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RetiredGoalie
Joined: 03.01.2010

Feb 23 @ 9:31 PM ET
I'd rather him than Carter on the Hawks.
- andru2797



I'd agree with that.
pri$ey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Proud "Hawktard", NB
Joined: 05.17.2008

Feb 23 @ 9:32 PM ET
Why? He does nothing for the Hawks in my opinion. Hard to believe that Johnson and a pick were all that it took to get Carter. JJ said the Hawks made a fair offer, but if it wasn't better than that, then I'm not sure what Bowman is doing. I'm not broken hearted that they didn't get Carter, as I had concerns about his attitude, injuries and contract, but I'm beginning to wonder if the reason Bowman is unable to get a deal done is not because teams aren't willing to trade but more because he is overvaluing some of his players. There hasn't been a lot of deals, but in the ones that were made, I thought they were all pretty fair. I don't see one team fleecing another in a trade. Yeah, there might be some slight overpayment in some of these deals because it's a sellers market, but nothing that I thought was out of line. Still three days left, but I'm losing faith in Bowman being able to do anything to help this team this year.
- RetiredGoalie


Columbus obviously wanted a good dman for Carter, we couldn't afford that from the get-go.

We're already weak on D.. Why give another one up?

RetiredGoalie
Joined: 03.01.2010

Feb 23 @ 9:33 PM ET
Until realignment happens, they are still in our division. Higher price for us because of that?
- NewToHockey



Maybe.
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Feb 23 @ 9:33 PM ET
Why? He does nothing for the Hawks in my opinion. Hard to believe that Johnson and a pick were all that it took to get Carter. JJ said the Hawks made a fair offer, but if it wasn't better than that, then I'm not sure what Bowman is doing. I'm not broken hearted that they didn't get Carter, as I had concerns about his attitude, injuries and contract, but I'm beginning to wonder if the reason Bowman is unable to get a deal done is not because teams aren't willing to trade but more because he is overvaluing some of his players. There hasn't been a lot of deals, but in the ones that were made, I thought they were all pretty fair. I don't see one team fleecing another in a trade. Yeah, there might be some slight overpayment in some of these deals because it's a sellers market, but nothing that I thought was out of line. Still three days left, but I'm losing faith in Bowman being able to do anything to help this team this year.
- RetiredGoalie



If SJ gets Nash (and I hope they do before NYR does) ... watch out. Both the Kings and Sharks just got much better imo.
coldsteelonice
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.03.2011

Feb 23 @ 9:34 PM ET
Columbus obviously wanted a good dman for Carter, we couldn't afford that from the get-go.

We're already weak on D.. Why give another one up?

- pri$ey


Hammer + 1st < Johnson + 1st and I doubt the Hawks would do Hammer + 1st anyways.
RetiredGoalie
Joined: 03.01.2010

Feb 23 @ 9:35 PM ET
Columbus obviously wanted a good dman for Carter, we couldn't afford that from the get-go.

We're already weak on D.. Why give another one up?

- pri$ey


True, but I was thinking if the Hawks did get Carter, a d-man would be coming with him OR the Hawks would replace the d-man given up in a separate deal with another team.
RetiredGoalie
Joined: 03.01.2010

Feb 23 @ 9:35 PM ET
Columbus obviously wanted a good dman for Carter, we couldn't afford that from the get-go.

We're already weak on D.. Why give another one up?

- pri$ey


True, but I was thinking if the Hawks did get Carter, a d-man would be coming with him OR the Hawks would replace the d-man given up in a separate deal with another team.
pri$ey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Proud "Hawktard", NB
Joined: 05.17.2008

Feb 23 @ 9:35 PM ET
Hammer + 1st < Johnson + 1st and I doubt the Hawks would do Hammer + 1st anyways.
- coldsteelonice


Exactly my point.

I'm fine with them not doing that.
coldsteelonice
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.03.2011

Feb 23 @ 9:36 PM ET
Hammer + 1st < Johnson + 1st and I doubt the Hawks would do Hammer + 1st anyways.
- coldsteelonice


Would love Dustin Brown but LA wouldn't trade with us. I mentioned this in the other blog before the actual trade went down, but I'd like to see Clb get Jack Johnson, then the Hawks trade Hammer + for Johnson. Johnson is a lot better IMO.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Feb 23 @ 9:38 PM ET
Geez Kruger drop pass leads to break out the other way and then a double poster.

bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Feb 23 @ 9:50 PM ET
Frolik hustle board play and Hossa cleans it up!!
RetiredGoalie
Joined: 03.01.2010

Feb 23 @ 9:52 PM ET
Olsen looked VERY slow on a couple of those Star rushes
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Feb 23 @ 9:54 PM ET
Wings vs Nucks in another great game.....3-2 wings. Wings score 30 sec after Nucks tied it with 4 minutes left.

Will the wings ever lose again at home?!?!?
Dannyboy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 23 @ 9:55 PM ET
Since I am bored right now and based on the supposed interest the Hawks have with some players on the Lightning and Stars, wouldn't mind seeing this

Purcell
Thompson
Clark

for

Frolik
Bickell
Pirri
Lalonde

and

Souray
Burish

for

3rd round draft pick

Purcell-Toews-Kane
Sharp-Kruger-Hossa
Burish-Bolland-Stalberg
Mayers-Thompson-Hayes
Brunette

Keith-Seabrook
Hammer-Souray
Leddy-Clark
Lepisto
Olsen

I would be happy with a team constructed like this.
Glenman12
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake County, IL
Joined: 01.13.2010

Feb 23 @ 9:57 PM ET
theyu didnt score on that rush but Hossa is an f'n beast...
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Feb 23 @ 9:59 PM ET
Why would the stars trade Souray. They are only 5 pts behind the Sharks!?
hpk90
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: North Potomac, MD
Joined: 12.13.2011

Feb 23 @ 10:02 PM ET
Since I am bored right now and based on the supposed interest the Hawks have with some players on the Lightning and Stars, wouldn't mind seeing this

Purcell
Thompson
Clark

for

Frolik
Bickell
Pirri
Lalonde

and

Souray
Burish

for

3rd round draft pick

Purcell-Toews-Kane
Sharp-Kruger-Hossa
Burish-Bolland-Stalberg
Mayers-Thompson-Hayes
Brunette

Keith-Seabrook
Hammer-Souray
Leddy-Clark
Lepisto
Olsen

I would be happy with a team constructed like this.

- Dannyboy


I think pretty much everyone on this board would be happy with this...
yobwoc03
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Commit To The Indian, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Feb 23 @ 10:03 PM ET
That bouncing puck gets behind Crow 2 weeks ago.........must have found himself a slump buster.
Dannyboy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 23 @ 10:03 PM ET
Why would the stars trade Souray. They are only 5 pts behind the Sharks!?
- bogiedoc


Just basing that on Pricey's post about the Hawks and Bruins being interested in Souray. I know that doesn't mean he is available, but I don't really think the Stars are going to catch or pass the Sharks especially with Benn and Morrow hurting.
pri$ey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Proud "Hawktard", NB
Joined: 05.17.2008

Feb 23 @ 10:04 PM ET
Why would the stars trade Souray. They are only 5 pts behind the Sharks!?
- bogiedoc


Why would they trade Grossman? Why is being said by every major media outlet that Ott is available and maybe even Morrow?

The standings being close with this amount of time left has been proven over and again that it's all smoke and mirrors.. It's very, very rare that anyone 5-7 points out right now can make the playoffs.

Most people feel that if you're not in it by Christmas, you're in some serious trouble.
Dannyboy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 23 @ 10:04 PM ET
I think pretty much everyone on this board would be happy with this...
- hpk90


I don't think it is far fetched either. Like I said, just basing it on the interest the Hawks have been "reported" to have.
hpk90
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: North Potomac, MD
Joined: 12.13.2011

Feb 23 @ 10:07 PM ET
I don't think it is far fetched either. Like I said, just basing it on the interest the Hawks have been "reported" to have.
- Dannyboy


No it is not. Question is, when do Dallas and Tampa become sellers?
Walky
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IA
Joined: 04.28.2011

Feb 23 @ 10:10 PM ET
Since I am bored right now and based on the supposed interest the Hawks have with some players on the Lightning and Stars, wouldn't mind seeing this

Purcell
Thompson
Clark

for

Frolik
Bickell
Pirri
Lalonde

and

Souray
Burish

for

3rd round draft pick

Purcell-Toews-Kane
Sharp-Kruger-Hossa
Burish-Bolland-Stalberg
Mayers-Thompson-Hayes
Brunette

Keith-Seabrook
Hammer-Souray
Leddy-Clark
Lepisto
Olsen

I would be happy with a team constructed like this.

- Dannyboy


I think you need to pony up a little more in both of those trades. This is a crazy market and even campoli took a 2nd rounder last year. I think I'd be good with the outcome though.
Dannyboy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 23 @ 10:15 PM ET
No it is not. Question is, when do Dallas and Tampa become sellers?
- hpk90


In my opinion, I think they both are already, but they just haven't made a trade yet if that makes sense.

Dallas traded away Grossman for picks. Ott and Morrow are said to be available. I would think most of their roster is not untouchable.

Tampa traded Downie and then flipped Quincey for a 1st round draft pick. Also with Vinny out for a few weeks with the hand injury, I would tend to believe they are going to be sellers.
coldsteelonice
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.03.2011

Feb 23 @ 10:15 PM ET
I think you need to pony up a little more in both of those trades. This is a crazy market and even campoli took a 2nd rounder last year. I think I'd be good with the outcome though.
- Walky


You are adding 5 NHL roster palyers and only losing 2. That's too many. I know some may suggest just waiving Brunette or OD, but if you ever wanted a veteran free agent to sign in Chicago again, you cant really do that either. I like the players you identify, but probably only could do part of what you are proposing.
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