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jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 20 @ 10:20 AM ET
That was the stupidest thing I have seen. Yes, the fights were entertaining, but what's the point? Win the game, no need for the sideshow bullpoop
- Jsaquella

They are the kinda fights I hate... wait till someone throws a big border line hit than have a go.. I look at the Flyers vs Ottawa game for example..

There was a real subplot going in with the Havlat buttend on Recchi.. there were huge hits and a lot of animosity building up... then Brash destroys Rob Ray in a fight and that block head Chris Neil (i think) decided to sucker Brash... after that it was time to go.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Mar 20 @ 10:21 AM ET
Well, he willingly took on George Parros. He didn't win, but he didn't back down either.

- bmeltzer


I guess I just expect a guy that looks like him would be a tough SOB... I love what he does for this team, and I wouldnt change it, but just looking at him... I would think... That guy can throw them...
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 20 @ 10:22 AM ET
I agree the Flyers dropped the ball... It would have been better to just put Upshall on Waivers and not get Carcillo, then to give up a second with Upshall...
- RooNosHockey


Would have been better to just find another way to fit Giroux without losing a guy who was playing some solid hockey for the Flyers than to waste an asset
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Mar 20 @ 10:22 AM ET
Grossmann vs. Ethan Moreau (this was after a very long shift, BTW):

JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 20 @ 10:23 AM ET
Didn't see it. Was it staged fight off the opening face off?
- funmaster18

Blood was on the ice before the puck.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Mar 20 @ 10:23 AM ET
If it was Upshall for Carcillo straight up, I'd have no problem with the trade.
- Jsaquella


Carcillo had his moments, but he was too much of a loose canon. If Carcillo is a street thug, Rinaldo is like a trained assassin. Sneaky on the ice and out of nowhere catches you with a big hit. Carcillo was loud and attracted too much attention sometimes. At least when Rinaldo gets a penalty, he tends to get his money's worth. I also think Rinaldo has much better hands than Carcillo.

Would be great to see them go toe to toe sometime
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Mar 20 @ 10:24 AM ET
I guess I just expect a guy that looks like him would be a tough SOB... I love what he does for this team, and I wouldnt change it, but just looking at him... I would think... That guy can throw them...
- RooNosHockey


There isn't much fighting in Swedish hockey, unlike Canadian junior hockey. He had a few in the AHL before coming to the NHL. I think he's handled himself fine when he's had one.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Mar 20 @ 10:24 AM ET
Blood was on the ice before the puck.
- JoeRussomanno


Wow
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 20 @ 10:24 AM ET
Didn't see it. Was it staged fight off the opening face off?
- funmaster18


The last Devs-Rangers game in NJ, Tortorella started Rupp and Prust and there was a fight 3 seconds in. So last night, DeBoer started a line with Boulton and Janssens.

Tortorella flipped, and started a line with Rupp and Prust, centered by Stu Bickel, a tough defenseman. The gloves were off before the puck hit the ice.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 20 @ 10:25 AM ET
Didn't see it. Was it staged fight off the opening face off?
- funmaster18

3 fights.

torts was yelling at deboer, livid that he was starting 3 toughguys and matched with prust, rupp, bickel. after the game deboer said basically 'so he can come in our building and start his toughguys but we cant do it here? either he has a short memory or he's a hypocrite'
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 20 @ 10:26 AM ET
Carcillo had his moments, but he was too much of a loose canon. If Carcillo is a street thug, Rinaldo is like a trained assassin. Sneaky on the ice and out of nowhere catches you with a big hit. Carcillo was loud and attracted too much attention sometimes. At least when Rinaldo gets a penalty, he tends to get his money's worth. I also think Rinaldo has much better hands than Carcillo.

Would be great to see them go toe to toe sometime

- funmaster18


Carcillo had more talent than I gave him credit for, but he's still never been able to fins the line. Rinaldo works hard at toeing the line and for the most part hasn't hurt the team with bad penalties. His rep from the AHL and juniors has hurt him a bit, but if he keeps himself under control, he'll be a solid grinder
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Mar 20 @ 10:27 AM ET
The last Devs-Rangers game in NJ, Tortorella started Rupp and Prust and there was a fight 3 seconds in. So last night, DeBoer started a line with Boulton and Janssens.

Tortorella flipped, and started a line with Rupp and Prust, centered by Stu Bickel, a tough defenseman. The gloves were off before the puck hit the ice.

- Jsaquella


Sounds like tortsy is already coming unhinged
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 20 @ 10:27 AM ET
As for the whole Mezaros injury 1 we discussed it yesterday 2. He's pretty much done for the season 3. hopefully we got our injury quota out of the way.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 20 @ 10:28 AM ET
The last Devs-Rangers game in NJ, Tortorella started Rupp and Prust and there was a fight 3 seconds in. So last night, DeBoer started a line with Boulton and Janssens.

Tortorella flipped, and started a line with Rupp and Prust, centered by Stu Bickel, a tough defenseman. The gloves were off before the puck hit the ice.

- Jsaquella

Even though I liked him a little more after 24/7, I still despise Torts. He is such a whiny wiener.

EDIT:
Didnt know that would be edited, but it makes it much better ahahahahha
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Mar 20 @ 10:28 AM ET
3 fights.

torts was yelling at deboer, livid that he was starting 3 toughguys and matched with prust, rupp, bickel. after the game deboer said basically 'so he can come in our building and start his toughguys but we cant do it here? either he has a short memory or he's a hypocrite'

- Crimsoninja


Hate that damn Fonzy. Makes me almost want to play them in the first round so we can be the ones to shut him up.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 20 @ 10:29 AM ET
Sounds like tortsy is already coming unhinged
- funmaster18


The problem is that the Rangers followed the fights by dominating the game. The score was close, but the Rangers were the better team by a good margin.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 20 @ 10:29 AM ET
3 fights.

torts was yelling at deboer, livid that he was starting 3 toughguys and matched with prust, rupp, bickel. after the game deboer said basically 'so he can come in our building and start his toughguys but we cant do it here? either he has a short memory or he's a hypocrite'

- Crimsoninja

Really I'm not a big Tortorella fan. Yea he won a cup 8 years ago that's nice, yea his pos rangers team is in first place, so was Bruce Boudreau's team a couple times and IMO I think he's just got a big mouth.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Mar 20 @ 10:30 AM ET
Carcillo had more talent than I gave him credit for, but he's still never been able to fins the line. Rinaldo works hard at toeing the line and for the most part hasn't hurt the team with bad penalties. His rep from the AHL and juniors has hurt him a bit, but if he keeps himself under control, he'll be a solid grinder
- Jsaquella


Yes Rinaldo had a bad reputation, but IMO he's done a very good job showing he can be a good hockey player. He makes smart plays, knows his role, and hits extremely hard. Great guy for the playoffs.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 20 @ 10:30 AM ET
Well, I got to get to work, but one update:
Per Mike Morreale of NHL.com, Talbot and Lilja are skating today

And Kubina
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 20 @ 10:31 AM ET
Yes Rinaldo had a bad reputation, but IMO he's done a very good job showing he can be a good hockey player. He makes smart plays, knows his role, and hits extremely hard. Great guy for the playoffs.
- funmaster18

RInaldo is an upgrade over Carcillo for sure.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Mar 20 @ 10:32 AM ET
Well, I got to get to work, but one update:
Per Mike Morreale of NHL.com, Talbot and Lilja are skating today

And Kubina

- Jsaquella


JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 20 @ 10:32 AM ET
Well, I got to get to work, but one update:
Per Mike Morreale of NHL.com, Talbot and Lilja are skating today

- Jsaquella

Try not to install any boxes that make the screen turn green or lose sound in the middle of much anticipated TV episodes or sporting events like mine does all the time
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Mar 20 @ 10:32 AM ET
As for the whole Mezaros injury 1 we discussed it yesterday 2. He's pretty much done for the season 3. hopefully we got our injury quota out of the way.
- JoeRussomanno


As for number 2... I hope we last long enough he can come back

number 3... the devil always wants more blood...
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 20 @ 10:33 AM ET
Well, I got to get to work, but one update:
Per Mike Morreale of NHL.com, Talbot and Lilja are skating today

And Kubina

- Jsaquella

JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 20 @ 10:33 AM ET
As for number 2... I hope we last long enough he can come back

number 3... the devil always wants more blood...

- RooNosHockey

Uh its already been announced he's done for the year, I don't know what else to tell you.
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