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Lido_Shuffle
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.10.2012

Apr 18 @ 9:43 PM ET
Mike Smith: Your Delta Chi name is Flounder.

molly2522
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: long beach, IN
Joined: 07.13.2011

Apr 18 @ 9:48 PM ET
The day i see coach or GM stand up and say our guy was wrong...we don't want that type of play etc....with the same outrage they demonstrate when something happens to one of their guys...is the day you might start seeing end to this.

the missing element here is team accountability

- bogiedoc


i agree
MartiniMan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Santa Fe, NM
Joined: 10.01.2006

Apr 18 @ 9:51 PM ET
The day i see coach or GM stand up and say our guy was wrong...we don't want that type of play etc....with the same outrage they demonstrate when something happens to one of their guys...is the day you might start seeing end to this.

the missing element here is team accountability

- bogiedoc


I think Pittsburgh pretty much did that after that last ridiculous elbow Cooke threw that got him the 20-game suspension, or whatever it was.
eburgio
Location: SF, CA
Joined: 07.18.2011

Apr 18 @ 9:59 PM ET
I was going to read through 33 pages worth of posts to make sure this hasn't been mentioned already, but I don't have that kind of time.

Bob McKenzie tweeted that a 'late' hit is considered .5 seconds after a player is no longer control of the puck. In last year's SC Finals, Aaron Rome laid out Nathan Horton and it was .83 seconds after Horton passed. Last night was .87 seconds. And at the time everyone was super pissed about Rome's hit. Regardless which is worse, it's scary. (Not that anyone is debating whether or not it was a late hit, but just giving the data to support it)

Someone earlier posted something about players policing themselves. I wonder if this stuff would stop (or reduce significantly) if a Shane Doan said 'you know, the Torres hit was a nasty hit and we shouldn't have it'. But the problem is, these guys are all exacting revenge from earlier hits, so it's always ok. Eye for an eye? Thornton concussed Toews, Keith elbows Sedin, Doan clips Benn, Torres takes out Hossa. It's like it's a never-ending baton exchange of hits. At this point, it's all on the players. Nothing Shanahan can do, that ship has sailed. And what measure of revenge brings Hossa back? Time to sack up and win a couple games for 81. Torres is a giant piece of crap, but that's what keeps him employed (sadly).
eburgio
Location: SF, CA
Joined: 07.18.2011

Apr 18 @ 9:59 PM ET
I was going to read through 33 pages worth of posts to make sure this hasn't been mentioned already, but I don't have that kind of time.

Bob McKenzie tweeted that a 'late' hit is considered .5 seconds after a player is no longer control of the puck. In last year's SC Finals, Aaron Rome laid out Nathan Horton and it was .83 seconds after Horton passed. Last night was .87 seconds. And at the time everyone was super pissed about Rome's hit. Regardless which is worse, it's scary. (Not that anyone is debating whether or not it was a late hit, but just giving the data to support it)

Someone earlier posted something about players policing themselves. I wonder if this stuff would stop (or reduce significantly) if a Shane Doan said 'you know, the Torres hit was a nasty hit and we shouldn't have it'. But the problem is, these guys are all exacting revenge from earlier hits, so it's always ok. Eye for an eye? Thornton concussed Toews, Keith elbows Sedin, Doan clips Benn, Torres takes out Hossa. It's like it's a never-ending baton exchange of hits. At this point, it's all on the players. Nothing Shanahan can do, that ship has sailed. And what measure of revenge brings Hossa back? Time to sack up and win a couple games for 81. Torres is a giant piece of crap, but that's what keeps him employed (sadly).
grinder10
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Joined: 04.04.2009

Apr 18 @ 10:04 PM ET
No , Im saying that Sedin got concussed because he tried to take Keith out 6 minutes earlier. Just why he did it , not better or worse.
Torres threw 2 boarder line checks before the Hossa hit , He was playing reckless and took out a super star WITH NO PENALTY called.

- mrpaulish


Torres had been running around head hunting throughout much of this series -- just failed to land the knockout blow he was looking for ... until he got a good bead on Hossa. Any organization that employs that pile of dung knows exactly what he brings--attrition to the opposing team and not likely within the rules. This includes Tippett...he's quickly approaching dirtbag status in my eyes.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Apr 18 @ 10:07 PM ET
I think Pittsburgh pretty much did that after that last ridiculous elbow Cooke threw that got him the 20-game suspension, or whatever it was.
- MartiniMan

You are correct...they told him the preverbial "shape -up or we ship you out"...

And Cooke changed his act and had a real good year! More of that will gone a long way toward cleaning this sh!!!tt up.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Apr 18 @ 10:07 PM ET
I decided on a sign for tomorrow night:

HEY BETTMAN, HOW DID YOU LIKE YOUR UP CLOSE VIEW OF SHANAHAN'S NHL?

or

HEY BETTMAN, HOW DID YOU LIKE YOUR UP CLOSE VIEW OF SHANAHAN'S JOB PERFORMANCE?

- HajdukChicago


How about "Shanahan, where quality is job #1!"
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Apr 18 @ 10:09 PM ET
I was going to read through 33 pages worth of posts to make sure this hasn't been mentioned already, but I don't have that kind of time.

Bob McKenzie tweeted that a 'late' hit is considered .5 seconds after a player is no longer control of the puck. In last year's SC Finals, Aaron Rome laid out Nathan Horton and it was .83 seconds after Horton passed. Last night was .87 seconds. And at the time everyone was super pissed about Rome's hit. Regardless which is worse, it's scary. (Not that anyone is debating whether or not it was a late hit, but just giving the data to support it)

Someone earlier posted something about players policing themselves. I wonder if this stuff would stop (or reduce significantly) if a Shane Doan said 'you know, the Torres hit was a nasty hit and we shouldn't have it'. But the problem is, these guys are all exacting revenge from earlier hits, so it's always ok. Eye for an eye? Thornton concussed Toews, Keith elbows Sedin, Doan clips Benn, Torres takes out Hossa. It's like it's a never-ending baton exchange of hits. At this point, it's all on the players. Nothing Shanahan can do, that ship has sailed. And what measure of revenge brings Hossa back? Time to sack up and win a couple games for 81. Torres is a giant piece of crap, but that's what keeps him employed (sadly).

- eburgio


I know it was mentioned in last night's thread, but I don't recall seeing anyone posting it today.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Apr 18 @ 10:12 PM ET
I was going to read through 33 pages worth of posts to make sure this hasn't been mentioned already, but I don't have that kind of time.

Bob McKenzie tweeted that a 'late' hit is considered .5 seconds after a player is no longer control of the puck. In last year's SC Finals, Aaron Rome laid out Nathan Horton and it was .83 seconds after Horton passed. Last night was .87 seconds. And at the time everyone was super pissed about Rome's hit. Regardless which is worse, it's scary. (Not that anyone is debating whether or not it was a late hit, but just giving the data to support it)

Someone earlier posted something about players policing themselves. I wonder if this stuff would stop (or reduce significantly) if a Shane Doan said 'you know, the Torres hit was a nasty hit and we shouldn't have it'. But the problem is, these guys are all exacting revenge from earlier hits, so it's always ok. Eye for an eye? Thornton concussed Toews, Keith elbows Sedin, Doan clips Benn, Torres takes out Hossa. It's like it's a never-ending baton exchange of hits. At this point, it's all on the players. Nothing Shanahan can do, that ship has sailed. And what measure of revenge brings Hossa back? Time to sack up and win a couple games for 81. Torres is a giant piece of crap, but that's what keeps him employed (sadly).

- eburgio


Primarily these players care about 2 things: $$$ and playing time. I like what the refs did in the Pens/Flyers game tonight. Called it tight...alot of penalties and started tossing guys for after whistle poop that typically let go when the game was over! 3 flyers tossed and Cooke. Start kicking them out regularly. This hurts them and their team!
mvp0207
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Elk Grove , IL
Joined: 01.04.2011

Apr 18 @ 10:17 PM ET
Take note guys pens down Martin Adams Asham and a 40+ goal Neal and they dominate. Lets rally around Big Hoss and get a win tomorrow.
Anaarkey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Plainfield, IL
Joined: 01.25.2010

Apr 18 @ 10:17 PM ET
Here's Tippet defending the hit on hossa

"click click click click"

http://coyotes.nhl.com/cl...yer.htm?pid=335&iid=39158

"Don't think there was any malicious intent"

"Caught him right in the chest"

- Wowo2282


He is a hypocrit....Shaw's hit is "exactly what the league is trying to eliminate" according to Tippet...but Torres had no intent and hit him right in the chest.....yeah right.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Apr 18 @ 10:30 PM ET
He is a hypocrit....Shaw's hit is "exactly what the league is trying to eliminate" according to Tippet...but Torres had no intent and hit him right in the chest.....yeah right.
- Anaarkey


No question.....better off keeping his big double talking mouth shut.

Man I would luv to see the hawks rally and bury him and his team and send them packing!!
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Apr 18 @ 10:34 PM ET
Canucks fate is INEVITABLE


- philco28


Is this the graphic we're using for the Canucks "sweep" party after the game tonight?

If it is, you've outdone yourself.
mvp0207
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Elk Grove , IL
Joined: 01.04.2011

Apr 18 @ 10:35 PM ET
LETS GO KINGS.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Apr 18 @ 10:36 PM ET
Is this the graphic we're using for the Canucks "sweep" party after the game tonight?

If it is, you've outdone yourself.

- EKolb13


Where's Mickey/ the Apprentice?
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Apr 18 @ 10:38 PM ET
LETS GO KINGS.
- mvp0207


Hell yeah!
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Apr 18 @ 10:38 PM ET
Where's Mickey/ the Apprentice?
- StLBravesFan


I dunno. I've never seen it.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Apr 18 @ 10:40 PM ET
Take note guys pens down Martin Adams Asham and a 40+ goal Neal and they dominate. Lets rally around Big Hoss and get a win tomorrow.
- mvp0207


Flyers defensively have been every bit as bad as the Pens. They did not show up and decided to rest on their 3-0 lead. Nice to have starting 7 ml goalie with 5.23 GA and be up 3-1! Bryz 5 hole is actually a 10 hole! He looks terrible!!

>>Lets rally around Big Hoss and get a win tomorrow<<

EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Apr 18 @ 10:40 PM ET
I hope the have downtown Van barricaded you know Just in Case
- mvp0207


Watch it. Moderators have been banning people over mention of the "R" word and anything related to it.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Apr 18 @ 10:40 PM ET
Flyers defensively have been every bit as bad as the Pens. They did not show up and decided to rest on their 3-0 lead. Nice to have starting 7 ml goalie with 5.23 GA and be up 3-1! Bryz 5 hole is actually a 10 hole! He looks terrible!!

>>Lets rally around Big Hoss and get a win tomorrow<<


- bogiedoc


I can dig it!

The Hawks aren't out of it yet!
mvp0207
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Elk Grove , IL
Joined: 01.04.2011

Apr 18 @ 10:41 PM ET
Watch it. Moderators have been banning people over mention of the "R" word and anything related to it.
- EKolb13


Yea I had best delete it.
mvp0207
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Elk Grove , IL
Joined: 01.04.2011

Apr 18 @ 10:42 PM ET
Watch it. Moderators have been banning people over mention of the "R" word and anything related to it.
- EKolb13


In Hawk's best voice "HE GONE"
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Apr 18 @ 10:42 PM ET
LETS GO KINGS.
- mvp0207



After the 24 hours we just had.....seeing the great Presdients Trophy nucks ripped 4 zip and out would a long way toward my mood heading north once again!!
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Apr 18 @ 10:43 PM ET
Yea I had best delete it.
- mvp0207


Hey, that's up to you. Just trying to watch your back, that's all.
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