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Humanist4Caps
Washington Capitals
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 12.02.2009

Mar 26 @ 2:14 PM ET
who are the most overrated players in the league today? While we're at it, feel free to talk about the most underrated players too.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Mar 27 @ 11:58 AM ET
Rick Nash is# 1 easily.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Mar 27 @ 12:03 PM ET
Rick Nash is# 1 easily.
- RogerRoeper

Sports Illustrated polled 161 NHL players asking them to name the most overrated player in the league and Phaneuf topped the list.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 27 @ 4:54 PM ET
Rick Nash is# 1 easily.
- RogerRoeper



sour grapes much?
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Mar 27 @ 8:28 PM ET


sour grapes much?

- Crimsoninja


Why would that be sour grapes? The media kisses this guy's ass non-stop and considers him a franchise player.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Mar 27 @ 8:29 PM ET
Sports Illustrated polled 161 NHL players asking them to name the most overrated player in the league and Phaneuf topped the list.
- Doppleganger


I'm aware. I don't agree with it. Phaneuf and Luongo get about as much crap as anyone.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Apr 5 @ 2:49 PM ET
http://bleacherreport.com...-in-the-nhl-today/page/11
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Apr 6 @ 10:20 AM ET
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2017941-ranking-the-10-most-overrated-stars-in-the-nhl-today/page/11
- Doppleganger


LOL. A guy who is crapped on so much is the most overrated? Dion doesn't deserve to be on the list. To be overrated, you must get compliments.

Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Apr 6 @ 2:39 PM ET
LOL. A guy who is crapped on so much is the most overrated? Dion doesn't deserve to be on the list. To be overrated, you must get compliments.
- RogerRoeper

He's made the top of that list now, for a few years. I imagine a lot of it has to do with the fact he plays in a high profile market, with extremely high expectations from both the media and fan-base, and he signs a huge retirement contract. He only has to underachieve a little bit to get labelled "overrated" under these circumstances.

Don't forget he seems to be on the ice for a lot of the worst goals against in a lot of critical games, that get rerun over and over again on the sport-networks.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Apr 12 @ 6:04 AM ET
He's made the top of that list now, for a few years. I imagine a lot of it has to do with the fact he plays in a high profile market, with extremely high expectations from both the media and fan-base, and he signs a huge retirement contract. He only has to underachieve a little bit to get labelled "overrated" under these circumstances.

Don't forget he seems to be on the ice for a lot of the worst goals against in a lot of critical games, that get rerun over and over again on the sport-networks.

- Doppleganger


He's been hung-out-to-dry. He needs help.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Apr 12 @ 9:33 AM ET
overrated - jack johnson, ryan kesler, dave bolland (by the leafs management, and tor media)
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Apr 12 @ 6:52 PM ET
overrated - jack johnson, ryan kesler, dave bolland (by the leafs management, and tor media)
- sensarmy_11


Bolland is not getting resigned so I'm not sure how they overrated him just for trading for him.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Apr 12 @ 6:55 PM ET
Bolland is not getting resigned so I'm not sure how they overrated him just for trading for him.
- RogerRoeper


Then you obviously haven't been listening to the way the media and coaches have talked about him.

I'm not talking about trading for him, I'm talking about how they say they say it would have been a completely different season if he didn't get hurt
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Apr 12 @ 11:04 PM ET
Then you obviously haven't been listening to the way the media and coaches have talked about him.

I'm not talking about trading for him, I'm talking about how they say they say it would have been a completely different season if he didn't get hurt

- sensarmy_11



Maybe because the team played it's best with him off to a career best start the first month of the season?

Do you not remember that far back?
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Apr 13 @ 6:55 AM ET
Maybe because the team played it's best with him off to a career best start the first month of the season?

Do you not remember that far back?

- RogerRoeper




Yeah, I'm sure an overrated 3rd line center would have made ALL the difference.

You should pay him his 5 mil and see how next year goes
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Apr 13 @ 10:33 AM ET
The point is, Bolland was off to the best start of his career and the Leafs played their best with him.

So the Leaf players saying that certainly aren't overrating him with that statement.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Apr 13 @ 11:35 AM ET


Yeah, I'm sure an overrated 3rd line center would have made ALL the difference.

You should pay him his 5 mil and see how next year goes

- sensarmy_11



They can't sign him, they have too many players signed to un-cap friendly high cost long term contracts, that have basically tied managements hands, unless they unload some of their younger players to make room for him.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Apr 13 @ 11:44 AM ET
They can't sign him, they have too many players signed to un-cap friendly high cost long term contracts, that have basically tied managements hands, unless they unload some of their younger players to make room for him.
- Doppleganger


It's more of a matter that they don't want him at the price he wants. He's not healthy.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Apr 18 @ 11:26 AM ET
Not to open a whole can of worms, but Chris Kunitz is pretty overrated in my opinion.
The Truth
Joined: 09.15.2005

Apr 21 @ 2:45 AM ET
kessel has to be in the discussion, he disappeared down the stretch when his team needed him, this was a man leaf fans said should be a hart finalist
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Apr 21 @ 8:13 AM ET
kessel has to be in the discussion, he disappeared down the stretch when his team needed him, this was a man leaf fans said should be a hart finalist
- The Truth


I think this is very wrong.

Play always gets tougher in the second half. Kessel plays without a #1 center and without a true #1 Dman. He does not have much support when other teams commit to shutting him down. Put Kessel on a top team with a good #1 center and D and he would be dynamite (eg., Chicago, Pittsburgh, Anahiem).
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Apr 21 @ 8:35 AM ET
I think this is very wrong.

Play always gets tougher in the second half. Kessel plays without a #1 center and without a true #1 Dman. He does not have much support when other teams commit to shutting him down. Put Kessel on a top team with a good #1 center and D and he would be dynamite (eg., Chicago, Pittsburgh, Anahiem).

- spatso



I agree, Phil is not the type of player to "carry" a team on his own. He is a finisher, and the whole team needs to execute in order to win games together.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Apr 21 @ 10:23 AM ET
kessel has to be in the discussion, he disappeared down the stretch when his team needed him, this was a man leaf fans said should be a hart finalist
- The Truth


With all the crap Kessel has gotten he's far from overrated. And I don't really see how he disappeared compared to everyone else. He's always come up big in the playoffs.
The Truth
Joined: 09.15.2005

Apr 21 @ 7:13 PM ET
With all the crap Kessel has gotten he's far from overrated. And I don't really see how he disappeared compared to everyone else. He's always come up big in the playoffs.
- RogerRoeper

he was a hart candidate at one point, but his last 20 games were not good
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Apr 22 @ 9:04 AM ET
he was a hart candidate at one point, but his last 20 games were not good
- The Truth


The guy was burned-out. Happened to the entire team.