No, it's better. Mainly because we'll get to hear how the Sens tricked us into getting the better prospect/player again.
- Feeling Glucky?

Jared cowrn.

I wonder if the leafs would be better off had they not traded for Phil Kessel
Tyler Seguin, Dougie Hamilton and Jared Knight or Kessel?

For a team that's going to rebuild again...3 prospects is better imo



I wonder if the leafs would be better off had they not traded for Andrew Raycroft
Andrew Raycroft or Tukka Rask?

For a team that's always looking for a true starting goaltender Rask is better imo
- Doppleganger

I don't wonder whether the sens would be better off with a top young player like tarasenko instead of crappu Kyle turris. I know they would. They'd also be better off with Ben bishop. And silfverberg, noesen, and whatever, instead of an albatross 7m second liner contract.

Ryan takes about the same portion of team budget as the far superior kessel takes of the leafs.

After 17 games it would appear that the Senator's rebuild is proceeding rather well.
- spatso

I don't wonder whether the sens would be better off with a top young player like tarasenko instead of crappu Kyle turris. I know they would. They'd also be better off with Ben bishop. And silfverberg, noesen, and whatever, instead of an albatross 7m second liner contract.

Ryan takes about the same portion of team budget as the far superior kessel takes of the leafs.
- prock

It was tarasenko for rundblad not turris so why mention him. That was an even worse deal. At least they did some damage control by flipping rundblad for turris who is decent. Currently Anderson is better than bishop but that was still a bad deal

- senstroll

Back when he was a "Leafs fan"


I think he managed to fool 1 sens fan one time into actually thinking he was a TO fan.

- senstroll

After four years, three year rebuild not going well.

After four years, three year rebuild not going well.
- prock

no kidding.. Spatso has swung so far the other direction he now blind to anything the sens are doing. Its all great in sensland for him..despite spinning wheels and not doing anything more than the sad sad leafs

Looks like the Senators might have a goal-tending dilemma on their hands, but will learn more today on the state of Lehner's injury, and if it will keep him out of the line for a while.

They have the dreaded west coast road trip coming up, where points are hard to come by, and if the goal-tending is left up to Hammond, a significant drop in the standing may just increase their draft lottery odds.

Looks like the Senators might have a goal-tending dilemma on their hands, but will learn more today on the state of Lehner's injury, and if it will keep him out of the line for a while.

They have the dreaded west coast road trip coming up, where points are hard to come by, and if the goal-tending is left up to Hammond, a significant drop in the standing may just increase their draft lottery odds.
- Doppleganger

Sounds great to me.

Sounds great to me.
- spatso

I would never want the players on the Senators to give up, throw in the towel or go through the motions for the rest of the season, as some teams seem to be doing.

But the Senator's playoff chances were set in stone back before Christmas, so I don't have a problem if they drop in the standings, as a result of key players being out of the line up due to injury, it would almost be expected.

If Lehner is unable to play, as a result of last night's collision, then it's Hammond and the goaltender from the ECHL as the back up until one of the regulars is able to play.

I would never want the players on the Senators to give up, throw in the towel or go through the motions for the rest of the season, as some teams seem to be doing.

But the Senator's playoff chances were set in stone back before Christmas, so I don't have a problem if they drop in the standings, as a result of key players being out of the line up due to injury, it would almost be expected.

If Lehner is unable to play, as a result of last night's collision, then it's Hammond and the goaltender from the ECHL as the back up until one of the regulars is able to play.
- Doppleganger

this is when some no-name Goalie comes out of no-where to lead the sens to a few wins in a row..to solidify that 8-10 pick

this is when some no-name Goalie comes out of no-where to lead the sens to a few wins in a row..to solidify that 8-10 pick
- senstroll

i'm fine picking in the 8-10 range....

once you get past McEichel.....the difference between the rest of the top 10 guys is negligible. every mock draft seems to have different guys all over the top 10......hannifn, crouse, strome, werenski, provolov, marner, etc, etc, etc.

obviously it would be nice to have your choice of them, but as long as you're picking in the top 10, you're much assuring yourself of getting top line/top pair talent/potential.

this is when some no-name Goalie comes out of no-where to lead the sens to a few wins in a row..to solidify that 8-10 pick
- senstroll

Hammond is not "that guy" from what I've seen of him so far.

i'm fine picking in the 8-10 range....

once you get past McEichel.....the difference between the rest of the top 10 guys is negligible. every mock draft seems to have different guys all over the top 10......hannifn, crouse, strome, werenski, provolov, marner, etc, etc, etc.

obviously it would be nice to have your choice of them, but as long as you're picking in the top 10, you're much assuring yourself of getting top line/top pair talent/potential.
- sensarmy_11

There are some really great young prospects after McDavid and Eichel. In any other year 3 through 10 would be in the hunt as the top pick.

Three players; Marner, Crouse or Provorov could be looked at as possible #1 picks if the two guys at the top were not already there. In addition there are some solid D men that will quickly be playing as a top pairing guy on whatever team drafts them. Strome plays directly in MCDavid's shadow every night. How good is he?

The funny part about this entire situation is that I think the Sens and Leafs will likely be targeting the same kid.....Marner.

There are some really great young prospects after McDavid and Eichel. In any other year 3 through 10 would be in the hunt as the top pick.

Three players; Marner, Crouse or Provorov could be looked at as possible #1 picks if the two guys at the top were not already there. In addition there are some solid D men that will quickly be playing as a top pairing guy on whatever team drafts them. Strome plays directly in MCDavid's shadow every night. How good is he?

The funny part about this entire situation is that I think the Sens and Leafs will likely be targeting the same kid.....Marner.
- spatso

He is the guy i want

He is the guy i want

- top shelf 15

Really hard to figure out how good Strome can be. Playing behind MCDavid really obscures your ability to evaluate his talent. Teams put so much focus on trying to stop McDavid you think maybe Strome plays against weaker players. But he has certainly stepped up and played well when McDavid was injured and at the world juniors.

i'm fine picking in the 8-10 range....

once you get past McEichel.....the difference between the rest of the top 10 guys is negligible. every mock draft seems to have different guys all over the top 10......hannifn, crouse, strome, werenski, provolov, marner, etc, etc, etc.

obviously it would be nice to have your choice of them, but as long as you're picking in the top 10, you're much assuring yourself of getting top line/top pair talent/potential.
- sensarmy_11

Strome, Marner and Hanafin are all pretty consistently in the top 5/6... With Hanafin being considered a #1 pick in drafts not featuring two generational talent.

Picking in the 8-10 range definitely means missing out on the second tier of the draft.

Strome, Marner and Hanafin are all pretty consistently in the top 5/6... With Hanafin being considered a #1 pick in drafts not featuring two generational talent.

Picking in the 8-10 range definitely means missing out on the second tier of the draft.
- Feeling Glucky?

I think Marner, Strome and Provorove have move up ahead of Hanefin, Werenski and Kylington. But the one I wonder about most is Crouse. He is one of the youngest players in the draft. He is huge and he plays mean. The young guys often move up in the last few weeks before the draft and I expect Crouse to get into the top 5.

I think Marner, Strome and Provorove have move up ahead of Hanefin, Werenski and Kylington. But the one I wonder about most is Crouse. He is one of the youngest players in the draft. He is huge and he plays mean. The young guys often move up in the last few weeks before the draft and I expect Crouse to get into the top 5.
- spatso

But you also think Ryan is at Kane and Bergeron's level.

I think Marner, Strome and Provorove have move up ahead of Hanefin, Werenski and Kylington. But the one I wonder about most is Crouse. He is one of the youngest players in the draft. He is huge and he plays mean. The young guys often move up in the last few weeks before the draft and I expect Crouse to get into the top 5.
- spatso

some thoughts on Hanefin, take it fwiw
Pronman is also the one who had Nylander as the #1 prospect not in the NHL

Hope_Smoke @Hope_Smoke
Pronman "Hanifin is an exceptional prospect. What's he's done the past few years is something you very rarely see."

Hope_Smoke @Hope_Smoke
Pronman "Seeing what he's doing as a U18 player in the NCAA playing big mins in all situations. Hanifin is..."

Hope_Smoke @Hope_Smoke
Pronman "...one of the very best D prospects we've seen in the past few years. Very mobile"

Some leaf fans would be disappointed if he was picked 3/4, but I dont care, just want the best player

But you also think Ryan is at Kane and Bergeron's level.
- Feeling Glucky?

That is just a dumb misrepresentation on your part.

some thoughts on Hanefin, take it fwiw
Pronman is also the one who had Nylander as the #1 prospect not in the NHL



Some leaf fans would be disappointed if he was picked 3/4, but I dont care, just want the best player
- senstroll

I think all the other DMan have sunk in relation to Provolov climbing in the rankings. Also, the McDavid injury and WJC gave a chance to Marner and Strome to get some face time. They performed very well.

Other than for McDavid nobody knows who is the next best player. I like to look closely at the late birthdays. Those are usually the kids who are the climbers in the last few weeks before the draft. If that happens this year watch out for Crouse and Werenski.

A player who might be outside the top 10 but a great pick is Travis Kopecny of the Ottawa 67's. He had a slow start (banged up) but is leading the 67's to a very strong second half.

this is when some no-name Goalie comes out of no-where to lead the sens to a few wins in a row..to solidify that 8-10 pick
- senstroll

Bump

Other than for McDavid nobody knows who is the next best player.


- spatso

Eichel and everyone knows it.

Eichel and everyone knows it.
- Shutdown

Whoever the sens draft will be the greatest prospect ever. Spatso will tell us for the next 3 years