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PuckPix
Joined: 01.12.2021

Yesterday @ 11:35 AM ET
Puck Pix : Gibby on the Leafs
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Most Eksy's All-Time. You're Welcome Hockeybuzz, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Yesterday @ 11:39 AM ET
First!!!

edit: Good Alliteration!
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Imma Luigi, #1!, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Yesterday @ 11:55 AM ET
All signs pointing to a Leafs win tonight.

So, guaranteed loss.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Imma Luigi, #1!, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Yesterday @ 12:15 PM ET
The Leafs biological clock is ticking.
Kinger34
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We may have already seen Matthews at his potential - SMBDragon, ON
Joined: 07.04.2011

Yesterday @ 12:31 PM ET
For the love of god can this team please start on time in a game that absolutely requires it?

Step on the Panthers throats, take 2 points from them, and put them that much farther back in the rear view mirror.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Yesterday @ 1:34 PM ET
As a UFA how much does JT get offered by non leaf teams?
Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.31.2021

Yesterday @ 1:50 PM ET
As a UFA how much does JT get offered by non leaf teams?
- senstroll


8 x 4.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Yesterday @ 3:00 PM ET
Who is better Oneil Cruz or Elly De La Cruz?
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Yesterday @ 3:10 PM ET
8 x 4.
- Rare_Jewel


At age 34, Steven Stamkos had 40 goals and 81 points in 78 games which led to him getting $8m x 4 from Nashville. That's basically 42G-43A in 82GP.

At age 34, John Tavares is pacing out to 43G, 42A over 82GP.

It's awfully close.

About the only argument against the contract you propose is that with the rise in cap it could be $8.7m to be equivalent.

I still say that if you're paying him on merit and age, then a 4 year contract would look something like: $8m, $6m, $5m, $4m for an AAV of $5.75 - and the truth is that every year of that deal is probably higher than he really should be paid but @ $5.75m it's not really hurting you that much if the cap does rise as anticipated.
ThatDarnCat
Location: In the control group
Joined: 04.01.2010

Yesterday @ 3:12 PM ET
Who is better Oneil Cruz or Elly De La Cruz?
- senstroll


Penelope Cruz
Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.31.2021

Yesterday @ 3:40 PM ET
At age 34, Steven Stamkos had 40 goals and 81 points in 78 games which led to him getting $8m x 4 from Nashville. That's basically 42G-43A in 82GP.

At age 34, John Tavares is pacing out to 43G, 42A over 82GP.

It's awfully close.

About the only argument against the contract you propose is that with the rise in cap it could be $8.7m to be equivalent.

I still say that if you're paying him on merit and age, then a 4 year contract would look something like: $8m, $6m, $5m, $4m for an AAV of $5.75 - and the truth is that every year of that deal is probably higher than he really should be paid but @ $5.75m it's not really hurting you that much if the cap does rise as anticipated.

- Monkeypunk


You're right, he probably asks for 9.5 or 10 everywhere else and asks for 8 from the Leafs and pretends it's a discount.

What is the maximum amount his contract can decline each season? Whatever the maximum cap circumvention is allowed, give him an 6 year contract if you have to and get that cap hit down to 5 AAV. He's not worth more than 6 AAV long term.

If you can have him "retire" early, that would help too. Promise him some BS front office job like Spezza had to give him his final two years in back pay.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Yesterday @ 3:49 PM ET
At age 34, Steven Stamkos had 40 goals and 81 points in 78 games which led to him getting $8m x 4 from Nashville. That's basically 42G-43A in 82GP.

At age 34, John Tavares is pacing out to 43G, 42A over 82GP.

It's awfully close.

About the only argument against the contract you propose is that with the rise in cap it could be $8.7m to be equivalent.

I still say that if you're paying him on merit and age, then a 4 year contract would look something like: $8m, $6m, $5m, $4m for an AAV of $5.75 - and the truth is that every year of that deal is probably higher than he really should be paid but @ $5.75m it's not really hurting you that much if the cap does rise as anticipated.

- Monkeypunk


Just because Stamkos got that doesn’t mean he’s living up to it. I’ll bet Nashville regrets that deal. He’s been worth half that this year.
Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.31.2021

Yesterday @ 3:51 PM ET
Just because Stamkos got that doesn’t mean he’s living up to it. I’ll bet Nashville regrets that deal. He’s been worth half that this year.
- TurdFergeson


Exactly why the Leafs would be stupid to give Tavares anything over 6 AAV.

But it doesn't mean a team out there, desperate to add a veteran top-six C won't throw the same or more than Nashville did.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Yesterday @ 3:52 PM ET
At age 34, Steven Stamkos had 40 goals and 81 points in 78 games which led to him getting $8m x 4 from Nashville. That's basically 42G-43A in 82GP.

At age 34, John Tavares is pacing out to 43G, 42A over 82GP.

It's awfully close.

About the only argument against the contract you propose is that with the rise in cap it could be $8.7m to be equivalent.

I still say that if you're paying him on merit and age, then a 4 year contract would look something like: $8m, $6m, $5m, $4m for an AAV of $5.75 - and the truth is that every year of that deal is probably higher than he really should be paid but @ $5.75m it's not really hurting you that much if the cap does rise as anticipated.

- Monkeypunk


my guess would be getting a lower aav by going an extra year or maybe 2 ..up to 6.
puts him at 40yo
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Yesterday @ 3:59 PM ET
Just because Stamkos got that doesn’t mean he’s living up to it. I’ll bet Nashville regrets that deal. He’s been worth half that this year.
- TurdFergeson

Thats nether here n'or there.
Most of Nashville is not living up to their contracts
Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Location: My Lovers call me Small23
Joined: 04.11.2018

Yesterday @ 4:01 PM ET
I’ve seen the future - JT will get $5.5M per for 3 years. He will then sign 1 year deals with Buds until he moves into front office.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Yesterday @ 4:02 PM ET
Exactly why the Leafs would be stupid to give Tavares anything over 6 AAV.

But it doesn't mean a team out there, desperate to add a veteran top-six C won't throw the same or more than Nashville did.

- Rare_Jewel


I’m sure a team will. Because the league is run by morons.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Yesterday @ 4:06 PM ET
I’ve seen the future - JT will get $5.5M per for 3 years. He will then sign 1 year deals with Buds until he moves into front office.
- Big23Questions


Yes move more players into front office. That’s the path to victory!
Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Location: My Lovers call me Small23
Joined: 04.11.2018

Yesterday @ 4:09 PM ET
Yes move more players into front office. That’s the path to victory!
- TurdFergeson



Yes. People who have played the game. Not fatty geeks with stats.

Could be wrong - but I’d guess that the last - let’s say 10 Cup winners - have an ex player (Pro not Jr…actual player) in the front office.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Yesterday @ 4:40 PM ET
Yes. People who have played the game. Not fatty geeks with stats.

Could be wrong - but I’d guess that the last - let’s say 10 Cup winners - have an ex player (Pro not Jr…actual player) in the front office.

- Big23Questions


Most players do not make good coaches or executives. Look at all the idiotic contracts handed out. The league is successful in spite of itself.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Yesterday @ 5:02 PM ET
I’ve seen the future - JT will get $5.5M per for 3 years. He will then sign 1 year deals with Buds until he moves into front office.
- Big23Questions


That would be a deal. If this boy ends up 75P+ and has a good playoffs he’ll be $6.5-7 for 3 years is my guess.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Yesterday @ 5:18 PM ET
I’ve seen the future - JT will get $5.5M per for 3 years. He will then sign 1 year deals with Buds until he moves into front office.
- Big23Questions

But do the leafs win da hockey cup?
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Yesterday @ 5:19 PM ET
That would be a deal. If this boy ends up 75P+ and has a good playoffs he’ll be $6.5-7 for 3 years is my guess.
- Dozzer

Im thinking closer to 8 with those stats.

dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rented to Animal Gelato ;)
Joined: 08.30.2006

Yesterday @ 5:39 PM ET
At age 34, Steven Stamkos had 40 goals and 81 points in 78 games which led to him getting $8m x 4 from Nashville. That's basically 42G-43A in 82GP.

At age 34, John Tavares is pacing out to 43G, 42A over 82GP.

It's awfully close.

About the only argument against the contract you propose is that with the rise in cap it could be $8.7m to be equivalent.

I still say that if you're paying him on merit and age, then a 4 year contract would look something like: $8m, $6m, $5m, $4m for an AAV of $5.75 - and the truth is that every year of that deal is probably higher than he really should be paid but @ $5.75m it's not really hurting you that much if the cap does rise as anticipated.

- Monkeypunk


different payment !!!!!
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Yesterday @ 5:41 PM ET
Nice sweep by the jays.
Had to sweep this team and they did.

Gimenez is a beaut
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