate a second pairing guy who is well below average at defense while being mediocre at offense. Most of his value is probably supplied by his partner.

Looking at his general play, he is a consistent 48% xGF over the past four seasons regardless of who he's partnered with - but this year he's -10 with Miller (0 for) and only -1 with his predominant partner, Lindgren.

When you consider that Jones & Schneider and Miller & Fox, the other common pairings, are positive in the Actual GF% at 5v5, it's a bit damning for Trouba. Not since the 2021-22 season has he really posted positive goals for results at 5v5.

I'm not sure if the Rangers ate $4m of his salary if he's even worth that . . . just based on the fact that if he can't play second pair minutes, you don't want to pay a bottom pairing guy $4m.
- Monkeypunk

interesting. I havent watched him play much at all. you just see the brain scrambling hits.

sounds like a team might grab him on waivers?
wish teams wouldnt help other teams get out of bad contracts so easy

I don't know whether it is possible or how much McDavid likes it in Edmonton.

I do think that if there is a chance, the Leafs will make it happen somehow. It isn't out of the realm of possibility.
- Aetherial

McD is an Oiler for life. Book it.

interesting. I havent watched him play much at all. you just see the brain scrambling hits.

sounds like a team might grab him on waivers?
wish teams wouldnt help other teams get out of bad contracts so easy
- senstroll

Right now Anaheim, Columbus, Utah, Calgary, Utah, Montreal, LA and the Islanders all have cap room to fit him in with no roster moves. The Flyers, Blues and Sharks could make it happen with one move.

The current waivers selection order with their cap space is Chicago (5.3), Nashville (1.4), Montreal (10.3), Anaheim (19.9), Detroit (1.5), Utah (13.3), Ottawa (4.1), San Jose (7.1) , the Islanders (8.6), Buffalo (4.4), Columbus (19.5) . . .

Realistically, he shouldn't get past Montreal and doesn't get past Anaheim. So if you're Utah, San Jose, the Islanders or Columbus - make Drury an offer.

McD is an Oiler for life. Book it.
- mjones242

I don't see him leaving.

The face he made as an 18 year old when he knew he wasn't going to Toronto isn't the way he feels anymore. No one at 28 is the same as they were when they were 18.

Same here.

So Trouba or Naz?

Or both?
- Snot Dillingham

Trouba as a Leaf would be a hot mess. The DOPS would suddenly label him as a serial head hunting maniac who is the most dangerous player ever to play hockey. Geroge Paros and his brain trust would suspend the ever living poop out of him the minute he pulled a Leaf jersey over his head!


It's funny 'cause it's true.

Give me Naz.

Given his age and duration of the contract they'd have to eat half - and I can't see Calgary doing that for Toronto or Treliving. I don't think we have the assets to spare to make it happen either - not for the value he brings. Like I do like Kadri and would also welcome him back, but if you're Calgary and you offer to eat 50% of his salary just to move him, you're only doing it for the asset capital you're getting in return.

We don't have a lot of picks and we don't have a deep enough prospect pool to casually spend those resources.
- Monkeypunk

Fully agree and it's why I just don't feel like it'll happen and if it did the Leafs would have to give up what many would say it too much. The fact Tre was the GM in Calgary hurts the Leafs in regards to trades with them IMO.

Right now Anaheim, Columbus, Utah, Calgary, Utah, Montreal, LA and the Islanders all have cap room to fit him in with no roster moves. The Flyers, Blues and Sharks could make it happen with one move.

The current waivers selection order with their cap space is Chicago (5.3), Nashville (1.4), Montreal (10.3), Anaheim (19.9), Detroit (1.5), Utah (13.3), Ottawa (4.1), San Jose (7.1) , the Islanders (8.6), Buffalo (4.4), Columbus (19.5) . . .

Realistically, he shouldn't get past Montreal and doesn't get past Anaheim. So if you're Utah, San Jose, the Islanders or Columbus - make Drury an offer.
- Monkeypunk

I'm going to go the other way - I think he passes through waivers, and then Drury starts getting calls asking how much salary he is willing to eat.

I don't see him leaving.

The face he made as an 18 year old when he knew he wasn't going to Toronto isn't the way he feels anymore. No one at 28 is the same as they were when they were 18.
- Monkeypunk

The only reason he would leave (and not necessarily for Toronto) is that he has an obvious very strong hate to lose / desire to win, you can see it when they lose / lost in the finals.

He's made his bank at this point, he strikes me as a guy who would leave some on the table to go somewhere if he thought the chance to win a cup was there AND the Oilers were nowhere near that same level of possibility.

I don't think he thinks that now at all and sees the Oilers as cup contenders but if he doesn't lock in for 7 or 8 years I could see him leaving under those circumstances.

It will be interesting to see how long a deal he signs, I think he will follow the new trend of a shorter deal to then re-assess.

stop being cheapskate.
- dmnted

I like quality for the cap.
Leafs cant afford a bad contract

Ok I'm over my bad break up with Naz and I'd take him back in Toronto BUT only if Calgary is retaining enough to make it make sense.

I'd love to see him win a cup in Toronto and I think / hope he's matured enough that he wouldn't be a liability to get suspended come playoffs again. I don't see it happening though.
- Cush29

Calgary would have to eat half and still I would be hesitant. I never hated kadri, just not interested in bringing former players.

Plus I dont see Calgary eating half.

Right now Anaheim, Columbus, Utah, Calgary, Utah, Montreal, LA and the Islanders all have cap room to fit him in with no roster moves. The Flyers, Blues and Sharks could make it happen with one move.

The current waivers selection order with their cap space is Chicago (5.3), Nashville (1.4), Montreal (10.3), Anaheim (19.9), Detroit (1.5), Utah (13.3), Ottawa (4.1), San Jose (7.1) , the Islanders (8.6), Buffalo (4.4), Columbus (19.5) . . .

Realistically, he shouldn't get past Montreal and doesn't get past Anaheim. So if you're Utah, San Jose, the Islanders or Columbus - make Drury an offer.
- Monkeypunk

I guess his m-ntc will not prevent him being waive.

Trouba as a Leaf would be a hot mess. The DOPS would suddenly label him as a serial head hunting maniac who is the most dangerous player ever to play hockey. Geroge Paros and his brain trust would suspend the ever living poop out of him the minute he pulled a Leaf jersey over his head!


It's funny 'cause it's true.

Give me Naz.
- Cush29

Think of Komisarek

Wade Redden 2.0 in a way - he's just not worth his contract.

I admit that I don't watch a lot of his game itself - I see the highlights of his headhunting hits - but the metrics indicate a second pairing guy who is well below average at defense while being mediocre at offense. Most of his value is probably supplied by his partner.

Looking at his general play, he is a consistent 48% xGF over the past four seasons regardless of who he's partnered with - but this year he's -10 with Miller (0 for) and only -1 with his predominant partner, Lindgren.

When you consider that Jones & Schneider and Miller & Fox, the other common pairings, are positive in the Actual GF% at 5v5, it's a bit damning for Trouba. Not since the 2021-22 season has he really posted positive goals for results at 5v5.

I'm not sure if the Rangers ate $4m of his salary if he's even worth that . . . just based on the fact that if he can't play second pair minutes, you don't want to pay a bottom pairing guy $4m.
- Monkeypunk

I'm sorry to say you're pretty much spot on

If Canada loses, it's a nothing tournament and means nothing.

If Canada wins, it's further proof of our hockey superiority.
- Atomic Wedgie

Montembault now tied with Helleybuck (butchered his name probably) for most shutouts this season.

While playing on a team that's bottom 5 in the league.

By the end of the tournament, he'll be Canada's starter imho.

Think of Komisarek
- dmnted

I try not too....I dislike projectile vomiting.

Seeing X chatter about Trouba to TOR. Not a chance, why would we bail out an Eastern Conference contender, assuming they turn it around...

Trouba is hot garbage and yeah, DOPS would crucify us, he'd be suspended for 67 games just to troll us.

If Canada loses, it's a nothing tournament and means nothing.

If Canada wins, it's further proof of our hockey superiority.
- Atomic Wedgie

Doesnt mean anything either way.
Just fun to see mcd on team Canada again.

Calgary would have to eat half and still I would be hesitant. I never hated kadri, just not interested in bringing former players.

Plus I dont see Calgary eating half.
- Fakepartofme

I don’t see any real reason to make a big splash for a top six centre and I don’t want to spend big on assets or cap for a guy to centre the 3rd line. Use the injury time to see if Minten can do the job. If so, focus on a winger or LHD

Trouba as a Leaf would be a hot mess. The DOPS would suddenly label him as a serial head hunting maniac who is the most dangerous player ever to play hockey. Geroge Paros and his brain trust would suspend the ever living poop out of him the minute he pulled a Leaf jersey over his head!


It's funny 'cause it's true.

Give me Naz.
- Cush29

Think of Komisarek
- dmnted

That make me think of Burke. I`m all for pugnacity, but man that team was a mess.