JJ. If Columbus had asked the Hawks for Leddy and a #1 or for Hjalmarrson and a #1 for Carter would you have made that deal. Have no idea what they wanted from the Hawks but Johnson and a #1 doesn't seem like much.
- RetiredGoalie

Was a huge fan of Hjalmarrson, however I feel he is not living up to his potential. Yes he blocks shots, but he can not move anybody out of the crease. Feeling his value is decreasing as the years go bye. Should of let the Sharks take him over Niemi.

I don't know what JJ's take is on this but in my opinion the hawks do not have the depth to give up a D man right now......without knowing if they will get someone you just can't give up a Leddy or Hjam if you have no other Dman coming in.
- UnnamedSource

Agreed, and I actually brought this up in more detail earlier, that I would have made either of those deals, but only if the Hawks were able to get a d-man in another deal with another team to replace either Hjalmarrson or Leddy. Just for argument sake, what if they traded Leddy and the #1 to Columubs for Carter and then were able to get Allen from Carolina for, let's just say, Bickell and a pick or Frolik a prospect and a pick. Just curious if anyone who didn't want to part with Hammer or Leddy in a deal would have second thoughts under this scenario.

Was that 1.6 gpf or a 1.28 gpf ?
- Beaver-Warrior

1.28 gpf...I'm all for water conservation.

Yep. But I think there are valid questions if he is too cautious/"thrifty" to do much then. Or if he has the proper judgement. After Campbell was dealt, he did nothing with $5+ million in cap room. Hawks are paying for it now.
- John Jaeckel

Yes as I've stated before my issue was never that he got rid of Campbell because I always felt 7.2 was way to much (fellow hawk fans I am not saying Campbell wasn't good, just not for that amount).........but my issue was what he brought in with that money and......we were told in the offseason that the Hawks would be in a better position than most teams to make a midseason transaction......well........crickets............

stan bowman i wanted to let you know you get no credit for effort in trying to make a trade
results are what matters and right now you are failing

if stan was a commodities trader he would be actively bidding just below the actual trading price and selling just above the selling price and in the end he would go home without ever actually making any money

stan the hawks need more commodities and you have plenty to trade so get a sack and jump into the market

JJ. If Columbus had asked the Hawks for Leddy and a #1 or for Hjalmarrson and a #1 for Carter would you have made that deal. Have no idea what they wanted from the Hawks but Johnson and a #1 doesn't seem like much.
- RetiredGoalie

No chance in hell. I would not have given much more than an old skate sharpener and a couple of rolls of tape for Carter. Carter was/is not what this team needs.

Was a huge fan of Hjalmarrson, however I feel he is not living up to his potential. Yes he blocks shots, but he can not move anybody out of the crease. Feeling his value is decreasing as the years go bye. Should of let the Sharks take him over Niemi.
- roenick

Hjamarrson is watching is replacement in fellow teammate Olsen......with a 3.5 cap hit don't be surprised if he gets moves after next season when 34 is ready to go......

No chance in hell. I would not have given much more than an old skate sharpener and a couple of rolls of tape for Carter. Carter was/is not what this team needs.
- Ogilthorpe2

....and a jock.

stan bowman i wanted to let you know you get no credit for effort in trying to make a trade
results are what matters and right now you are failing

if stan was a commodities trader he would be actively bidding just below the actual trading price and selling just above the selling price and in the end he would go home without ever actually making any money

stan the hawks need more commodities and you have plenty to trade so get a sack and jump into the market
- molly2522

.......where would this board be without molly......I just learned more about commodities trading in this paragraph than I have in the past 37 years.........I will sleep well.

Hjamarrson is watching is replacement in fellow teammate Olsen......with a 3.5 cap hit don't be surprised if he gets moves after next season when 34 is ready to go......
- UnnamedSource

So he can have the physical part of his game coached out of him as well.

Yeah a guy who has scored 20+ goals except one season isn't needed.

Yet people drool over Dave Bolland.

Yes as I've stated before my issue was never that he got rid of Campbell because I always felt 7.2 was way to much (fellow hawk fans I am not saying Campbell wasn't good, just not for that amount).........but my issue was what he brought in with that money and......we were told in the offseason that the Hawks would be in a better position than most teams to make a midseason transaction......well........crickets............
- UnnamedSource

Yeppers, He hooked a lot of us with that BS comment last July.

stan bowman i wanted to let you know you get no credit for effort in trying to make a trade
results are what matters and right now you are failing

if stan was a commodities trader he would be actively bidding just below the actual trading price and selling just above the selling price and in the end he would go home without ever actually making any money

stan the hawks need more commodities and you have plenty to trade so get a sack and jump into the market
- molly2522

If Stan was a commodities trader...the Hawks would likely be in more capable hands and we'd probably all be In a better mood.

Random thought......trying to juggle Eberle, Kessel, and Vrbata at my RW position on one of my fantasy hockey teams when they play on the same night is becoming a headache.....

If Stan was a commodities trader...the Hawks would likely be in more capable hands and we'd probably all be In a better mood.
- Ogilthorpe2

LMFAO!!!!

Hjamarrson is watching is replacement in fellow teammate Olsen......with a 3.5 cap hit don't be surprised if he gets moves after next season when 34 is ready to go......
- UnnamedSource

Bingo! or after this season

1.28 gpf...I'm all for water conservation.
- ArlingtonRob

Sweet, now if you're using grey water perfect!

If Stan was a commodities trader...the Hawks would likely be in more capable hands and we'd probably all be In a better mood.
- Ogilthorpe2

Xanadu....

Yes as I've stated before my issue was never that he got rid of Campbell because I always felt 7.2 was way to much (fellow hawk fans I am not saying Campbell wasn't good, just not for that amount).........but my issue was what he brought in with that money and......we were told in the offseason that the Hawks would be in a better position than most teams to make a midseason transaction......well........crickets............
- UnnamedSource

Yep...still waiting.
If the cap room isn't utilized, what was the point in trading Campbell? So Olesz could help the Icehogs STILL finish last in the A?

That's one reason I've suggested the Hawks should just be sellers at this point, stockpile more picks, shed more salary and make a big play in free agency after the CBA dust settles. It may sound nutz, but it doesn't appear that management has much interest in making a push this year.

Management seems to have chosen mediocrity.

Random thought......trying to juggle Eberle, Kessel, and Vrbata at my RW position on one of my fantasy hockey teams when they play on the same night is becoming a headache.....
- UnnamedSource

so trade one problem solved

Sweet, now if you're using grey water perfect!
- Beaver-Warrior

That wouldn't fly in suburban Chicago...inspectors frown on that sort of thing.

so trade one problem solved
- molly2522

Yes I've tried....but the offers have been terrible.....

is mike keanon around to help stan make a few trades

Yep...still waiting.
If the cap room isn't utilized, what was the point in trading Campbell? So Olesz could help the Icehogs STILL finish last in the A?

That's one reason I've suggested the Hawks should just be sellers at this point, stockpile more picks, shed more salary and make a big play in free agency after the CBA dust settles. It may sound nutz, but it doesn't appear that management has much interest in making a push this year.

Management seems to have chosen mediocrity.
- ArlingtonRob

Rob,

The point of trading Soupy wasn't to free up capspace for later moves, but to save money.

If Stan was a commodities trader...the Hawks would likely be in more capable hands and we'd probably all be In a better mood.
- Ogilthorpe2

Now that's funny...good one Ogi.