https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLOjQcyA8uc

Cant believe I forgot about this one. Too bad McQuaid doesnt wear the Indian head

On a side note....

I saw on NHL network the sign that read:

Mike Smith Report Card

A+ for diving
F for manhood

I remember one of the guys on here going to the game was going to make that sign. Cracked me up when i saw it lol
- Wowo2282

You're welcome! I actually was the one who made that sign! I laughed when I saw it on NHL Tonight last night when I got home!

Who recommended that quote anyway? Sorry for stealing your thunder, but love the fact that it was broadcast for all to see! Hit the nail on the head perfectly, and the folks in that section loved it!

By your logic, Torres is then guilty of multiple murders, and would be classified a serial or mass murderer...which would mean he would get significantly more of a punishment than Keith's "single murder"
- anawrocki

I suppose Torres would likely be a repeat assaulter/ murderer to extend the analogy. So you are right he should be getting a harsher sentence which I did indicate. I wasn't really considering his previous indiscretions as being as severe as this one. I don't recall that he's done something this severe in the past.

regards.

son of a b!! that was my post!
- HajdukChicago

Sorry I stole your thunder, but pretty hilarious it was broadcast for all hockey fans to see!

52 is not the problem. In some ways playing Saad makes some sense if he can find open ice and finish, because then Kane has somewhere to put the puck instead of trying to do everything himself. 10, 81, 25 have not been finishing anything.
- John Jaeckel

but he isnt the solution either. i like what you say about Saad. We need goals. we need guys that can skate. I'm not saying he's the answer, but we are not winning the skating battle.

Every game has gone into overtime. Attrition has officially begun. The ability to put as many lines together that can contribute consistently is proving to be the better ways to approach games 4 thru ?. I'm not sure where 52 fits into this. He had 5 min of ice time yesterday. In a grueling overtime game where one of our fwds left the game he played 5 mins. His presence did NOTHING to deter any Yote from taking a run at any hawk. You know how I know this...BECAUSE HE WAS ON THE ICE WHEN TORRES RAN HOSSA. I dont blame him or care that he couldnt stop him nor that he couldnt get at him. But what good is a policeman/enforcer type in a league that has players that dont fear the repercussions of a policeman/enforcer type?

Frolik, bruno, and bollig have all scored in this series (who would've thought). so call it a scratch from here on...dont you want someone that might bring more to the table than toughness? I know we need toughness-but not at the cost of being unable to roll out the best lines possible. I wouldnt be totally surpirised to not see bollig or bissonette in either teams line up tomorrow.

That was not a great play by Hammer. Even going back to the Cup year, small Hawk d-men struggle with clears and try that little poke pass along the wall. Leddy . . . yeesh.

At that point of the game, I give Hammer and Crawford a bit of a pass, both were exhausted. Crawford less so. He has to stop that.
- John Jaeckel

Leddy is the biggest p_ssy i have ever watched play. If you watch him during the games. He will not go get the puck first. even if he's in the lead for the puck he always watching the player coming in behind him and lets him take the puck.. Then he tries to stick check them as they skate away with the puck.

Sure he moves the puck pretty good and passes ok.. but the kid need to find some balls.. i can see in pee wee being scare but in the NHL is unacceptable.. he's no next coming of keith thats for sure.

may be a poor or rich mans Marc Andre Bergeron.

You're welcome! I actually was the one who made that sign! I laughed when I saw it on NHL Tonight last night when I got home!

Who recommended that quote anyway? Sorry for stealing your thunder, but love the fact that it was broadcast for all to see! Hit the nail on the head perfectly, and the folks in that section loved it!
- nelli312

That would be me Was gonna be my sign for tomorrow. No worries

Leddy is the biggest p_ssy i have ever watched play. If you watch him during the games. He will not go get the puck first. even if he's in the lead for the puck he always watching the player coming in behind him and lets him take the puck.. Then he tries to stick check them as they skate away with the puck.

Sure he moves the puck pretty good and passes ok.. but the kid need to find some balls.. i can see in pee wee being scare but in the NHL is unacceptable.. he's no next coming of keith thats for sure.

may be a poor or rich mans Marc Andre Bergeron.
- wolverine19

i agree.. I see the skill, but not the heart.. he's young though. I think he needs to get laaid.

Sorry I stole your thunder, but pretty hilarious it was broadcast for all hockey fans to see!
- nelli312

No worries I have a few more in my head.

Im thinking:

HEY SHANNY! HERE ARE MY KEY POINTS:
YOU'RE WORTHLESS!

or (yes, I know its kinda political)

ARIZONA: WHERE REPUBLICANS LOVE THEIR LEAGUE CONTROLLED TEAM

For clarification I don't recall ANY Canuck going after Bolland with what passed for a legal but deadly hit. If I'm mistaken on that point then I stand corrected.

Regards.
- kaptaan

Oh really?

http://committedindians.c...-hunting-on-dave-bolland/

Couldnt find the video, but someone on here posted it like a month ago after the keith hit. He hit bolland in he head with his elbow jsut after he came back from a concussion.

Leddy is the biggest p_ssy i have ever watched play. If you watch him during the games. He will not go get the puck first. even if he's in the lead for the puck he always watching the player coming in behind him and lets him take the puck.. Then he tries to stick check them as they skate away with the puck.

Sure he moves the puck pretty good and passes ok.. but the kid need to find some balls.. i can see in pee wee being scare but in the NHL is unacceptable.. he's no next coming of keith thats for sure.

may be a poor or rich mans Marc Andre Bergeron.
- wolverine19

LMAO. Savvy is sooooooooo going to come after you!

Leddy really did have a terrible game last night and just as you said, he avoided all physical contact. Oduya had a rough game, too.

You could tell the D were getting gassed and after two previous OT games (and with Q relying heavily on 5 d-men) it was somewhat understandable. Somehow Q has to be able to roll 6 d-men or it's only gonna get worse.

I see everyone talking (at length) about suspensions in this thread, but no one is really thinking outside the box on how you could punish a team for a dirty play within the game...

What about adopting the soccer red card rule where a team loses a player for the entire match after such a play? I know that removing one player from the ice in hockey (6 players including the goalie) is much different than soccer (11), but don't you think that would get player's / coach's attention?

Essentially I'm saying that the offending team would only be allowed 4 skaters on the ice for the entire game, after such a hit.

Even if you had to implement some kind of video review for that type of penalty, wouldn't it be worth it in the long run?

I bet 85% of the hits you all are talking about don't happen if this rule is in place.

No worries I have a few more in my head.

Im thinking:

HEY SHANNY! HERE ARE MY KEY POINTS:
YOU'RE WORTHLESS!

or (yes, I know its kinda political)

ARIZONA: WHERE REPUBLICANS LOVE THEIR LEAGUE CONTROLLED TEAM
- HajdukChicago

I'd probably stay away from politics. I've searched for the highlight segment that had the sign but can't find it. Kathryn Tappan made mention of Blackhawks fans not happy with Mike Smith while showing the sign just prior to the game highlights. Very funny!

Now the outcome of the game, and what happened to Hossa was bullpoop!

Sorry I stole your thunder, but pretty hilarious it was broadcast for all hockey fans to see!
- nelli312

Where did you sit at... I was in 333 section

I see everyone talking (at length) about suspensions in this thread, but no one is really thinking outside the box on how you could punish a team for a dirty play within the game...

What about adopting the soccer red card rule where a team loses a player for the entire match after such a play? I know that removing one player from the ice in hockey (6 players including the goalie) is much different than soccer (11), but don't you think that would get player's / coach's attention?

Essentially I'm saying that the offending team would only be allowed 4 skaters on the ice for the entire game, after such a hit.

Even if you had to implement some kind of video review for that type of penalty, wouldn't it be worth it in the long run?

That's a little extreme, but I think a lot of people would be OK if the team's roster was one short for the duration of the suspension, ie they could only dress 19 payers instead of 20.

I bet 85% of the hits you all are talking about don't happen if this rule is in place.
- rrhawk11

Where did you sit at... I was in 333 section
- victorymc98

I'm in section 301, 4th row, but before the game, I took the sign down to the glass, and gave it to some folks there to display.

It was behind the Yotes net during warmups...

He can't carry the Canucks by himself. I think that the Vancouver "diving" team is done. Stick a fork in them.
- EKolb13

After last night and today, I am looking forward to relaxing and the enjoying the sight of the Canucks shaking hands tonight

I see everyone talking (at length) about suspensions in this thread, but no one is really thinking outside the box on how you could punish a team for a dirty play within the game...

What about adopting the soccer red card rule where a team loses a player for the entire match after such a play? I know that removing one player from the ice in hockey (6 players including the goalie) is much different than soccer (11), but don't you think that would get player's / coach's attention?

Essentially I'm saying that the offending team would only be allowed 4 skaters on the ice for the entire game, after such a hit.

Even if you had to implement some kind of video review for that type of penalty, wouldn't it be worth it in the long run?


I bet 85% of the hits you all are talking about don't happen if this rule is in place.
- rrhawk11

That's a little extreme, but I think a lot of people would be OK if the team's roster was one short for the duration of the suspension, ie they could only dress 19 payers instead of 20.

5 or 6 games is the amount Torres should miss.

I see everyone talking (at length) about suspensions in this thread, but no one is really thinking outside the box on how you could punish a team for a dirty play within the game...

What about adopting the soccer red card rule where a team loses a player for the entire match after such a play? I know that removing one player from the ice in hockey (6 players including the goalie) is much different than soccer (11), but don't you think that would get player's / coach's attention?

Essentially I'm saying that the offending team would only be allowed 4 skaters on the ice for the entire game, after such a hit.

Even if you had to implement some kind of video review for that type of penalty, wouldn't it be worth it in the long run?

I bet 85% of the hits you all are talking about don't happen if this rule is in place.
- rrhawk11

Can't do that, IMO - changes the game too much, puts too much of a benefit on the offended team.

Also, many acts that wind up a suspension aren't caught during the game - e.g., Torres last nite.

Better, if there is a suspension, team can't replace him on the skating roster - they have to skate only 17 players instead of 18.

LMAO. Savvy is sooooooooo going to come after you!

Leddy really did have a terrible game last night and just as you said, he avoided all physical contact. Oduya had a rough game, too.

You could tell the D were getting gassed and after two previous OT games (and with Q relying heavily on 5 d-men) it was somewhat understandable. Somehow Q has to be able to roll 6 d-men or it's only gonna get worse.
- flahawkfan

Uh uh, not worth the time to type 'em out.

I've posted a few comments about Leddy's game already, I'll leave it at that. Only 1 D man had a good game, that was #7. We don't score the 1st goal without Leddy's nice pass to Kane off the draw. Was even on the night and had a rough 3rd. Going with a 5 D rotation is a recipe for disaster, especially when a game goes to OT and you have 2 guys (2 and 7) that already have huge minutes.

I see everyone talking (at length) about suspensions in this thread, but no one is really thinking outside the box on how you could punish a team for a dirty play within the game...

What about adopting the soccer red card rule where a team loses a player for the entire match after such a play? I know that removing one player from the ice in hockey (6 players including the goalie) is much different than soccer (11), but don't you think that would get player's / coach's attention?

Even if you had to implement some kind of video review for that type of penalty, wouldn't it be worth it in the long run?

I bet 85% of the hits you all are talking about don't happen if this rule is in place.
- rrhawk11

Somehow I think the game of hockey would really suck if this rule were instated. It just wouldn't work here.

I think having a third party evaluating head shots and handing out suspensions would be a step in the right direction. It should be someone that has no direct ties to the NHL or the NHLPA. Both of those parties can agree on wh the third party is.

Also, having a set ammount of games per offense could go a long way too. For example, giving out 5 games for the first offense, 10 games for the second offense, 20 games for the third offense, and multiply that number by 2 for each subsequent offense, I think could go a long way to deter head shots. Whether or not the hit is intended has to go too. If it's a hit to the head, intended or not, it needs to be an automatic suspension.

Any head shot, even if a penalty is called or not, should be reviewed by the third party. If a player hits someone in the head, and the refs miss it, the third party shouldn't. I think that will also deter players from leveling hits to the head.

Can we once and for all... end the this whole notion that other teams don't cheap shot when there are "enforcers" in the lineup. It's just nonsense. Most every play that has ended up in suspension, has happened with a tough player in the lineup on the other side. These players could care less...

No, it's common sense. If you want to play like a 3rd D-man, you get treated like one, don't want to take the risk, stay in the crease. Go to no touch icing, and make goalies outside their crease responsible for their own safety, and both the need for, and frequency with which goalies choose to play the puck will be drastically reduced, as will goaltender injures.
- Ogilthorpe2

Ogi...I tend to agree with you. It would be interesting to see this implemented.

Wasn't there a play several years ago where a goalie went to play a puck along the boards near the circle to prevent an odd man opportunity. Both the forward and the goalie went flying at contact. Very dramatic play, no one was hurt, no penalty was assessed.

I think it was in Montreal.

Too small on D. Average goaltending. That is what's happening.

One thing, when you've been around for a while, you get some perspective. Hawk fans love to decry Huet as the worst goalie in history. He wasn't. Statistically, in terms of size and stylistically, he was very similar to . . . Corey Crawford.

Crawford is not as great as some like to think. We saw it again last night. He gives up too many soft goals.

DBTH, see it for what it is. Hawks need an upgrade in net and more size on D or we will see more of the same next year, with or without the great Brandon Saad.
- John Jaeckel

Agree, but does SB agree with us?