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Location: *Not Getting The Bit* Regina, SK Joined: 10.03.2007
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East Rank | Team | Points | GP | Point Percentage | Projected Points |
1 | New York Rangers | 23 | 17 | 0.676 | 111 |
2 | Boston Bruins | 22 | 18 | 0.611 | 100 |
3 | Florida Panthers | 23 | 19 | 0.605 | 99 |
4 | Philadelphia Flyers | 25 | 19 | 0.658 | 108 |
5 | Pittsburgh Penguins | 25 | 20 | 0.625 | 103 |
6 | Buffalo Sabers | 24 | 20 | 0.600 | 98 |
7 | Washington Capitals | 21 | 18 | 0.583 | 96 |
8 | New Jersey Devils | 21 | 18 | 0.583 | 96 |
9 | Toronto Maple Leafs | 24 | 21 | 0.571 | 94 |
10 | Tampa Bay Lightning | 20 | 19 | 0.526 | 86 |
11 | Montreal Canadiens | 21 | 20 | 0.525 | 86 |
12 | Ottawa Senators | 22 | 21 | 0.524 | 86 |
13 | Winnipeg Jets | 19 | 20 | 0.475 | 78 |
14 | Carolina Hurricanes | 17 | 21 | 0.405 | 66 |
15 | New York Islanders | 13 | 17 | 0.382 | 63 |
West Rank | Team | Points | GP | Point Percentage | Projected Points |
1 | San Jose Sharks | 25 | 18 | 0.694 | 114 |
2 | Minnesota Wild | 27 | 20 | 0.675 | 111 |
3 | Chicago Blackhawks | 27 | 21 | 0.643 | 105 |
4 | Phoenix Coyotes | 23 | 18 | 0.639 | 105 |
5 | Nashville Predators | 24 | 19 | 0.632 | 104 |
6 | Detroit Red Wings | 23 | 19 | 0.605 | 99 |
7 | St. Louis Blues | 22 | 19 | 0.579 | 95 |
8 | Dallas Stars | 22 | 19 | 0.579 | 95 |
9 | Edmonton Oilers | 22 | 19 | 0.579 | 95 |
10 | Los Angeles Kings | 23 | 20 | 0.575 | 94 |
11 | Vancouver Canucks | 21 | 20 | 0.525 | 86 |
12 | Colorado Avalanche | 19 | 21 | 0.452 | 74 |
13 | Calgary Flames | 17 | 18 | 0.472 | 77 |
14 | Anaheim Ducks | 16 | 20 | 0.400 | 66 |
15 | Columbus Blue Jackets | 10 | 19 | 0.263 | 43 |
Updated every Monday morning |
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senstroll
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Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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leafs are toast if it takes 96 points to make the playoffs |
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prock
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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leafs are toast if it takes 96 points to make the playoffs - senstroll
I doubt that's the case though. It would be a record. |
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I doubt that's the case though. It would be a record. - prock
chicago had 97 last year and finished 8th. unless you just mean the eastern conference. with 3 point games its very conceivable that 96 points is the threshhold for the playoffs. |
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senstroll
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Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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I doubt that's the case though. It would be a record. - prock
i want to ga back to norris smyth etc.. when you could have 46 points and make the playoffs
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prock
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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chicago had 97 last year and finished 8th. unless you just mean the eastern conference. with 3 point games its very conceivable that 96 points is the threshhold for the playoffs. - sens rock
That's a fair point. That said, most years it's quite a bit lower. Maybe 90 to 93 points. A couple have been lower, a couple have been higher. The other point is, you'll probably never see a season where both conferences require point totals in the 95+ range to make the playoffs. Any time you see one, the other is likely significantly lower, due to one conference generally winning many games over the other. |
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That's a fair point. That said, most years it's quite a bit lower. Maybe 90 to 93 points. A couple have been lower, a couple have been higher. The other point is, you'll probably never see a season where both conferences require point totals in the 95+ range to make the playoffs. Any time you see one, the other is likely significantly lower, due to one conference generally winning many games over the other. - prock
currently the east has a record of 38-24-14 against the west, so its looking like the east could be the higher point conference at this point based on that arguement. |
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senstroll
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Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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currently the east has a record of 38-24-14 against the west, so its looking like the east could be the higher point conference at this point based on that arguement. - sens rock
Nail in the coffin leafs fans
and not Yakupov |
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prock
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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currently the east has a record of 38-24-14 against the west, so its looking like the east could be the higher point conference at this point based on that arguement. - sens rock
Maybe. I still doubt it takes 96. I also very much doubt it takes that much on both sides, as the charts seem to indicate. |
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Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Reality Joined: 08.25.2006
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leafs are toast if it takes 96 points to make the playoffs - senstroll
their current chances of making the playoffs are 37.7%.
Perhaps there is a need for a veteran Goaltender? |
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senstroll
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Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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their current chances of making the playoffs are 37.7%.
Perhaps there is a need for a veteran Goaltender? - Doppleganger
or our starter not being injured anymore |
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Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Reality Joined: 08.25.2006
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or our starter not being injured anymore - senstroll
Your "Starter" was a rookie last season (35 games) and, as you say is injured. From what I've been hearing there is no projected time of return to the line up.
I've also been hearing that the "Monster" may be traded for a veteran goaltender, to shore up the goaltending situation for the season.
Although I did not see the game, but from what I've read, he played well against the Capitals, and perhaps his value is at it's highest, and given the fact the fact that the leafs have been sliding in the standings since Reimer has been out of the line up, maybe someone (veteran) should be brought in to stop the slide.
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prock
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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Your "Starter" was a rookie last season (35 games) and, as you say is injured. From what I've been hearing there is no projected time of return to the line up.
- Doppleganger
A week to 10 days, unless there is some sort of setback. |
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Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Reality Joined: 08.25.2006
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A week to 10 days, unless there is some sort of setback. - prock
Thanks, did not know that.
Still seems like a bit of a gamble, to hang the team's playoff hopes on one player, who could get injured again once he returns to the line up.
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senstroll
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Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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Your "Starter" was a rookie last season (35 games) and, as you say is injured. From what I've been hearing there is no projected time of return to the line up.
I've also been hearing that the "Monster" may be traded for a veteran goaltender, to shore up the goaltending situation for the season.
Although I did not see the game, but from what I've read, he played well against the Capitals, and perhaps his value is at it's highest, and given the fact the fact that the leafs have been sliding in the standings since Reimer has been out of the line up, maybe someone (veteran) should be brought in to stop the slide. - Doppleganger
I would be fine if Gus never played for the leafs again... and hope they get a Vet to come in and help... I just dont see BB making any quick moves, he will wait for Reimer to come back and see how that goes. If its any longer than they say (10 days) we will be out of the playoff picture soon. We have 5 points out of a possible 16.. we are hemorrhaging points bad. |
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prock
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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Thanks, did not know that.
Still seems like a bit of a gamble, to hang the team's playoff hopes on one player, who could get injured again once he returns to the line up. - Doppleganger
I don't think they are "pinning their hopes on one player". They've got a borderline playoff team with just passable goaltending. The problem is they're not getting that, as they haven't for many years, until he came along. As a goaltender, and one that has give the Leafs pretty solid tending, there is no doubt he (or some other goalie), is a key part to the team. When you've got the first and third leading scorers in the entire league, one of the top scoring Dmen in the league, it's not like he's doing it all alone. |
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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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Your "Starter" was a rookie last season (35 games) and, as you say is injured. From what I've been hearing there is no projected time of return to the line up.
I've also been hearing that the "Monster" may be traded for a veteran goaltender, to shore up the goaltending situation for the season.
Although I did not see the game, but from what I've read, he played well against the Capitals, and perhaps his value is at it's highest, and given the fact the fact that the leafs have been sliding in the standings since Reimer has been out of the line up, maybe someone (veteran) should be brought in to stop the slide. - Doppleganger
.920 save % thus far in his career. |
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spatso
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: jensen beach, FL Joined: 02.19.2007
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Maybe there is some hope for Columbus to get back in the race. It will be sad after Christmas if it is only a one team race for Yakupov. |
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Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Reality Joined: 08.25.2006
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.920 save % thus far in his career. - RogerRoeper
That may be so, but he's still just 43 games into his NHL career.
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Morris
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS Joined: 07.18.2007
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It should be noted you gain/lose about 3-5 projected points for every win/loss, so this is a poor predictor of how many point it'll take to make the playoffs. Next monday it could be 90. |
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senstroll
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Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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It should be noted you gain/lose about 3-5 projected points for every win/loss, so this is a poor predictor of how many point it'll take to make the playoffs. Next monday it could be 90. - Morris
can you elaborate on this? not sure I follow you
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Morris
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS Joined: 07.18.2007
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can you elaborate on this? not sure I follow you - senstroll
for example: right now the oilers have 22 points in 20 games, or 22 out of a possible 40 points. They're projected to have 90 points. If they win next game they'll have 24 points in 21 games and be projected to have 94 points. If they lose, they'll be projected to have 86 points. Kind of a drastic swing, isn't it? If hypothetically, all or most of the fringe playoff teams lost to either conference leaders or cellar dwellers this week, they'd all swing down in projected points and we'd be talking about how 86 points seems low for an 8th seed. |
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senstroll
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Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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for example: right now the oilers have 22 points in 20 games, or 22 out of a possible 40 points. They're projected to have 90 points. If they win next game they'll have 24 points in 21 games and be projected to have 94 points. If they lose, they'll be projected to have 86 points. Kind of a drastic swing, isn't it? If hypothetically, all or most of the fringe playoff teams lost to either conference leaders or cellar dwellers this week, they'd all swing down in projected points and we'd be talking about how 86 points seems low for an 8th seed. - Morris
Not sure I agree with that completely, If Edm is losing someone is winning, sure if you want to take a small sample like that.... The average points to make the playoffs since the lockout us 93, and this year it looks like so far the East is a bit stronger.
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Morris
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS Joined: 07.18.2007
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Not sure I agree with that completely, If Edm is losing someone is winning, sure if you want to take a small sample like that.... The average points to make the playoffs since the lockout us 93, and this year it looks like so far the East is a bit stronger. - senstroll
All I'm saying is the 93 since the lockout average is probably a better indicator than the 96 projected points at this point. Especially because each game still means so much to projected points.
Mathematically, as the number of games played approaches 82, the number of points you're projected to earn per win approaches two. Obviously, when you're 1-0, with this model you're projected to earn 164 points in a season. I'll trust this projections of what it will take to make the playoffs when we get about 40 games in, and each game won/lost is closer to two in projected points. |
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Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Reality Joined: 08.25.2006
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All I'm saying is the 93 since the lockout average is probably a better indicator than the 96 projected points at this point. Especially because each game still means so much to projected points.
Mathematically, as the number of games played approaches 82, the number of points you're projected to earn per win approaches two. Obviously, when you're 1-0, with this model you're projected to earn 164 points in a season. I'll trust this projections of what it will take to make the playoffs when we get about 40 games in, and each game won/lost is closer to two in projected points. - Morris
There is lot more than just projected points that go into figuring out the playoff chances of any given team.
For example, last season at the end of November, 7 of the 8 teams in the Eastern Conference that held playoff spots at that time, held on to them and made the playoffs.
Sites like SportClubStats do a pretty good job of projecting playoff chances using the season schedule and scores for past games, simulation of the season, home ice advantage and many other factors.
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